Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.12a Non-Patreon] [Vénus Noire]

[Deleted member 2059697]

I turn off the NTR, but i still receiving this Choices. Its normal? Can someone please help me?

 

[rivon]

I turn off the NTR, but i still receiving this Choices. Its normal? Can someone please help me?

Ofcurse good sir! Let me explain this unfortunate situation to you.
You see any NTR protection in SoC world is not 100% foolproof. There is always a chance that your wife may or may not cheat on you even if you dont catch her do so!
Just pretend you didn't see anything!

 

[T51bwinterized]

It's almost certainly a mistaken label somewhere. We'll sort it out before next update.

 

[iainmore]

I turn off the NTR, but i still receiving this Choices. Its normal? Can someone please help me? View attachment 1896077

Use her to distract and subvert Andras.

 

[johlem]

I turn off the NTR, but i still receiving this Choices. Its normal? Can someone please help me?

I turn off the NTR, but i still receiving this Choices. Its normal? Can someone please help me? View attachment 1896077

in the worst case, if it's not obvious enough for you, you can just choose "she had absolutely not interest in him" (I never understood why there was the choice to deactivate the ntr while the choices for avoiding it couldn't be more obvious)

I turn off the NTR, but i still receiving this Choices. Its normal? Can someone please help me? View attachment 1896077

in the worst case, if it's not obvious enough for you, you can just choose "she had absolutely not interest in him" (I never understood why there was the choice to deactivate the ntr while the choices for avoiding it couldn't be more obvious)

 

[NotWhatIShouldBeDoing]

in the worst case, if it's not obvious enough for you, you can just choose "she had absolutely not interest in him" (I never understood why there was the choice to deactivate the ntr while the choices for avoiding it couldn't be more obvious)

Not really. If you give him the green light to choose whatever he want (by the ntr off button) don't expect him to take further caution down the road. That's a mistake on the dev side.

 

[rivon]

in the worst case, if it's not obvious enough for you, you can just choose "she had absolutely not interest in him" (I never understood why there was the choice to deactivate the ntr while the choices for avoiding it couldn't be more obvious)

Never underestimate the power of Dark Side the insecurity of simps being bullied by narrative choices they don't like.
Help im being assaulted by narrative choices!

 

[sin(α)]

I turn off the NTR, but i still receiving this Choices. Its normal? Can someone please help me?

There is no NTR following the first choice. It just sets alexiaNTRIntroScene variable to True, which is needed for alexiaNTRReunion scene, but if you have NTR turned off you won't get it anyway. And there's even no real NTR in alexiaNTRReunion scene, it only differs from alexiaLoyalReunion scene by a bit different dialogue.

e: (At least that was the case in 0.3.05, but i don't believe that they changed it in 0.3.06)

 

[Radicallity]

There is no NTR following the first choice. It just sets alexiaNTRIntroScene variable to True, which is needed for alexiaNTRReunion scene, but if you have NTR turned off you won't get it anyway. And there's even no real NTR in alexiaNTRReunion scene, it only differs from alexiaLoyalReunion scene by a bit different dialogue.

e: (At least that was the case in 0.3.05, but i don't believe that they changed it in 0.3.06)

Nothing's changed between the two And I doubt it will change much for the rest of the dev period.

 

[nunyabidniz]

Is the Blackholt questioned busted? I've run all over that area and I can't get the war with zii, the backstabbed hag, or the search for the assassin to pop. Granted search for the assassin is back in Blackholt proper.

Also, how do I get to the other side of the river? I can't ever leave through the south east gate. Always south west.

 

[AVeryDarkLord]

At some point, the game is just going to have to develop a "Alexia is Wife" vs "Alexia isn't wife" variable. Then, most of the scenes with her can be designed around her being present or not present.

Once you have such a variable, then it's a lot easier to pick and choose what scenes Alexia is in, so that we have more room for divergences. Alexia x Andras can become a sub-variable of Not Wife, meaning we only have to account for it in not-wife allowing scenes.

By the same token, it would gate Alexia out of generic sex scenes, but allow wider divergences in sexual content.

But, such a thing is impossible in act 1, because we have too many random or one-off scenes featuring her, especially at her job events.

