Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.13a] [Vénus Noire]
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After you arrive at Rastadel you'll investigate the alleys, and when you do you'll find Alain and some soldiers, offer to help train the soldiers, after that Rowan and Alain will have a spare, Rowan will win and after that you both retire to his place to take a bath. It's nice to save before interacting so you can go back if you choose one incorrect choice xp
And she needs to wear a shirt with the sentence "I have a cock and I want to use it on you" written front and center, just in case it's not clear enough.
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And the soundtrack has to switch from instrumental to a rap song: "Excuse my Hardness but Could You Please Suck My D?"
I mean, I wouldn't mind a few more references
. Admittedly, more for personal entertainment than as a warning, the game is pretty clear about her interests....Incidentally, now that I've finished the current content again (mostly; for some reason, Alexia's NTR route with Jezera hasn't triggered for me yet despite the fact that I think I fulfilled the requirements...), I have some Thoughts on the new X'Zaratl content. Nothing I'm specifically directing at the writers, by the way, it just happens to be in the same comment. Awkward.
So, originally, X'Zaratl came across (to me, at least) as something of a cheerful airhead; unfailingly sunny, and mostly harmless. Which she obviously wasn't, this is Bloodmeen, but a succubus's appearance rarely matches their danger. New X'Zaratl, by contrast...
Well, I appreciate the fact that she seems smarter, but it makes her initial introduction to Rowan and Alexia come across a bit too weighty to me. Have you ever had a guy you've spoken to twice in your life suddenly talk to you out of the blue about how he's always loved you? It's kind of like that. She's smart enough to know better, but she's still trying to crush you both under the weight of her feelings. She tones it down enough after that, though.
Overall, I think the changes were for the better, but Greyhide may have pulled ahead in the Most Wholesome contest.
Now, about the Succubi Murder Mystery, though... I have a bone to pick with that. Namely, we ask all of these questions, but the player doesn't get a chance to declare who the murderer is before Rowan is told the answer!? I go through all of the trouble of studying the accounts and correctly figure out who killed Ishta (though my reasoning was wrong), but before I can tell the game how clever I am, nooo, miss Clever Succubus has to make sure Rowan knows what's going on. Bah! I say, Bah!
...Okay, so fake outrage aside, though, I really would like a brief moment where Rowan thinks to himself about who's the most likely suspect before it moves into the conclusion. Either way, he's about to be told the answer, so it doesn't really matter... But it would be a nice reward for those who were trying to piece together the mystery.
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Incidentally, X'Zaratl does know who the killer actually is, yes? She's intelligent, and she knows the Cubi in her brood well enough to know what they would and wouldn't do. So was this just some sort of test of hers to see what Rowan would do? If he was smart enough to figure it out as well, and to see whether he'd try to take advantage of the situation if she asked him for help? That makes the implications of trying to make Rylea an informant somewhat... Unpleasant, for that particular Rowan. Probably more painful for Rylea, though.
Oh, and last thought on New!X'Zaratl... I wonder where her storyline goes if Rowan and Alexia's marriage breaks down, or if Alexia ends up on one of the NTR routes? Old!X'Zaratl seems like she would have just been disappointed, but New!X'Zartl doesn't seem that... Passive. Like, she joined this Demon War after snubbing the last one purely so that she could take a shot at the two herself. I could easily see her trying to force them back together, or to kill the person responsible for breaking them up.
EDIT: Oh, wait, there was one more thought - I also liked the event where X'Zaratl and Skordred argue over why Karnas lost. It's always nice to get some new insight on the last war, though I did kind of have to laugh at the "I won the war" option. I mean, it's true, and Rowan gave a good explanation if you pick that option, but... The sheer ego that it would take to say that in reality! And to say it to Skordred, the guy who despises him for having killed Karnas... It reminds me of the Twins attempting diplomacy, in terms of "Bad Ideas".
That will be wayy too subtle for some people. we need something like big red warning button.
Rivina
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That would be fascinating, almost like dueling mind-control. You'd have to be on your toes to keep Alexia from getting so mind broken by being pulled in two directions that she leaps off the outer wall.
Well, that's a bit darker than what I was thinking XD ! I was just imagining her tricking Rowan and Alexia into some romantic dinners, using her succubus powers to dispel their grumpiness long enough to remember that they did genuinely love each other before all of... This. At least in the case of her marriage breaking down; interfering with the NTR routes would probably involve more disrupting the plans of the Twin responsible rather than marriage repair.
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Haha, that too. Mine was more the bad end version but yeah, I could totally see that.
Alexia, black lingerie version: Rowan, what are you doing in Jezera's room?
Rowan: Oh, X'zaratl asked me to come here.
Alexia: X'zaratal, where is Jezera?
X'zaratl: Oh, she's ... Indisposed. *Hides laxatives*
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I have plans for events I like to call xzaratl NTRdetox - one for jezera/alexia route, one for Andras/alexia. Xzaratl in general is planned to be more reactive to what's going on with alexia and rowan than any other character. It's one of the reasons her introduction is so weighty - so more attention could be put into optional reaction events than a linear xzaratl progression plotline.
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Oh, that sounds pretty neat! One question, though...
