Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.12a Non-Patreon] [Vénus Noire]

[RC-1138 Boss]

Gaslighting. I never said it is a fact that those stories and characters are useless to the game. Again, how much energy is being put into characters that don't truly matter vs time spent better in other places? This is not some epic fantasy series, like Sanderson, Jordan, or Martin write. It's a fucking porn game.

Again that is just your opinion, stop acting like it is a fact.

 

[Retromancer]

Again that is just your opinion, stop acting like it is a fact

Again, gaslighting. I never acted like it is a fact. I am critiquing the energy spent on side characters vs the main thrust of the story. I have very major doubts - that I think are well founded - that the dragon girl, the chatty sorceress, the pregnant girl in the orc camp, (just to use a few examples that might not trigger your reflexive response of defending the devs) are going to mean anything in the end. So why are they there? This game can't decide whether it's an RNG fuck-fest or an epic fantasy porn game. It is brutally failing at the latter, in my opinion. And this is why I said what I said.

I tried to compare this game to TLS in an earlier post and someone told me that was not fair, as TLS is "not really a porn game" (It is a porn game). But this is the best comparison that I can come come up with of what this game is, I think, trying to be like. Fantasy setting with an epic feel, with choices that really matter, and a compelling story. If this is not what the devs want then please tell me, but if this is what they want it's not working. My critique is aimed at getting the game better. If it takes out side characters I like, that's fine by me.

 

[aykarin]

because im a inpatient piece of shit, can anyone post the alexia slutwalk image?

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[Rein]

This is not some epic fantasy series, like Sanderson, Jordan, or Martin write.

Says you.

Over one million words and counting, woo hoo!

 

[T51bwinterized]

Again, gaslighting. I never acted like it is a fact. I am critiquing the energy spent on side characters vs the main thrust of the story. I have very major doubts - that I think are well founded - that the dragon girl, the chatty sorceress, the pregnant girl in the orc camp, (just to use a few examples that might not trigger your reflexive response of defending the devs) are going to mean anything in the end. So why are they there? This game can't decide whether it's an RNG fuck-fest or an epic fantasy porn game. It is brutally failing at the latter, in my opinion. And this is why I said what I said.

I tried to compare this game to TLS in an earlier post and someone told me that was not fair, as TLS is "not really a porn game" (It is a porn game). But this is the best comparison that I can come come up with of what this game is, I think, trying to be like. Fantasy setting with an epic feel, with choices that really matter, and a compelling story. If this is not what the devs want then please tell me, but if this is what they want it's not working. My critique is aimed at getting the game better. If it takes out side characters I like, that's fine by me.

I think there are some points you're struggling to express, and I know I am slightly biased, but let me help slightly.

Much of the topic here is genre. That is, what genre of story is Seeds of Chaos?

But, there's a deeper question too. What is a genre?

One theory of genre that I believe would help with your conception is this. The word genre is multi-faceted but largely is a synonym to "Mode of Engagement". A mode of engagement for a story is the mechanism by which a story connects with the audience on a primal level. Comedy engages by illiciting the reaction of humor. Action by illiciting excitement. Horror by illiciting fear or disquiet.

But, Mode of Engagement isn't quite enough to explain what a genre is. Because we all understand that genre implies a set of story telling conventions. There are expectations and structures that have built up around a specific genre of story.

So what I think you're picking up is that in some ways there are tensions that exist between the genres of "Erotica" and "Epic". The Erotica genre is often premised around either quick sexual encounters or else developed relationships ala dating sims. While the epic genre loves to spend it's time soaking in a world and the people who live in it.

So a challenge of making a story in both the Epic Genre and the Erotica Genre is that the common structures of the diffrent genres are not always in perfect sync with one another. It creates conflicting impulses in some cases. This is a narrative problem I don't think we've fully solved.

But, at the same time an effective combination of the genres offers benefits that other variants of erotica or epics lack individually. Erotica draws power to the erotic through the meaning of a story's context. Long form dramatic erotica stories can be hard to execute but also among the most rewarding material of the genre.

Seeds of Chaos aims to achieve this kind of genre fusion. I don't think we're doing it perfectly. But, I do like to think we're doing it in a way that is A. Interesting and B. Creates a Unique Expierience.

So no. We fully believe that adding to the world a tapestry of stories about how people are effected by the events of the story and the scale of the narrative is a worthwhile endevour and one that will ultimatly add to the sexual component of the story as well.

 

[Rivina]

Over one million words and counting, woo hoo!

Daaaayam.

And realistically, Seeds of Chaos is probably going to be finished sooner than A Song of Ice and Fire.

