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I will say this. As much as I hate Andras, he does his job as a character perfectly. He is one of the best pure villains I have ever seen in a porn game. Like, I HATE this dude, and actively want to see him get his. It's a sign of great writing when instead of just "sexy villain" want to actually destroy them.
 

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Alexia is a bit of a whore and thats the way i like her. I like stories where the famales get to have some fun as well. Not another harem power fantasy. Dont feel that the prologe needs rewriting. After all the twins were treating her nice in the castle and she was alone there for months Andras was not acting like a jerk untill that point.
Not to mention that she is only offering herself up after months (weeks at least) because she thinks doing so will buy Rowans life. Unless my memory is completely off she also doesn't enjoy the sex at all, really.
We perhaps experience a bit too little of her imprisonment for full immersion but I wouldn't have thought any rewrite was needed.

NTR and corruption are tricky and personal/subjective subjects and I don't envy what the developers are probably dealing with in terms of feedback.

I will say this. As much as I hate Andras, he does his job as a character perfectly. He is one of the best pure villains I have ever seen in a porn game. Like, I HATE this dude, and actively want to see him get his. It's a sign of great writing when instead of just "sexy villain" want to actually destroy them.
Yes. I despise Andras but I don't mind him getting screentime (I haven't tested a route more focused on him). He does the story and game a lot of good.
 

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Not to mention that she is only offering herself up after months (weeks at least) because she thinks doing so will buy Rowans life. Unless my memory is completely off she also doesn't enjoy the sex at all, really.
We perhaps experience a bit too little of her imprisonment for full immersion but I wouldn't have thought any rewrite was needed.

NTR and corruption are tricky and personal/subjective subjects and I don't envy what the developers are probably dealing with in terms of feedback.



Yes. I despise Andras but I don't mind him getting screentime (I haven't tested a route more focused on him). He does the story and game a lot of good.
I enjoy blueballing him. Rowan and Alexia fuck everything in my playthroughs, but never him. It amuses me.
 

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Alexia is a bit of a whore and thats the way i like her. I like stories where the famales get to have some fun as well. Not another harem power fantasy. Dont feel that the prologe needs rewriting. After all the twins were treating her nice in the castle and she was alone there for months Andras was not acting like a jerk untill that point.
Within reason, but we still feel that we were inexpert with our portrayal of it. At the end of the day, sometimes if a scene is producing more varied reaction when we intended, it implies that the communication was imperfect. So, while we're clearing up and improving the rest of the intro (RIP Trap Door) we want to do a better job making that scene feel consistent with the rest of the Alexia NTR. One element of that is giving the player more control of her reaction to him.

o_O who is that?
That's a new CG for the "Confrontation" branch of the Shaya Finale. What's being portrayed is something of a spoiler.
 
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Reviews and comments on here are misleading. NTR and cuckoldry is not avoidable. I tried posting a review about it and it was deleted despite blatant misinformation on the reviews. Hopefully this won't be deleted and will be ample warning for those like me who were mislead by the comments on here and by the reviews.

Not trying to bash the game, just trying to combat the misinformation. No issue with NTR lovers or Cucks, but I don't want people who aren't into those kinks to be mislead like I was.
The reason It was remove cuz the review was misleading and written by moron Alexia is a secondary protagonist even if u turn the ntr on which u did and complaining there's ntr anyways it's avoidable it's as simple as that I don't know y it's this hard for u ppl . pathetic losers whining about ur virtual wifus like dude even in RL if u treat a woman like shit she'll leave sometime even u were nice to her
 
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I will say this. As much as I hate Andras, he does his job as a character perfectly. He is one of the best pure villains I have ever seen in a porn game. Like, I HATE this dude, and actively want to see him get his. It's a sign of great writing when instead of just "sexy villain" want to actually destroy them.
I fully agree. He's the villain you would want to be, but not the one you want to face. Playing as Rowan, I deeply hate him. However, I do respect his ways.
 

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Yes, There is a new Alexia F x F scene this release. No it doesn't involve Mary.




The NTR remains, as always, optional. Alexia can turn down Andras and Jezera, and if she does she canonically never sleeps with them.

I'm aware that people have complained that she's too open to Andras in the prologue, and while that's still not her agreeing to cheat on Rowan, we are just straight up rewriting that scene for the September release.
I don't think you should rewrite it unless it is something that you really want to do. Alexia's captivity without Rowan lasted a very long time and she was authentically afraid for his life as well as suffering from Stockholm syndrome. The twins were working her with methods such as solitary confinement deprivation of interaction for months. There was only one person in the entire castle who was treating her with a modicum of kindness. It is very natural to begin to identify with and seek affection from your captors as a survival mechanism. Even a captor as inhuman as Andreas. Anybody who says they would do differently in her shoes is probably lying to themselves. We also have to remind ourselves that Alexia was a peasant wife and not a nun. Not that they have any more luck resisting the corruption of the twins.
 