What if the detox "fails"? Because I do like Alexia and Rowan together, but... I'm not inclined to give up Jezera for it, considering how it broadens Alexia's horizons. Will that lock off future X'Zaratl content, or will she still do her best to enjoy Alexia/Rowan so long as they're otherwise still together and happy? Alexia has to dip below 50 relationship to start the NTR route, but she doesn't have to stay there currently, nor does it prevent their relationship from recovering, so you can enjoy the best of both worlds. Though, I understand if that's more of a "It's a rare situation that's too much trouble to prevent from happening" thing rather than an "intended behavior" thing, and so not worth designing around.
(Also, was the "below 50 relationship" condition always there? If so, I totally forgot about it this time around...)
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So, this has probably been talked about already back when the route was first released, but... Is it just me, or is Werden's route kind of the worst of all worlds? It seems like it could be the best for the Goddess, but nobody else.
The incompetent nobility, who starve the peasantry during the famine, allowed bandits to run unchecked, let the Duke become a Prothean puppet, and allowed you to spend a year conquering the kingdom, are the primary ones who escape. The peasants too unlucky to be born to blue blood or to serve them are left behind for a serious sacking, before being left to the wise guidance of Duke Raeve - a man who was a gutless coward before Jereza graced him with her presence, and who has the mind of a particularly bright turnip now. Patricia wasn't exactly a "people person", but she at least had administrative experience and a vision for how to redesign the city.
Duke Werden, the man who is quite literally responsible for the events of the game (had the Baron given Rowan his keep like he planned, the twins could never have kidnapped him like this) gets out pretty much consequence-free, the only "harm" done to him being that he's forced to bend his pride rather than condemn everyone to death. Marianne, the woman who is likely the one most responsible for the dismal state of kingdom, considering that she was the one making all the real decisions (including sending their only army to its death) also escapes, albeit not likely in a position of power anymore. Jacques, the best hope for change, dies, as does your staunchest non-demonic ally.
And at the end of it all, the hardliners have the best proof possible that any deviation from Solansia's order can't be tolerated; the greatest dirt general did betray them for demons, and their fiercest advocate, Werden, will be a primary figure in cleaning up your mess. How does this end with any chance for fixing any of the dire problems that plagued the kingdom before you set it on fire? It seems that any regime that arises from this will inevitably be a thoroughly reactionary one.
The route might be best for restoring Solansia's order, but I don't really see any way it could end up good, no matter how badly it screws with the Twins. Jacques still seems like the better choice for "good", even if it means you're going to have to do all the heavy lifting to tear down the Twin's new empire.
The incompetent nobility, who starve the peasantry during the famine, allowed bandits to run unchecked, let the Duke become a Prothean puppet, and allowed you to spend a year conquering the kingdom, are the primary ones who escape. The peasants too unlucky to be born to blue blood or to serve them are left behind for a serious sacking, before being left to the wise guidance of Duke Raeve - a man who was a gutless coward before Jereza graced him with her presence, and who has the mind of a particularly bright turnip now. Patricia wasn't exactly a "people person", but she at least had administrative experience and a vision for how to redesign the city.
Duke Werden, the man who is quite literally responsible for the events of the game (had the Baron given Rowan his keep like he planned, the twins could never have kidnapped him like this) gets out pretty much consequence-free, the only "harm" done to him being that he's forced to bend his pride rather than condemn everyone to death. Marianne, the woman who is likely the one most responsible for the dismal state of kingdom, considering that she was the one making all the real decisions (including sending their only army to its death) also escapes, albeit not likely in a position of power anymore. Jacques, the best hope for change, dies, as does your staunchest non-demonic ally.
And at the end of it all, the hardliners have the best proof possible that any deviation from Solansia's order can't be tolerated; the greatest dirt general did betray them for demons, and their fiercest advocate, Werden, will be a primary figure in cleaning up your mess. How does this end with any chance for fixing any of the dire problems that plagued the kingdom before you set it on fire? It seems that any regime that arises from this will inevitably be a thoroughly reactionary one.
The route might be best for restoring Solansia's order, but I don't really see any way it could end up good, no matter how badly it screws with the Twins. Jacques still seems like the better choice for "good", even if it means you're going to have to do all the heavy lifting to tear down the Twin's new empire.
Has one of the commenters who comented to much in this matter, its not just you, the Werden´s route, in the way it is, is a masochistic choice that relies in promises of what it might change in the future, its the one route Rowan gains nothing , the twins are set up has basicly untouchable and all knowing, and it ends with only having things taken away and effort wasted. Excluding things like saying "Rowan weakened the orcs by taking the noble woman", since its not an exclusive of the route, the only result it brings its, all potential allies Rowan made are either dead, worse than dead (Delane) , or hate him (Werden and his people).
It was commented before i think, unless it leads to some great stuff in the future, Werden's route is only there to show that in seeds of chaos, trying to be overly heroic will only leave you beaten and alone where even going lesser "evil" will leave the city in better hands, get you in better graces with the twins, and give you a new girl. You can even save Delane from her fate worse than death by simply not going with Werden and letting her go. Will we ever find her again has a allie? Probably not but she at least gets out of danger for now.
Now, i am sure that some interesting plot will come from werden's route..eventually , i do not know what will it be or if it will be the type of thing i personaly will prefer, but the writers have showed that they know what they are doing.