Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.12a Non-Patreon] [Vénus Noire]

[Rayza12]

https://f95zone.to/threads/seeds-of-chaos-v0-2-45-venus-noire.26/post-1909977

thank you, but i dont see how this helps ?? or did i read the wrong answer ? please quote it, thank you.

this one

 

[Rein]

Hold up, there’s something I wanted to hamper on.

And lets add, that writing dirty cheap.

You know what? This is the kind of philosophy that brought us GoT Season 8.

Writing is not easy. It takes time. It takes effort. Dare I say, a bit of talent as well. It’s not just something you can do *well* without practice. And fucking hell, this is not something you should treat like filler that connects one sexy CG to another.

Because that’s what literally happened to GoT. Things like witty dialogue, strong characterization, character consistency – all of these things took a back seat, to make room for another “wow” moment. Writing stopped being a thing that carried the show, and started being a tool that connected one predetermined set of impressive visuals to another.

I don’t work on exposure. And even though I do take pride in my work, it can be a fucking headache:
- Every character has to be unique, with their own unique set of motivations, personality, and – ideally – different speech patterns.
- Events have to keep a good pace, with sex events evenly spread between dialogue segments (If possible).
- A balance must be achieved between player choices (to engage the player) and not creating a multistate nightmare that is impossible to manage.
- Dialogue should be witty, or at the very least passable.
- Characters must be kept consistent between multiple writers, who each have their unique style of writing.
- Character events must follow predetermined arcs, and said arcs must be created if none exist.

All of this is not just something you can conjure with a snap of your fingers. It takes planning, thought, and worse of all – time, time, time. Hours have been put into analyzing Rastedel and every branch of it, making sure each provides a satisfying conclusion.

If somebody thinks writing is easy and cheap, I encourage them to endeavor on their own, make a career of it. Who knows, maybe they’re the next fucking Brandon Sanderson.

 

[Hekzow]

This is the kind of philosophy that brought us GoT Season 8.

Remember the great movies made during the writers strike?

 

[diebesgrab]

...Can I have a wooden mouse?

You sure you wouldn't rather have a wooden wolf?

 

[TheSexinati]

Writing is not easy. It takes time. It takes effort. Dare I say, a bit of talent as well. It’s not just something you can do *well* without practice. And fucking hell, this is not something you should treat like filler that connects one sexy CG to another.

Fuckin' A.

Though you forgot one of the most important things.

Wine. Two or three glasses, Or mead, Or Whiskey, Or Gin. Once some of those go in me, my inhibitions drop and the orc cocks and elf titties plop right out of the page.

Without them, I find myself punching myself in the head looking at empty Google Doc pages.

 

[diebesgrab]

Remember the great movies made during the writers strike?
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Hey, hey, that's not fair. Transformers and Wolverine movies sucked just as much after the writers strike was over.

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[Hekzow]

You sure you wouldn't rather have a wooden wolf?

I assume Mouse as in the character from Jessica's Curse.

 

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Fuckin' A.

Though you forgot one of the most important things.

Wine. Two or three glasses, Or mead, Or Whiskey, Or Gin. Once some of those go in me, my inhibitions drop and the orc cocks and elf titties plop right out of the page.

Without them, I find myself punching myself in the head looking at empty Google Doc pages.

Lucky. When I try that trick, I end up with five paragraphs of meandering introspection after every sentence in a conversation instead of three, without any naked people or plot progression at all.

...I really need to find some main characters who are willing to speak without thinking.

 

[Tydeusv]

Fuckin' A.

Though you forgot one of the most important things.

Wine. Two or three glasses, Or mead, Or Whiskey, Or Gin. Once some of those go in me, my inhibitions drop and the orc cocks and elf titties plop right out of the page.

Gin. Always gin.

 

[diebesgrab]

Personally, I find the hardest part of writing smut is that it's almost impossible to write something convincingly smutty if I'm not turned on, but it's much harder to write something good if I am.

 

[T51bwinterized]

Hey, hey, that's not fair. Transformers and Wolverine movies sucked just as much after the writers strike was over.

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Dragonball Evolution.
Fun? Sure.
Well-written? Lol.

I assume Mouse as in the character from Jessica's Curse.

Honestly, I just think that having random wooden sculptures is fun. I don't know if Arioch will approve, but I for one am in favor of allowing people to donate in novelty wooden handcrafts. XD

 

[TheSexinati]

I assume Mouse as in the character from Jessica's Curse.

You do me too much credit.

Personally, I find the hardest part of writing smut is that it's almost impossible to write something convincingly smutty if I'm not turned on, but it's much harder to write something good if I am.

I personally find that I have to abstain for several days before I can write 'smut'. Otherwise, I just write novice-grade fantasy stories with sieges and battles and killing and stuff. Your standard fare story, all told.

Which is not surprising, I can scarcely go two days without jacking it.

You sure you wouldn't rather have a wooden wolf?