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I fully agree. He's the villain you would want to be, but not the one you want to face. Playing as Rowan, I deeply hate him. However, I do respect his ways.
The thing that makes the twins interesting is while their ways make sense, they both fuck up when applying them. Andras is a petulant child incapable of seeing the bigger picture due to his obsessive dick measuring behavior. Jez wants to be a 4 chess master, but when she loses her temper has vicious and deadly tantrums. The irony is that while they balance each other out a bit, they would still be massively incompetant world leaders, due to their ego and inability to adapt.
 
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The thing that makes the twins interesting is while their ways make sense, they both fuck up when applying them. Andras is a petulant child incapable of seeing the bigger picture due to his obsessive dick measuring behavior. Jez wants to be a 4 chess master, but when she loses her temper has vicious and deadly tantrums. The irony is that while they balance each other out a bit, they would still be massively incompetant world leaders, due to their ego and inability to adapt.
That's what I think will be their fall in the game's end. Or at least the path I would like to choose.
 
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The thing that makes the twins interesting is while their ways make sense, they both fuck up when applying them. Andras is a petulant child incapable of seeing the bigger picture due to his obsessive dick measuring behavior. Jez wants to be a 4 chess master, but when she loses her temper has vicious and deadly tantrums. The irony is that while they balance each other out a bit, they would still be massively incompetant world leaders, due to their ego and inability to adapt.
A agree that both of the twins have a big, throbbing Achilles heel of their own, but together they manage to mitigate the other's flaws. If Rowan is going to be successful in stopping them at any point he is going to need to drive a wedge between them somehow and employ a divide and conquer strategy. This will be exceedingly difficult.
 
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A agree that both of the twins have a big, throbbing Achilles heel of their own, but together they manage to mitigate the other's flaws. If Rowan is going to be successful in stopping them at any point he is going to need to drive a wedge between them somehow and employ a divide and conquer strategy. This will be exceedingly difficult.
I think they are too reliant on Rowan to do their tactical thinking for them. The wedge is cleverly there already imo, in that they each want to do thigns differently. I think in time one of them will try and overthrow the other due to lust for power.
 

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Despite all of his obvious flaws, Andras is perhaps a better leader than Jezera. Sure, he is in many ways primitive and brutish, also has anger issues. But Jezera is even more incompetent: despite being good at scheming (and often succeeding at it), she is completely childish, irresponsible and seems to be less focused on her duties than Andras. The red demon spends most of his time in barracks, training and commanding orcs, while also supervises forge work and driders - overall he seems to be very focused on his duties. Jezera on the other hand tends to spend most of her time playing with maids or devising petty schemes. She doesn't seem to be taking her role seriously at all. While Andras often cooperates with Rowan on his missions (we can see it during orc tribe events and village occupation events), Jezera spends most of her time in her chambers. If Rowan contacts her during his missions, she is interested only when it looks enjoyable to her (e.g. how she helped Rowan with corrupting the traveling nun or how she came to the witch convent). In other times, she simply doesn't care. During the event with Darla the Huntress, when Rowan contacts Jezera to consult with her a possibility of recruiting a large group of mercenaries, she tells him to stop bothering her because she is currently having some fun. I don't remember Andras being ever so negligent, despite also liking to have fun.

Also, Jezera's schemes, even if they succeed, are often very one-dimensional. Sleeping with an enemy general is a nice idea, but can succeed only against a man of lesser character (I sincerely doubt that someone like Werden could have fallen for a trick like that). In the prologue, Jezera lures Rowan away from Arthdale to capture Alexia, but when Rowan returns she is caught by surprise and is nearly killed/wounded by him. Even Andras calls her out on that after he comes to rescue her. We could also argue that each of the twins has an area of responsibility. Andras is in charge of the military and munitions, Jezera is in charge of spies and foreign relations. But whereas Andras does his job very well, Jezera is only partially successful. She succeeds in gaining Ameraine as an ally in Rastedel but miserably fails during her negotiations with the dark elves. Also, despite being a spymaster, she completely fails to stop plotting of important castle staff members. Both Cliohna and Shaya manage to take Rowan (who is supposedly monitored by Jezera) under their control in their respective paths (the only one who can stop them is Rowan himself, not Jezera) and Cla-Min is running wild with corruption, counterfeit money etc.
 
