Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.12a Non-Patreon] [Vénus Noire]

[Nym85]

I swear if some straight guys had their way bi and gays would have no games to fap to .

It's called privilege. Those who have it rarely realize it.

 

[zeuswargrave]

Do you know the event name?

The challenge

 

[DownTheDrain]

I'm bisexual and of the top of my head I have this. Spacecorps, and to a lesser extent Roundscape as good games with a lot of content for both. Otherwise it's straight or straight games with a throwaway scene with a trans girl, gays and lesbians have it worse. I get where you're coming from but straight guys have most of the site can't you just let some games give us fap scenes without asking for removal or less just once ? We need to wank of as well.

Shouldn't you have all those straight games as well then if you're bisexual?
Unless the definition of the word changed dramatically since I last checked bisexuals should have the least issues with lack of content for a certain sexual orientation.

On a related note, every time I check the latest uploads it seems there's a new gay furry title around, so there's definitely more than you listed.

 

[Nym85]

On a related note, every time I check the latest uploads it seems there's a new gay furry title around, so there's definitely more than you listed.

I think there is a disproportionate amount of furry titles in general largely because it's not like furries have that many options when it comes to porn (there are some TERRIFYING porn scenes with people in fursuits and furry makeup out there but that's it I guess)

 

[DownTheDrain]

I think there is a disproportionate amount of furry titles in general largely because it's not like furries have that many options when it comes to porn (there are some TERRIFYING porn scenes with people in fursuits and furry makeup out there but that's it I guess)

Fair point.
Maybe it's just confirmation bias on my part but a large percentage of furry games and art also seem to be mostly aimed at gay and bi audiences.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

I swear if some straight guys had their way bi and gays would have no games to fap to .

I think you're so used to been that anything not straight feels like it's actively taking stuff away rather than a game that just has both and was always intented to. Then ironically literally want or ask for scenes to be taken away from bi and gay people. There's very few futa scenes for example but you notice them as been focused on because they're usually not there at all. It happens with every game that has both, you get some (not all) straight people complain the game has stuff that's not solely for them and it's too much. It feels like any gay, bi or futa stuff is "too much" . Rather than focus on the stuff that IS for them they focus on what others got and feel they somehow lost something. Like this game has more straight scenes than a lot of games get scenes full stop and still gets complaints if you get where I'm coming from.

I'm bisexual and of the top of my head I have this. Spacecorps, and to a lesser extent Roundscape as good games with a lot of content for both. Otherwise it's straight or straight games with a throwaway scene with a trans girl, gays and lesbians have it worse. I get where you're coming from but straight guys have most of the site can't you just let some games give us fap scenes without asking for removal or less just once ? We need to wank of as well.

Don't worry developers already said time and again they won't cut content because someone is going "eww".

 

[Nym85]

Fair point.
Maybe it's just confirmation bias on my part but a large percentage of furry games and art also seem to be mostly aimed at gay and bi audiences.

Honestly I'm gay so I only check things with gay content and there are furry stuff everywhere.
The CoC/TiTs team do a ton of straight and futa (well mainly futa, they love them futas over there) furry content.

 

[360 Danny DeVitos Later]

Shouldn't you have all those straight games as well then if you're bisexual?
Unless the definition of the word changed dramatically since I last checked bisexuals should have the least issues with lack of content for a certain sexual orientation.

On a related note, every time I check the latest uploads it seems there's a new gay furry title around, so there's definitely more than you listed.

Games with both. There's very few games that have scenes for both. Gays and lesbians have it worse but there's sod all games aimed at bisexuals. Kinda why Seeds of Chaos is liked by bisexuals Rowan can be bi...

There is also nowhere near as many gay furry games as you seem to think. Filter updates by gay and you get 19 pages out of 233, even less if you add furry 5 pages (5 pages filtered for gay and vaginal sex as well). There's 5 out of 233 yet you feel there's always a new one? Could it be updates to them.

 

[Nym85]

Games with both. There's very few games that have scenes for both. Gays and lesbians have it worse but there's sod all games aimed at bisexuals. Kinda why Seeds of Chaos is liked by bisexuals Rowan can be bi...

There is also nowhere near as many gay furry games as you seem to think. Filter updates by gay and you get 19 pages out of 233, even less if you add furry 5 pages (5 pages filtered for gay and vaginal sex as well). There's 5 out of 233 yet you feel there's always a new one? Could it be updates to them.