Or if that is not up anybodies alley, I have a sword and serpent relief.

It's actually my first 'proper' work from two-three years ago, and not the practice stuff from when I was screwing around with small figurines from thirteen years ago when I was a kid. I'm a fan of rougher looking pieces so I left the chisel marks in the background.

Edit: Oh yeah, the wood is Poplar. It's a decent beginner wood, fairly easy to carve and doesn't like to split very much.

Honestly, I just think that having random wooden sculptures is fun. I don't know if Arioch will approve, but I for one am in favor of allowing people to donate in novelty wooden handcrafts. XD

Hey now, I don't want anybody to take a beating from their Corporate overlords. Once I sell some stuff to finance my Re-enactment gear, I'll totally become a patreon supporter.

 

[prodigy]

Hold up, there’s something I wanted to hamper on.

You know what? This is the kind of philosophy that brought us GoT Season 8.

Writing is not easy. It takes time. It takes effort. Dare I say, a bit of talent as well. It’s not just something you can do *well* without practice. And fucking hell, this is not something you should treat like filler that connects one sexy CG to another.

Because that’s what literally happened to GoT. Things like witty dialogue, strong characterization, character consistency – all of these things took a back seat, to make room for another “wow” moment. Writing stopped being a thing that carried the show, and started being a tool that connected one predetermined set of impressive visuals to another.

I don’t work on exposure. And even though I do take pride in my work, it can be a fucking headache:
- Every character has to be unique, with their own unique set of motivations, personality, and – ideally – different speech patterns.
- Events have to keep a good pace, with sex events evenly spread between dialogue segments (If possible).
- A balance must be achieved between player choices (to engage the player) and not creating a multistate nightmare that is impossible to manage.
- Dialogue should be witty, or at the very least passable.
- Characters must be kept consistent between multiple writers, who each have their unique style of writing.
- Character events must follow predetermined arcs, and said arcs must be created if none exist.

All of this is not just something you can conjure with a snap of your fingers. It takes planning, thought, and worse of all – time, time, time. Hours have been put into analyzing Rastedel and every branch of it, making sure each provides a satisfying conclusion.

If somebody thinks writing is easy and cheap, I encourage them to endeavor on their own, make a career of it. Who knows, maybe they’re the next fucking Brandon Sanderson.

All I meant to say that writing/copywriting is dirty cheap price wise. It is not any kind of philosophy.

 

[Rein]

It is not any kind of philosophy.

 

[T51bwinterized]

All I meant to say that writing/copywriting is dirty cheap price wise. It is not any kind of philosophy.

How much do you think writing costs?

 

[prodigy]

How much do you think writing costs?

For ghostwriting?
Around 5 to 11 euro for 1000 characters, 60e for 8h work. In my country ofc.

 

[T51bwinterized]

Yeah, that's actually extremely low.

 

[TheSexinati]

How much do you think writing costs?

I know that from certain authors... I can buy some really fucked up shit for 12$ USD for a thousand words...

And furry authors sell fucked up shit at around $12-15 USD per 1000 words... soooooo...

I would guess somewhere around $9-10 USD for a thousand words, from a more-or-less not-as-fucked-up author. I mean, you don't write the most fucked up shit, so your pay would probably be lower...

Now, If you and the team wrote more furry stuff, you could probably jack up your prices. They'll pay a lot of money for almost anything, just so long as it has fur on it!

I know not where the Furry Fandom acquires it's money (Probably world domination), but you could easily expect $20 USD per thousand words from that crowd.

But then you would end up with Seeds of Furries.

Edit: In short. Write more Greyhide!

 

[T51bwinterized]

I know that from certain authors... I can buy some really fucked up shit for 12$ USD for a thousand words...

And furry authors sell fucked up shit at around $12-15 USD per 1000 words... soooooo...

I would guess somewhere around $9-10 USD for a thousand words, from a more-or-less not-as-fucked-up author. I mean, you don't write the most fucked up shit, so your pay would probably be lower...

Now, If you and the team wrote more furry stuff, you could probably jack up your prices. They'll pay a lot of money for almost anything, just so long as it has fur on it!

I know not where the Furry Fandom acquires it's money (Probably world domination), but you could easily expect $20 USD per thousand words from that crowd.

But then you would end up with Seeds of Furries.

Edit: In short. Write more Greyhide!

Still on the low end. An entry level writing position in H-games is often placed around 2 Cents a word or $20 for 1000 words, so right where you placed the furry prices. Few games with actual meaningful writing get lower rates.

Entry level.

 

[TheSexinati]

Still on the low end. An entry level writing position in H-games is often placed around 2 Cents a word or $20 for 1000 words, so right where you placed the furry prices. Few games with actual meaningful writing get lower rates.

Entry level.

Hmmmm...

I'm gonna go and take creative writing classes now. There's a Future in it!

And if that fails... I guess I could get into drugs. Then I can write my memoirs about my experiences and make a best seller.