Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.13a] [Vénus Noire]

[Rein]

Finally a discussion relevant to my interests.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Personally, I’m not super into femdom, but I’m down to play as the mood strikes. I just wouldn’t want it to be the primary focus of the relationship. So, I’ll approach my list from that perspective.

X’zaratl – She takes my top spot because it seems to me her primary goal is to expand your sexual horizons and get you to try new things. Her goal is for you to be having the best sex possible whether she is included or not. Towards this end, some time she will be dom, sometimes she will be sub, other times equals. But one thing she’ll never be is boring.

Alexia – She is similar to X’zaratl in the she takes on different roles in different scenes and like I said I would want to switch things up periodically. However, she is still inexperienced and not confident in her position as a dom so she can really match X’zaratl in that regard.

Jezera – is all dom all the time. Anytime you try to take a dominate or equal position she is quick to put you back in your place. That said as long as you don’t try rise above your station, she can be pretty lighthearted and fun about the whole thing, maybe enough for you to forget the position you in some of the time.

Shaya: once again we get a character that does a bit of everything. She ostensibly is here to serve, so she’ll pretty much fill any role you ask. But we all know who she really serves, so in a way subbing to her is just subbing to Jezera with extra steps. Besides I’d prefer a partner with her own wants and desires.

Clionha – She’s also all dom all the time, but also always serious. Don’t get me wrong being dominated by her would certainly be a pleasurable experience, not that you would get a choice in the matter, but I’m not a fan of not being in control of my own mind. But hey, I guess she could recommend me some good books.

Minor characters – All of these one-off characters would be fine encounters to have but I just don’t know enough about them to know what they would be like in the long term. Though I would take the cave elf over the orcresses because she actually seems fairly nice and reasonable once you get to actually have a conversation with her.

 

[Fleep]

I missed the Valyr and Orcesses scenes. Can you tell me how to get them?

I recall Varylyr scene is triggered randomly when exploring mines in the map, just like the encounter with the three adventurers or any other random map event. The orcesses scenes I can't quite remember how to get it. I know I got it once and then I used the gallery mod to see the scene whenever I wanted to.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Do you remember the whole scene between rowan and shaya? Why is she serving jezera again?

If you are replying to my take on Shaya, keep in mind I was referring to her specifically in respect to ranking femdom characters. While I do suspect that long term Rowan will be able to undermine Shaya and Jezera’s relationship, as the game currently stands you can’t be a sub to Shaya AND undermine their relationship. The two options are mutually exclusive.

If we were talking about ranking characters in a general sense then I would have an entirely different take on her.

 

[gamingdevil800]

If you are replying to my take on Shaya, keep in mind I was referring to her specifically in respect to ranking femdom characters. While I do suspect that long term Rowan will be able to undermine Shaya and Jezera’s relationship, as the game currently stands you can’t be a sub to Shaya AND undermine their relationship. The two options are mutually exclusive.

If we were talking about ranking characters in a general sense then I would have an entirely different take on her.

You've already straight up undermined the Shaya and Jezera relationship already if you chose to confront her at the end of her story.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

You've already straight up undermined the Shaya and Jezera relationship already if you chose to confront her at the end of her story.

Yes, that is the non-submissive route. Femdom is short for "female dominant," as in the female is the dominate partner. But if you confront her, then if anything Rowan becomes the dominate one.

The other option is to not confront her (or not gather enough clues do be able to) in which case she she uses hypnotic drugs to make you submissive to her and through her to Jezera as well.

Of the two I actually prefer the path in which Rowan confronts her however, since the discussion at the time was about what characters you like in a femdom role, the path in which she is not dominate wasn't really relative to the discussion.

 

[Rein]

"How do you like your femdoms?"
"Broken and submissive."

 

[gamingdevil800]

Yes, that is the non-submissive route. Femdom is short for "female dominant," as in the female is the dominate partner. But if you confront her, then if anything Rowan becomes the dominate one.

The other option is to not confront her (or not gather enough clues do be able to) in which case she she uses hypnotic drugs to make you submissive to her and through her to Jezera as well.

Of the two I actually prefer the path in which Rowan confronts her however, since the discussion at the time was about what characters you like in a femdom role, the path in which she is not dominate wasn't really relative to the discussion.

Pretty much if you choose any serious femdom paths Rowan is going to lose out in the long run, Clionha's sounded especially ominous to me with the invisible collar thing. Killed by Jezera/Andras at the end cause they no longer need you, mindless slave, cucked for life or etc

 

[Vodayo]

Any news about Juliet? I accepted this precius gift and nothing

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Pretty much if you choose any serious femdom paths Rowan is going to lose out in the long run, Clionha's sounded especially ominous to me with the invisible collar thing. Killed by Jezera/Andras at the end cause they no longer need you, mindless slave, cucked for life or etc
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I mean...yeah... That is kind of the point of all the corruption/dom story lines.

In a way that is the genius of corruption based porn games.
You want to see some sexy pictures? Just make the obviously bad choice.
Hmm I probably shouldn't do this...but it is my main fetish...how bad could it really be..?

But it just a game so, if people want to fulfill their fetishes instead of saving fictional characters that is their choice to make. Making bad choices and getting a bad end is still a valid way to play the game.