And let's not talk about how many erotic games tagged gay or male/male are about feminization with some outright using straight sex pics.

But games with bi threesomes are probably the rarest of them all

 

[Rein]

Quick question: NTR avoidable or not?

The game will ask you if you want to disable you during the prologue. And even if you keep it enabled, the NTR remains avoidable - all of Alexia's sex scenes happen through player dialogue choices.

To be honest, if the game keeps progressing like this, i think the chances of the devs getting burnt out and/or rushing to the end are higher than seeing the complete product they're planning to make.

Obligatory

 

[DownTheDrain]

Games with both. There's very few games that have scenes for both. Gays and lesbians have it worse but there's sod all games aimed at bisexuals. Kinda why Seeds of Chaos is liked by bisexuals Rowan can be bi...

Ok, so you're a bisexual (dude I assume) but you need to have both straight and gay scenes in the same game to enjoy it?

That's kind of setting yourself up for disappointment. I have a couple of different fetishes that I really like but I don't expect every game to cover all of them for me to have a good time.

 

[Cervixpunch]

Ok, so you're a bisexual (dude I assume) but you need to have both straight and gay scenes in the same game to enjoy it?

That's kind of setting yourself up for disappointment. I have a couple of different fetishes that I really like but I don't expect every game to cover all of them for me to have a good time.

Kinda think you're missing their point mate. Bisexuals like both so if a game has both they're going to like it so when people complain because it's not all women that affects them just as much and is going to be just as annoying. I' bisexual and it is difficult to find games that let you fuck both so to the have people come in and bitch is aggrevating There's also a world of difference between a fetish and your orientation. It'd be the equivalent of a game having no women compared to games not letting you suck their toes. Ones the basis of attraction and sexuality the other is a kink.

 

[Nym85]

Ok, so you're a bisexual (dude I assume) but you need to have both straight and gay scenes in the same game to enjoy it?

That's kind of setting yourself up for disappointment. I have a couple of different fetishes that I really like but I don't expect every game to cover all of them for me to have a good time.

Have you ever watched porn tagged for bi men? It's either threesomes were the two guys fool around or a guy has straight and then gay sex in two consecutive scenes. Part of the sexuality is not about "I'm fine with either" but rather "I want to explore both"

 

[DownTheDrain]

Kinda think you're missing their point mate. Bisexuals like both so if a game has both they're going to like it so when people complain because it's not all women that affects them just as much and is going to be just as annoying. I' bisexual and it is difficult to find games that let you fuck both so to the have people come in and bitch is aggrevating There's also a world of difference between a fetish and your orientation. It'd be the equivalent of a game having no women compared to games not letting you suck their toes. Ones the basis of attraction and sexuality the other is a kink.

I was tempted to just facepalm your post right back but I'm not that petty.

Couple of things...
1. I'm not bisexual so I can only go by scientific definitions and not speak from personal experience. I'm not going to roll out the Kinsey scale or some shit like that but needing both straight and gay content at the same time for sexual gratification seems more selective than what is commonly associated with bisexuality.
2. I didn't complain about the content, I was asking a question. There's some scenes in SoC that I like, some that I tolerate and some that I avoid or click through if I can't avoid them. Works just fine for me.
3. Considering how extreme and exclusive certain fetishes get I wouldn't try to draw a hard line between fetish and orientation in this context. Obviously it's not the same category but some people only manage to get off under very specific circumstances and are arguably much more limited in porn, games, art and real life than gays or bisexuals.

 

[andybc]

How do you trigger the Mikael scene? Still have no idea who he is.

 

[360 Danny DeVitos Later]

Ok, so you're a bisexual (dude I assume) but you need to have both straight and gay scenes in the same game to enjoy it?

That's kind of setting yourself up for disappointment. I have a couple of different fetishes that I really like but I don't expect every game to cover all of them for me to have a good time.

No and I've not said that or said it's necessary for me but it does mean I love games that have both because obviously I would (also yep bi guy). SOC is already like that and I'm responding to someone that wants less focus on men and futa. I don't go to straight games and ask for guys to be placed in it or gay games and ask for women be added for example.

However, when a game does let me be with both genders it is GREATLY appreciated as both sides of my attraction are right there. Basically they're a lot of fun for me. So there's a sea of straight games, a few gay games and a handful that allow both. You get straight people unhappy with the last ones and ask for anything non straight to be scaled back, not focused on or more rarely even removed. This is despite there often been a lot of straight scenes.