For the record: This isn't an ironclad plan or anything. It's merely the type of solution we're looking at to get around multi-state wankery.

I'm also primarily interested in the Alexia/Andras path, but I'm concerned: does this mean if you continued down the path Alexia would stop being Rowan's wife? I admit that the path would lose a lot of its interest for me there. I think it would turn Alexia into not much more than one of Andras' many sex slaves with nothing to make her stand out from the crowd.

I'm a bit disappointed that Alexia's path for both twins, but especially Andras, has been just that of sex slave. I saw someone earlier complain about this for Jazera but I think it's also true of the Andras path. Alexia just submits way too quickly. I liked the original opening more when she had sex with him out of being tricked and then hated him but was aroused by him nevertheless and was slowly being seduced by him. Once she had sex with him it's like there was a missing scene where she just agrees to become Andras's sex slave. Even at the end of the box event she's more demanding than a slave would be and the hint at the end that Andras still needs to do some work seducing her (but that she would be back) was titillating, but this jumped straight into Alexia being a sex slave. I wouldn't mind this as a path but I think a slower corruption of Alexia into cheating whore would be hot.

I also really enjoyed the hints from Rowan's perspective that something might be going on between his wife and Andras. That was half the appeal but those have petered off. The idea that Alexia could freely go to Andras's room if they're living apart and he can never visit her room or even her floor, so he would never know if she had done anything with Andras except by castle rumor, was erotic as hell. I'd love to see more of it or even a Rowan investigation subplot, which could lead in a number of directions.

I realize this is work and NTR isn't the most popular but this is one of the few games that really scratches that itch and I'd be one of the happy minority to see a more complex story in that area. I have my own tastes but having more options than just a choice between Andras or Jazera for NTR (like whether she becomes a sex slave or something more (or less!!)) would be really nice. Rowan's reaction would also be good, because NTR is about all the relationships and characters involved including the cuckolded husband. Being able to choose how Rowan reacts to this to help decide the eventual outcome would be nice.

Obviously that's really complicated since that's two to six Rowan NTR states combined with two to six Alexia/Andras states, just for an NTR subplot that a lot of people dislike, but I'd love to see it.

Perhaps it'd be possible to just track all of those with a combination of variables (e.g. a cuckold stat for Rowan to track how much he likes or hates it) and events and the final outcome are decided by the combination of stats. I don't know if that would save more work than having saved states that combine with each other. Broad categories (two or three different versions of a scene in terms of CGs but minor variation in dialogue and outcome) combined with said stats might also work. Just spitballing because I'd really like to see a more comprehensive NTR subplot than just whether Alexia becomes a sex slave to which twin.

 

[NotWhatIShouldBeDoing]

I'm starting to think the anti NTR crowd doesn't hate the genre for existing, but because of the type of people it attracts to the community.

 

[rivon]

I'm starting to think the anti NTR crowd doesn't hate the genre for existing, but because of the type of people it attracts to the community.

Remember the words of wise Yoda young fapman!

 

[NotWhatIShouldBeDoing]

Remember the words of wise Yoda young fapman!
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Disdain would be more accurate than fear, but i wouldn't know.

 

[Goblin Bastard]

I'm starting to think the anti NTR crowd doesn't hate the genre for existing, but because of the type of people it attracts to the community.

You get it brother, its fine to have a kink. In some narratives I even like this one. But the people that come with this kink feel from another plane of existence in the logic leaps they make to get there thing into a story or game.

TLDR

 

[litamagsin]

What is the summoning chamber?

 

[rivon]

It's bizarre sometimes to watch how people hide from their own insecurities.

"Hate, disdain, but i wouldn't know... "

In the end it's all boils down to---> This people don't like what i like.
I despise them for not being like me or being opposite of me or/and don't share my views.
Again ----> self reflect or dark side will be you.

 

[NotWhatIShouldBeDoing]

Lmao at that awful misquote

It's bizarre sometimes to watch how people hide from their own insecurities.

In the end it's all boils down to---> This people don't like what i like.
I despise them for not being like me or being opposite of me or/and don't share my views.
Again ----> self reflect or dark side will be you.