 

[rivon]

Daaaayam.

And realistically, Seeds of Chaos is probably going to be finished sooner than A Song of Ice and Fire.

Well At least Winter is not as Fat (i hope) and old as Martin. So chances are ...

 

[Lord Riz]

Can anyone answer my suspicion, are certain events or more like all events time based? Meaning that after certain number of days job events simply do not happen and it defaults to the generic day at work or is it just certain events that occurred that are blocking them?

 

[PopularPersonality]

Nope. Reading comprehension is important. Read the last line of what I wrote. I like both the brothel and tavern manager a lot, for example. But what do they really add, vs. what trade offs do they require?

What is this shit argument

 

[JonJones1979]

Without spoiling a critical and complex story arc, you need to find the Orc Horde in the upper-left portion of the map near the second portal on the north side of the bridge. It looks like an orc village hex. You need to visit it and continue to revisit it over the course of many in-game weeks, and resolve the situation there however way you want. It's crucial that you do so and you need make time to do it! How you go about resolving the situation there will have massive repercussions and will have lasting effects to your game accordingly. It's an arc that the devs put a lot of effort into and it shows! Good luck and have fun! ;]

Well for now i will give this a try and see where it leads. I mean i kinda noticed that there was something missing or rather that i was not doing.

PS: It did work mighty fine. Thanks!

 

[aykarin]

Can anyone answer my suspicion, are certain events or more like all events time based? Meaning that after certain number of days job events simply do not happen and it defaults to the generic day at work or is it just certain events that occurred that are blocking them?

Not all, but a substantial portion of events are time-based. That doesn't hold true for Alexia's job events though. They are mostly random (or have requirements other than time).

 

[Lord Riz]

Not all, but a substantial portion of events are time-based. That doesn't hold true for Alexia's job events though. They are mostly random (or have requirements other than time).

Guess I'm just really failing at Greyhide's events...

 

[aykarin]

Guess I'm just really failing at Greyhide's events...

Greyhide events are particularly hard to get (too hard in my opinion), as they require very low corruption of Alexia (and possibly also Rowan - I don't remember).

 

[Lord Riz]

Greyhide events are particularly hard to get (too hard in my opinion), as they require very low corruption of Alexia (and possibly also Rowan - I don't remember).

I've played around with editor to get some of the scenes and it seems the way to get Greyhide is for both to be bellow 20 corruption.

 

[Mmushy]

I lowered the corruption for both Rowan and Alexia to 15 for the Greyhide events to trigger.
Anyone knows what's the optimum corruption for both at the current update?

 

[Retromancer]

I think there are some points you're struggling to express, and I know I am slightly biased, but let me help slightly.

Much of the topic here is genre. That is, what genre of story is Seeds of Chaos?

But, there's a deeper question too. What is a genre?

I thank you for your kind response. And I know I didn't quote the whole thing here, but I did read all of it. My frustration with the game I think largely comes with what I thought it would be compared to what it is. Perhaps the fault is all mine. I'll leave it at that and not engage with it anymore.

 

[ShinyMetalAssKnight7xl9]

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Damn! Those are great scenes, how do you trigger them?

 

[593322]

Damn! Those are great scenes, how do you trigger them?

They are new scenes for the upcoming release.

 

[mikomess]

Seeds of Chaos Extended Scene Replay Mod
by MonkOne​

• Features:
  • Add all scenes in Walkthrough file to scenes replay.
  • Option to filterout NTR and/or gay scenes in scenes replay.
• Download:
  • Attachment
• Install:
  • Extract downloaded archive into game folder(where executable file is).
• Changelog: Update A
  • Fix following issues reported by Semantics
    • Grid over full crash
    • Andras-Alexia events missing NTR tag
    • Rowan x Skordred 1 missing Gay tag
    • Jezera x Half-Minotaur Girl (BDSM) wrong scene
    • Added rastadel slum maud event
    • Added guess_whos_coming event - Rowan x Patricia
    • Fix Jezera x Alexia 3
  • Added follwing scenes as reported by Ataman87
    • xzaratl_virility - Rowan x Alexia & X’Zaratl
    • Alexia fertility treatment
  • Add helayna_mindless
  • Add silquien breeding pit events
  • Add sister gwen plain events
  • add jezera_rowan_stressed
  • add rowans_dominance_display

Preview View attachment 1144925

Hey. Will you make a sepereted page featuring your mod?

 

[gamingdevil800]

What's happening with the Fae side story now? White Scar and the other Fae show up and Rowan can stop an argument then they're never seen again. In older versions this scene didn't exist too.