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But whereas Andras does his job very well, Jezera is only partially successful.
There are points where Andras absolutely bungles his job. The scene with the contingent of orcs that followed Karnas. The scene where a failure by a squad of orcs results in Andras killing the survivors. I think there are a couple other scenes like those. (Maybe in the random orc village recruitment scenes? Can't remember for sure. There's also the post-field-battle scene where he executes tons of captives for shits and giggles, though I can't remember it in enough detail. I'm pretty sure even corrupt Rowan thinks it's wasteful and dumb though.)

The one thing I'll give to Andras over Jezera is that he seems more willing to learn, given the one scene where Rowan is stunned by Andras learning and adjusting. I don't recall ever seeing that with Jezera, though Jezera also seems like she wouldn't want Rowan to see her adjusting her ideas and tactics.
 

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I think they are too reliant on Rowan to do their tactical thinking for them. The wedge is cleverly there already imo, in that they each want to do thigns differently. I think in time one of them will try and overthrow the other due to lust for power.
Hmm that could be the wedge Rowan could created, help one take out the other.

But truth be told i don't see that happening anytime soon, despite the bickering they do seem very focused on their shared goal of conquest so far.
 

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There are points where Andras absolutely bungles his job. The scene with the contingent of orcs that followed Karnas. The scene where a failure by a squad of orcs results in Andras killing the survivors. I think there are a couple other scenes like those. (Maybe in the random orc village recruitment scenes? Can't remember for sure. There's also the post-field-battle scene where he executes tons of captives for shits and giggles, though I can't remember it in enough detail. I'm pretty sure even corrupt Rowan thinks it's wasteful and dumb though.)

The one thing I'll give to Andras over Jezera is that he seems more willing to learn, given the one scene where Rowan is stunned by Andras learning and adjusting. I don't recall ever seeing that with Jezera, though Jezera also seems like she wouldn't want Rowan to see her adjusting her ideas and tactics.
There's also the fact that Andras is extremely brutish in his handling of practically everything. We may not see Jezera screw up all that much but that's in large part because Andras is a childish oaf while his sister is a calculating manipulator. Whatever mistakes Jezera makes are likely planned for, she doesn't seem like the type of character to act impulsively unless she has no other choice. Jezera fucks up and throws a temper tantrum when no one is around, whereas Andras is more likely than not going to choke a person out if any mistakes are made even if they're his own. Andras is playing checkers Jezera is pretending to play chess when in actuality her opponent is a taxidermy dummy and she's really playing solitaire.

I get the feeling that Jezera would last a lot longer waging a campaign against Rowan than Andras would. Andras' strategies would be straight forward and brutal assaults that would rely mainly on military might and Rowan knows how to defeat that kind of tactic. Jezera's strategies would center around manipulation, economic pressure, assassination, and backroom politics to soften her opposition before engaging in warfare. Rowan would still defeat her if he had the necessary forces, but she would take longer and cause more vital damage than Andras would.

Okay, now that the paragraphs are out of the way... Did someone se Cia'Min content in the next update?
 

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Okay, now that the paragraphs are out of the way... Did someone se Cia'Min content in the next update?
Yeah, Cla-Min starts trading with orcs in an orc camp and Rowan can help her with that. At the end there is a possibility of a sex scene. Overall it's quite good I think.
 

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There's also the fact that Andras is extremely brutish in his handling of practically everything. We may not see Jezera screw up all that much but that's in large part because Andras is a childish oaf while his sister is a calculating manipulator. Whatever mistakes Jezera makes are likely planned for, she doesn't seem like the type of character to act impulsively unless she has no other choice. Jezera fucks up and throws a temper tantrum when no one is around, whereas Andras is more likely than not going to choke a person out if any mistakes are made even if they're his own. Andras is playing checkers Jezera is pretending to play chess when in actuality her opponent is a taxidermy dummy and she's really playing solitaire.
Am I completely misremembering things or didn't she blow any and all chances for a powerful Dark elf alliance because of a minor jab at her ego?

I always got the impression that for all of her successes there are plenty of plans that don't pan out do to her arrogance or childishness. She does have contingencies and by the nature of her dealings failures won't always be as visible but she shows strong inclinations to the same destructive temper tantrums when things don't go her way. It hurts her ego in a very different way than Andras' since she wants to be, or at least be seen as, a great schemer and expects herself to not allow bad situations to arise, unlike Andras who just gets angry at the world for not being as he wants/expects.
 
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