Any news about Juliet? I accepted this precius gift and nothing

I'm sure we'll be seeing more of her in Act 2, but there isn't really enough left in the main story for Act 1 for her to have much more importance.

 

[Fleep]

If you submit to all the girls (or most) it should turn into a good end where each girl thinks she has you on the palm of her hand and is gonna take advantage of it to defeat the other girls only to find out they can't use you against the others because they're also your dommes. Chaos ensures. Only you can choose who to help, or choose none and rise as victor!

 

[Oriandu]

I feel like literally the only sub relationship that wouldn't absolutely go to shit for Rowan would be if Cla-Min decided she was up for one, and only because her particular clan is matriarchal. Every other possible femdom partner for Rowan is... corrupt or corruptible. In general most relationships that Rowan is not either an equal partner in or in control of do not look like they'd end well for him, regardless of whether or not he's the sub in the relationship. The same can be said for Alexia.

 

[kartolas]

How does one heal Rowan's DMG?

 

[T51bwinterized]

In my defense (and Shaya's). I'm not really a F/m Femdom writer. It doesn't do anything to me. I can write Lesdom and just domination generally. But, I probably wouldn't vibe with the material the way Rein would.

 

[monk_56]

In my defense (and Shaya's). I'm not really a F/m Femdom writer. It doesn't do anything to me. I can write Lesdom and just domination generally. But, I probably wouldn't vibe with the material the way Rein would.

For me at least the best fem-dom arcs also have a component of romance and stay in the bedroom without extending to other facets of life- which is why X'zaratls tops the list.

Ignoring the fact that I vastly prefer male-dom and egalitarian arcs to fem-dom baseline, Shaya's femdom arc was set up to fail for me from the start. Since she is A) Doming Rowan for the purpose of bending him to Jezera's will and not just to have sexy times and B) It didn't have romance vibes. Its a good pathing if you like your character to be a broken bitch and it is well written- it might not be in your wheelhouse since you are the lord of maledom content- but it is still good.

You haven't even gotten to really write much of the Shaya fem-dom type content yet since the first time it came up was one path of the finale.

But yeah, the other side of the pathing for Shaya is a masterpiece. You have dom / romance vibes. The player got to live out some Noir by going through all their conclusions. There was hand-holding. Feels like the player might be able to Netori Jezera, which will be incredibly satisfying.

 

[demonhuntercrow]

wish there was gender bender

 

[kamuk_4185]

How to get the Andras Alexia scene in the prologue?

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

I feel like literally the only sub relationship that wouldn't absolutely go to shit for Rowan would be if Cla-Min decided she was up for one, and only because her particular clan is matriarchal. Every other possible femdom partner for Rowan is... corrupt or corruptible. In general most relationships that Rowan is not either an equal partner in or in control of do not look like they'd end well for him, regardless of whether or not he's the sub in the relationship. The same can be said for Alexia.

I think that with a couple exceptions any relationship with castle denizens is bad for a “heroic” Rowan. Ones in which he is actually manipulating or using them it would be fine, but actually getting close to most these people is not healthy for him to be doing.

X’zaratl is a good example, she is friendly, and likely thinks she has Rowan’s best interests at heart. But what she thinks are his best interest and what a pure, clear headed, Rowan would think are his best interest likely don’t align in the long term.

How does one heal Rowan's DMG?

After the DMG bar fills up it will become a “Wound.” You can then buy a wound cure in Cla’min’s shop. There is no way to actively remove DMG before it becomes a wound.

How to get the Andras Alexia scene in the prologue?

When Andras tells Alexia that Rowan isn’t coming and propositions her, Alexia has the option to have “absolutely no interest in him” or to “seriously consider his offer.” You have to consider his offer (she won’t has sex with him if she is not interested in sex with him). You need choose to allow NTR content. In their next interaction (in week 2) after the truth has come out, she has the option to “slap him” or “kiss him.” If you kiss him it leads to some hate-fucking.

 

[kartolas]

After the DMG bar fills up it will become a “Wound.” You can then buy a wound cure in Cla’min’s shop. There is no way to actively remove DMG before it becomes a wound.

Thank you.

 

[justahorse]

For me at least the best fem-dom arcs also have a component of romance and stay in the bedroom without extending to other facets of life- which is why X'zaratls tops the list.

I agree with you that X'zaratls is tops for me as well.

I like femdom in the context that there is still affection involved. The X'zaratls/Alexia scenes where Alexia is tieing up Rowan are examples of where the affection is still clear and pronounced.

I think in general there is too much of a gender stereotype with females being submissive, and I don't think femdom where there is clear evil goals like Clionha, Jezera, and Shaya are exactly breaking that stereotype as much as reinforcing that femdom is bad on a surface level view.

I still enjoy all those characters, and Jezera especially has fantastic content because while she is undoubtedly evil and trying to control Rowan/Alexia; she seems to also want to give them some empowerment, control, and a type of affection as long as they are good pets. I don't doubt for a second Jezera would crack the whip if they misbehaved, but the fact that she's also giving them pleasure when they are controlled makes the arc good for me.

Ultimately I enjoy seeing fem dom more so because I like seeing strong female characters more so than the actual kink to it imo.