I don't feel it's unreasonable to like games that let me be with both men and women, especially considering how rare it is and the fact I like both. I also don't feel it's unreasonable to find it a little strange and unfair for straight people to ask for the handful of games that do have that to scale it back for more straight stuff despite there already been straight stuff in that game and most games already focusing on it. There shouldn't be anything wrong with a game that tries to satisfy multiple orientations (so long as the option to avoid stuff is there obviously). Do you see where I'm coming from? It invokes a feeling of can't you share this one with us dudes .

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

As i mentioned before don't worry. Devs here don't listen to those "eww" people about how to make their own game.

In the end that is what matters, not what some pirate arm chair dev thinks is the best for the game.

 

[DownTheDrain]

No and I've not said that or said it's necessary for me but it does mean I love games that have both because obviously I would (also yep bi guy). SOC is already like that and I'm responding to someone that wants less focus on men and futa. I don't go to straight games and ask for guys to be placed in it or gay games and ask for women be added for example.

However, when a game does let me be with both genders it is GREATLY appreciated as both sides of my attraction are right there. Basically they're a lot of fun for me. So there's a sea of straight games, a few gay games and a handful that allow both. You get straight people unhappy with the last ones and ask for anything non straight to be scaled back, not focused on or more rarely even removed. This is despite there often been a lot of straight scenes.

I don't feel it's unreasonable to like games that let me be with both men and women, especially considering how rare it is and the fact I like both. I also don't feel it's unreasonable to find it a little strange and unfair for straight people to ask for the handful of games that do have that to scale it back for more straight stuff despite there already been straight stuff in that game and most games already focusing on it. There shouldn't be anything wrong with a game that tries to satisfy multiple orientations (so long as the option to avoid stuff is there obviously). Do you see where I'm coming from? It invokes a feeling of can't you share this one with us dudes .

Alright, that makes more sense.
I was quite surprised by the sudden wave of won't somebody think of the bisexuals posts when I figured that swinging both ways should make it a lot easier to find suitable content, not harder. Obviously you're allowed to have preferences and I can understand that you enjoy getting the full package in a single game.

As for people barging in and demanding more of content X or less of fetish Y, you're always going to get that with titles that try to attract a more diverse audience. The only time that's an issue is when a vocal minority manages to sway the devs and ruins it for everyone else. Admittedly that has happened on several ocassions in the past but I doubt there's much risk here since the game has been designed with a wide variety of content in mind from the beginning.

 

[Nym85]

No and I've not said that or said it's necessary for me but it does mean I love games that have both because obviously I would (also yep bi guy). SOC is already like that and I'm responding to someone that wants less focus on men and futa. I don't go to straight games and ask for guys to be placed in it or gay games and ask for women be added for example.

However, when a game does let me be with both genders it is GREATLY appreciated as both sides of my attraction are right there. Basically they're a lot of fun for me. So there's a sea of straight games, a few gay games and a handful that allow both. You get straight people unhappy with the last ones and ask for anything non straight to be scaled back, not focused on or more rarely even removed. This is despite there often been a lot of straight scenes.

I don't feel it's unreasonable to like games that let me be with both men and women, especially considering how rare it is and the fact I like both. I also don't feel it's unreasonable to find it a little strange and unfair for straight people to ask for the handful of games that do have that to scale it back for more straight stuff despite there already been straight stuff in that game and most games already focusing on it. There shouldn't be anything wrong with a game that tries to satisfy multiple orientations (so long as the option to avoid stuff is there obviously). Do you see where I'm coming from? It invokes a feeling of can't you share this one with us dudes .

It's also about being able to identify with a character. In RPGs, Visual Novels, heck even in porn, people enjoy to a great degree being able to identify with one of the characters. Just because a bi person can enjoy watching either straight or gay sex does not mean they will identify with a straight person or a gold star gay It's about having something in common with the characters.

The one thing that is solid in SoC is that Rowan can really choose who he has sex with, at least on a meta level.

 

[DownTheDrain]

Wait I think we're on the same page here.

That's my point why ask for stuff to be removed or not focused on when you can ignore it and enjoy the content that is there for you. In SOC case there is a lot of straight content.

Again, I didn't ask for that. My issues with SoC are mostly unrelated to the sexual content.

I was just surprised that you and others argued on behalf of bisexuals but we already cleared that up.
If you had claimed, for instance, that gay players don't get enough content that isn't furry or Japanese VNs I wouldn't even have commented since that complaint makes perfect sense to me.