Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.13a] [Vénus Noire]
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The devs are at least thinking about it as there's a hint of it in the game. At one point, Rowan can inquire about fertility treatments with a certain someone at the Library, but it hasn't been implemented as of yet. The game will call you out on it in a rather interesting way though.
While we're at it, is the Nemesis angle in danger of being dropped from the game? I vaguely recall art for it on Patreon from way back in the day.
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That's what I'm remembering as well, but was curious about its current state and whether it will be ultimately cut from the game.
That's about as full a list as exists currently. Mind that there's a typo on the Alexia corruption one.
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Why does this game get so little content each update? or it is just me? just very curious. i enjoy the game and want more content. and yes i do remember the term 'beggars cant be choosers'
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Did, uh, did you notice the 20+ CG/80k Word January update?
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Hello guys, can you give me in depth details on how this bug came to be? I need to replicate the conditions for it to be properly quashed.
any images of the bug, save file you can share for the conditions will definitely help.
Thanks in advance.
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Seconded. This request for details on the village bug is coming right from the devs. We want to fix it.
As far as I know, the problem is with capturing villages. When you capture one trough different events (like an orc wants to lead, or you meet the girl that invites you to her home) everything seems to be alright. But when the week ends and you look at you kingdom stats the captured village count remains unchanged.
So the only events that seem to work correctly and that let you capture the village are the one with a cult and I thi k the nobleman offering you girls.
So the only events that seem to work correctly and that let you capture the village are the one with a cult and I thi k the nobleman offering you girls.
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Keep in mind the last version of the game I played was 0.2.49 (I think it was the last free version?), so if something was fixed or changed about this in the meantime my information is going to be outdated, but from taking a look at the code here's the situation:
While I don't know the exact details of how it works, you guys use a function to randomly select an event among a list of viable ones, which I think are defined by conditions on the event itself and a list of files the function can look at (so when looking for village events it can only look at the "village_encounter" files to look for an event), also I believe this random function only lets any event happen once and then they become ineligible.
So, with villages, it seems you guys wanted to have 2 models of randomness, the player could get a unique random full event as soon as they reached the village (unscrupulous_noble, swamp_coven, a_friendly_dinner, a_cheating_elder, the_dragons_path), or they could get the generic village encounter (village_general) and then a random follow-up event based on the players's choice (occupy_ev, destroy_ev, trade_ev, village_trade_offer_slave_instead, village_trade_other_trader, the old hero event variants).
The issue is, the follow-up events don't seem to be specially guarded from the random function over the full ones, they can be chosen to play without the generic village encounter playing first, and most of the rewards are handled by the choice done during the generic village encounter event (since quite a few of the follow-up events are just for flavor). So essentially, the player can reach a village and then it will play an event saying Rowan conquered/destroyed/traded with a village (without the player's input), but it won't change anything in the game's logic, Rowan won't receive more money, income from villages won't be increased, slaves won't be acquired, etc.
Without touching the random event selector function you guys are using, I think the fix would be to separate all follow-up events from the full ones into different files, this should stop the "empty conquests" from happening. Another concern is that I believe that the generic village encounter can only be called once by the random event selector, don't know if that's something that can be easily disabled in the function's parameters, if not and you guys don't want to rework the event selector, then you guys might need to implement the randomness outside of the selector for this in particular.
Also some events just have TODOs on their code, but I figure these aren't worth pointing out and will be handled when you guys do a big "spring cleaning" on the game's code.
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I don't know much about the scripting, but I described the bug in one of my guides, the second link in my signature. It's not in any great detail, the mention in the guide is just to help players avoid losing revenue, but to my recollection, it's been in the game at least as long as I've been playing (0.2.39 being my first version). I can 100% confirm it was in 0.2.41. I don't know if that'll help you track it down, though.
I'd tested all unique village capture events that were in the game as of 0.2.43, and can confirm that, among those, only the Unscrupulous Noble event and the event starting with a village attempting to perform human sacrifice seem to add to captured village count and revenue. The generic village capture events all seemed to work correctly. I unfortunately can't at this point remember what flags may or may not have been set, but I was prioritizing village captures, so these would have all been tested very early on in the game, certainly before Week 22. I don't know if it would make a difference with the way the scripting works, but I would have tested the events solely on villages around the starting area, ie the area you can explore before crossing any bridges.
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