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Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.13a] [Vénus Noire]
No you can't kill the mary sue super bull designed to perfectly cuck you and have a bigger dick than you and be better than you in everyway. His entire design is utter cancer, I honestly doubt there will be any satisfying way of ever handling him. Because he's clearly the creators dream bull. Rowan is basically designed to be sexually inferior to everyone for the creators fetish, thats why basically everyone is bigger than he is. The optional ntr stuff wouldn't be so annoying if the creator didn't go out of his way to design rowan blantantly to be such a utter loser in literally every aspect, including sexually. You know whats fun in a porn game? Having the smallest cock of all of the people that can fuck your women and your wife! Quality design for porn right there. You're not going to be able to ruin dream bulls life like he constantly does to you, or anything like that. Because the creator will protect this character, in the end its going to be some half baked scene where you "turn the tables on him" and it moves on ignoring all of the shit this guy attempts to do you constantly. Expect not to be get satisfying revenge on brother. But do expect a billion more scenes where he adds on to the torture the character can inflict on you the player character instead though. Because with the way this story is written, the only people that have consequences for their actions is the player. The player isn't allowed revenge or to put consequences on others for the horrid things they attempt to do to him. The character and player expected to just take it, and not be upset that the brother you know was trying to fuck his wife or rape his friends etc. Even though no reasonable human being would ever just say oh remember that time you attempted to rape my wife! All is forgiven! I picked the action that prevented said thing from happening and that means what you were trying to do doesn't matter!
Rowan/theplayer won't have a bunch of scenes where he steals red assholes girls, or bangs the sister in front of him repeatedly where the sister chooses Rowan over her brother and degrades the bother like he has the other girls degrade you etc. It will be some small thing thrown in with basically no meat to it, compared to everything else that gets done to the player. As for what I would want to happen? I'd want Rowan somewhere in the game drink a permanent giga dick potion to start ahegaoing the sister and getting her onto the players side, then mtfing the bother into a non futa girl and her sticking around as as sex slave for the rest of the game. With long detail scenes of you corrupting them both into your slaves. But for the reasons I mentioned above, none of this is likely or it will be meatless content because this is about Rowan being something other than a sexually inferior loser. Which is a shame, but it is what it is.
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Hello. ^^ Sorry if this question has been answered before, but is this the kind of game in which we're forced to follow the bad guys, but will eventually have a choice to do the right thing and turn against them ? Or is it bad all the way (just choosing my way to go about it : "nicer" means or harsh means).
Thanks for reading me.
Thanks for reading me.
I think the level up menu should be changed and instead of gaining attributes through level up which you only get one you should be able to gain "feats" or "traits" through your adventures. for example if you can dominate Cliohna you should get the trait "unyielding" which gives a certain amount of mental defence. or if you submit you gain the trait "submissive" which forces certain dialog options. so you can't dominate over Cliohna while also taking Minotaur dick up the ass at the same time. That would go against the character you developed
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Oh, you think you're slick, don't you?
Define actual content.
Negatory. That would make a multi-state for every event including Alexia in the game.
There's a decent mix of Rowan in both roles, depending on preference. Because you have some agency over what scenes trigger, there's room to define him as a top, bottom, or versatile depending on how you want him to be.
Shares his popcorn.
Yeah, we warned Patrons that the new update would break saves. But, pirates are more worried about sharing downloads then they are about sharing critical information about said downloads.amazing work !!
my saves no longer works
Define that term.
Whose "Alexis"?
I actually agree that's something of an issue. I've already spoken to the boss man about perhaps changing the trigger order for the two scenes.
We're working on improving the gameplay so it feels better to play. We're not removing the game elements, but we want to make the experience smoother.
Beautiful. I live for this kind of hatred. Keep it up.
There is not presently the choice to openly turn against them. However the player can subtly sabotage them and their efforts. Closer to the back half of the game, an option to openly revolt will be in the game.Hello. ^^ Sorry if this question has been answered before, but is this the kind of game in which we're forced to follow the bad guys, but will eventually have a choice to do the right thing and turn against them ? Or is it bad all the way (just choosing my way to go about it : "nicer" means or harsh means).
Thanks for reading me.
As a form of game design thought experiment, I do actually agree that such a system would be pretty great and have a lot of merit. But, as a practical discussion, it would impossible to impliment such a thing at this stage in the game. So I'll say "Not a bad suggestion, but too late."
See this sort of thing really only confirms what I stated in the post. The game just exists to spit on you the player really and there is no intention for proper resolution for anything I said. Its not even haterd, its utter disappointment. You guys ruin the player agency and the porn aspect for the people not interested in the NTR, to fuel the NTR part with no proper balance. The ability to "turn it off" doesn't change anything I stated in my previous post. I said it all with that in mind. The game heavily favors the NTR aspect over everything else, and the non NTR path is basically just tacked on to fund the other part. The character designs themselves show that and so does all of the writing. It honestly wouldn't be hard to correct any of this, I just know you have no intention of doing so and its sad. Because otherwise the game could be made into something actually unique.
Where is your confusion.
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Do you have, like, an actual stated criticism or are you just here to brighten my day? Because, by all means, I'm enjoying myself. From what I can gather it mostly seems to revolve around Rowan's in-game dick being too small?
You're being extremely disingenuous here because I had more criticism than just that and went into detail other things. Though I do actually consider it to be ridiculous for how often you go out of your way to do that to humiliate the player character and how often its focused on in the game. Do you think the non-ntr players enjoy that sort of thing? I can try to break down my post, if you're having that much trouble reading through it. But I honestly think you're just using this as a way to dismiss criticism because you're not happy that I call a certain villain the creators dream bull. Because its how the character is written and how he comes off. Which based on the reception of the post, a lot of the things I complain about in the post is obvious to others and they agree. So I'm not the only person that thinks this way clearly.
