Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.12a Non-Patreon] [Vénus Noire]
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Maybe I missed something, but aren't the driders basically feral? Thought you could get away with mythical beasts and "monsters".
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We cannot get away with Wargs. Driders are kinda sentient and also don't resemble actual animals.
You could make a plot about a warg that ends up being a barghest (a goblin/worg lycanthrope)
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- Apr 26, 2017
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No amount of begging will change that. Devs aren't interested in losing their plataforms (patreon and steam) for this.
Fair enough, will have to take a rain check on the driders though, I assume you meant sapient rather than sentient, but last time I played the behavior of the driders resembled that of a trained beast at best.
Being honest, this game is already playing around with a lot of content that could risk their platforms, I don't think it is "begging" to wonder if they couldn't skirt around this one too, specially since pretty much every individual taboo aspect of it is already separatedly done in other characters.
Is the issue the lack of sapience? Driders and maybe the tentacle creature got that covered. Is the issue the resemblance to features of real animals? Well hello wolf-daddy and Greyhide. Is the issue the context of potential abuse and lack of consent? Really don't think I need to exemplify that one in this game, do I?
I'm fine with the devs drawing the line wherever they want or they feel they need to, but I don't think it is fair to pretend there isn't a discussion to be had when the lines outlying the issue are already so shaky.
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Message Maven
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Bestiality is forbbiden on patreon. Therefore there is no discussion to be had because it is not the devs drawing a line wherever they want. So don't insist for it won't happen.
It is the devs drawing a line where they felt they needed to, which is fine, they either got more specific directives or some other reason to know risking adding sexual content with wargs would be a bad idea. I am not arguing against the decision of the devs. I am arguing against your supression of people discussing what content could be okay then. Bestiality is forbidden on patreon, but what IS the "forbidden bestiality", as opposed to what the game already has in the examples I mentioned?
If you can answer that, then the discussion will have served a purpose, since then with some creativity more content could be adequated and added without breaking any guidelines, either by adding more sapience to the monsters, or making them more "fantastical" and less alike real animals, etc.
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Basically if they cant consent and they look like an animal, its completely against the rules. Wild life-esque Bipedals are about as far as you can take it without crossing the line. Other devs manage to get away with worse but if they get reported enough, or get too popular, they will be taken down. The Devs could introduce bipedal werewolves, but they aren't really wargs nor would they really be in kennels, so it doesn't make sense for this case.
Fair enough, that's all I really wanted to know. Maybe I gave the wrong impression, but I'm not interested in arguing against the arbitrarity of patreon or the devs or whatever else in that sense, I just wanted a clearer definition so that people's suggestions don't get shot down with just "we are not doing bestiality in the game, don't ask for it" when other content already in the game could be mistaken as such. I'm fine with whatever is decided as long as I can at least know what was decided.
stuck in this update! objective says to take over rastadel but i have no idea what to even do! Went everywhere on the map and nothing triggers!
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Without spoiling too much for you, essentially you'll need to visit and continue to revisit the northwestern Orc camp near the second portal (which is in the upper left portion of the map) until you figure out a way to recruit the Orc Horde there into your armies. Afterwards, you'll need to march your armies and lay siege to the region's capitol, Rastedel, near the northeastern side (on the upper right) of the map within the timeframe given to you by your masters. Good luck and have fun!
If my memory serves me well, Studio FOW got their last Patreon ban exactly for that - bipedal werewolves. Three of them having their 100% consensual way with some red hooded girl.
Ah sucks, I wanted to say that my barghest idea is mostly like a werewolf, but I guess that doesn't mean much
Curious though, why isn't Whitescar an issue then (and when will Rowan ride him silly?)
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That's because they had already been warned multiple times about bestiality, and that was their way to try and circumvent it. Patreon basically just had enough of them. But this is pretty off topic.
What I've tried to say here - Patreon mods is not very consistent in applying their own rules and all this furry business are kind of grey zone.