I know you SoC fans are always looking for a lengthy argument, but I'm not interested. Besides, "ntr or insecure"? This will be me punching down.

 

[360 Danny DeVitos Later]

I'm also primarily interested in the Alexia/Andras path, but I'm concerned: does this mean if you continued down the path Alexia would stop being Rowan's wife? I admit that the path would lose a lot of its interest for me there. I think it would turn Alexia into not much more than one of Andras' many sex slaves with nothing to make her stand out from the crowd.

I'm a bit disappointed that Alexia's path for both twins, but especially Andras, has been just that of sex slave. I saw someone earlier complain about this for Jazera but I think it's also true of the Andras path. Alexia just submits way too quickly. I liked the original opening more when she had sex with him out of being tricked and then hated him but was aroused by him nevertheless and was slowly being seduced by him. Once she had sex with him it's like there was a missing scene where she just agrees to become Andras's sex slave. Even at the end of the box event she's more demanding than a slave would be and the hint at the end that Andras still needs to do some work seducing her (but that she would be back) was titillating, but this jumped straight into Alexia being a sex slave. I wouldn't mind this as a path but I think a slower corruption of Alexia into cheating whore would be hot.

I also really enjoyed the hints from Rowan's perspective that something might be going on between his wife and Andras. That was half the appeal but those have petered off. The idea that Alexia could freely go to Andras's room if they're living apart and he can never visit her room or even her floor, so he would never know if she had done anything with Andras except by castle rumor, was erotic as hell. I'd love to see more of it or even a Rowan investigation subplot, which could lead in a number of directions.

I realize this is work and NTR isn't the most popular but this is one of the few games that really scratches that itch and I'd be one of the happy minority to see a more complex story in that area. I have my own tastes but having more options than just a choice between Andras or Jazera for NTR (like whether she becomes a sex slave or something more (or less!!)) would be really nice. Rowan's reaction would also be good, because NTR is about all the relationships and characters involved including the cuckolded husband. Being able to choose how Rowan reacts to this to help decide the eventual outcome would be nice.

Obviously that's really complicated since that's two to six Rowan NTR states combined with two to six Alexia/Andras states, just for an NTR subplot that a lot of people dislike, but I'd love to see it.

Perhaps it'd be possible to just track all of those with a combination of variables (e.g. a cuckold stat for Rowan to track how much he likes or hates it) and events and the final outcome are decided by the combination of stats. I don't know if that would save more work than having saved states that combine with each other. Broad categories (two or three different versions of a scene in terms of CGs but minor variation in dialogue and outcome) combined with said stats might also work. Just spitballing because I'd really like to see a more comprehensive NTR subplot than just whether Alexia becomes a sex slave to which twin.

I mean on any path where Alexia betrays Rowan with the twins, she's cheating on him with the people that kidnapped her. Then used her to get him to betray everything he stood for under threat of harming her. In fact fucking her is another way to get to Rowan. The twins barely value Rowan and he's genuinely useful, Alexia been seen as an amusement seems about right. So yeah fucking them and becoming a glorified sex slave for a while seems about right for what'd happen. Edit: Actually I think that's kinda the point, to show how corrupted she's becoming.

The game has NTR but isn't an NTR game, there's a load of kinks which seems deliberate. There's no anal, gangbang or foot stat or bar to track Rowans preference. I don't see why NTR should be special.

I'm starting to think the anti NTR crowd doesn't hate the genre for existing, but because of the type of people it attracts to the community.

Ah nope this is a site filled with people playing games where they bang they're own daughter, mum or sister and that is considered fine and dandy. I've literally seen people be in one thread drooling over daughter fucking be in another thread moaning about NTR. The site is full of weirdos NTR lovers aren't any different to feet lovers, gangbang lovers, incest lovers in that regard, hand holding probably has it's weirdos. It's perverts moaning about kinks they dislike nothing more, that's like 20% of the site .

 

[sin(α)]

Nothing's changed between the two And I doubt it will change much for the rest of the dev period.

There're a lot of "TODO"s in the SoC code (just like unused variables), i hope they'll do smth with those one day.