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Can you like... just stop?
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No. Please. I would love for you to go into intricate detail about all of the things about this game that make you mad. Hopefully in a bullet-point list.
Let me have my fun.
Well your projection of your own anger noted, but I'm not sure I see the point after this post. You obviously have nothing but utter contempt for this side of the playerbase and the people that expressed their agreement with the post. I'd be willing to make a less hyperbolic and more serious post and meet you half way, but its clear you have no intention to show any sort of sincerely to the other side of player bases feedback or myself. I also doubt my feedback up make it to anyone else who might be receptive. This all kind of just proves my point. Which is a shame because I honestly originally had a lot of high hopes for this game. But the Rowan actually winning path is clearly not something you plan on taking feedback on or seriously. Which the entire last part of that long post was about, just general hopes for it.
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We take feedback. Most of the time people come in here like "I don't like so and so because of so and so reason" and I nod and note down what people dislike and then see what can be done. I'm trying to talk to Arioch about changing the way that the mid-corruption scenes triggered based on the specific criticism of some of the people here.
It's just that you're hilarious. So please continue talking.
P.S. Yes, yes. If you lay off hyberbole and personal insults, I'll take what you say way more seriously.
It's just that you're hilarious. So please continue talking.
P.S. Yes, yes. If you lay off hyberbole and personal insults, I'll take what you say way more seriously.
I think you're not getting that the story is very bleak, like Berserk bleak. Rowan isn't going to dish OP move that kill armies left and right, he is outnumbered, outpowered, outwitted. He needs to slowly plan his victory, like a normal man, rather an OP protagonist of some shounen manga.
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If it's not a spoiler, what are the planned routes for this game?
If I were a betting man I'd say your last few posts have been less about the pro-Rowan side and more about the self-insert side. Time and time again throughout multiple events he's described as being just the average, normal, everyday human. Obviously he's not going to be capable of slapping the brother's head off and will need more than just himself to accomplish the task of eventually beating the twins, you know, instead of the plot suddenly breaking everything up to that point and making a 180 to fulfill YOUR power fantasy. The NTR can be turned off, you can avoid it entirely when it's on, and you can grab multiple women during the story that have yet to even share a single scene with the brother and likely won't until far later in the year 2035 when this game gets to Act 3 where Rowan loses in some coup attempt in a one-off game over screen.
Even with the obvious power gap between Rowan and the brother it's the smaller acts of defiance given as dialogue options, the growing list of crimes made to solidify the wanting of the twins death, and the growing number of potential allies against them that make for a much better story than some unearned sudden boost of godlike strength to suddenly make you forget about ur smol pp.
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The big three are three basic routes, but we're still settling the exact sub-routes. One route where Rowan remains the twins servant. And two routes where he remains in conflict of them. One where he's still relatively pure trying to stop evil. And one where he's corrupted to chaos but still hungers for vengeance.
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Yeah, I have some really cool plans for the day when I can write a Rowan in open rebellion. But, we're still in the gathering allies phase of that storyline.
Oh no I completely understand that part, Rowan is in a bad spot that much is very clear. Its what I was referring to regarding this being unique. But as I mentioned in my other post, there are certain things that just show up constantly and don't really get addressed. He makes a joke about the dick thing, but the reason I mention is because it just keeps happening in the game to the point of like NTR manga parody. Its clearly something that is being used to degrade him or something Rowan is lacking if all of his antagonists flaunt this. Which is fine if Rowan can do something about it, you're going to keep bringing up this characteristic
then let the player do something about it. Clearly a world full of magic, even the wife( I believe) grows one that is bigger than Rowans. Maybe this is something he can do during the up coming revolt content half way, that would be fitting I guess and no other art would have to be changed then because it would just be how things are drawn going forward. Thats why I mention it, its something that endlessly happens in the game. It kind of casts a shadow over the other content Rowan is in.
As for slowly planning his way for victory, it honestly doesn't come off that way. His wife treats him unreasonably and he basically doesn't stand up for himself. he corruption seems to happen way to easily, everyone just gives in instantly. Rowan doesn't really seem like he's getting anywhere as much as just being able to avoid certain things. I'd happy to have a slow build up if there actually seems like there is a plan or something we are working towards. But that doesn't really get shown as taking place in a meaningful manner anywhere.
Just see my reply above. I'd be happy to be wrong, but there isn't much progress in Rowan doing much. He's not really getting his own power, we aren't getting real hints of we are heading towards a victory over anyone. I'm fine with the long game if they're going to put as much detail, in the revolt in utterly destroying the Twins. Making the twins his bitch, like I said I'd want as much detail of Rowan corrupting Andras into a weak succubus or something. The same level of detail that Andras has on the MANY many many scenes of him fucking Rowans wife and the many many scenes of him making Rowan his bitch. Which just endlessly increases.
" On the visual novel side the game is inspired by the deep branched dialogue inspired by Obsidian, Bioware, and the Witcher games. These dialogues are designed to be meaningful, and often affect later meetings and events. "
Alright that sounds great, where is the meaningful choices where what we did actually does something that effects anything other than if you get cucked? Where are the scenes where you're building up towards that upcoming revolt or doing any sort of self improvement that is meaningful enough to corrupt the sister to your side during it? I'm just not seeing that aspect being portrayed well in the game so far.
This is what all lead to the original post I made, there aren't much hints of Rowan making progress as much it seems he's going sideways fast instead of forwards.
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