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I really want to like this game, but I just get lost in the lack of direction. There aren't enough missions, and I feel like it would be helpful to know that you are pissing off the twins before they decide to kill you off. This would allow the MC to change course and keep his head.

Also, how come the wife doesn't evolve with the depravity? With all of the sex and exploring that she does, I'd assume she would also begin to embrace all the sexual exploits, rather than getting pissed at the MC for banging out half the kingdom...
 

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This plotline got dropped, I'm afraid.
It can't be saved? Like convince Jezera or Andras to make Arthdale some kind of Human Resource Center for general purpose in Bloodmeen, their inhabitants becomes slaves in the town, affected by magic studies, the vigilance of the guy of the Breeding Pits and with the help of X'zaralt's Cubies, make the population adapt to become in human breeders, making humans of rapid grow (with their intelligence and loyalty adjusted) for general purposes for Bloodmeen, cattle for being eaten by monsters and orcs or other creatures, whores, servants, spies, soldier stocks... Whatever imaginable for Bloodmeen, this happens meanwhile some mercenary families live in the surface to maintain the appearances but underground... If Rowan insists in the reconstruction and becoming desperate for being unable to discard the idea by convincing the nobles, The Twins would do this for the suffering of Rowan for trying to convince his masters to help Arthdale in their reconstruction >;v
 
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She does; Alexia has different reactions to lot of things based on her corruption level, much like Rowan for this matter.
In the moment yes, but then a few encounters later, I got scolded by her for fucking the Elf secretary, and then had another encounter where she scolded me for banging out my old student and making her my sex slave. I guess watching her husband getting fucked by some Ox Blacksmith isn't her line, but banging the secretary is?
 

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In the moment yes
No, it's something prevalent in the game. She'll have different reaction to your fucking the elf secretary etc depending on her own corruption level and/or potential affairs. This doesn't mean she's just going to roll her eyes and not care at all about your fucking other people.
 
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So I reached to point where I conquer Rastadel for the twins, but the main objective still remains conquering the city. I got a scene where Jezera turns the priestess into a living stone and nothing after that. Is it the end of the current version? I remember playing this game more than 2 yars ago and reaching the Rastadel at that point too. This surely cannot be the case that after 2 years of development the sotry moved so little. Am I missing something? I'm on 3.08
 

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Is it the end of the current version? I remember playing this game more than 2 yars ago and reaching the Rastadel at that point too. This surely cannot be the case that after 2 years of development the sotry moved so little.
Yes, alas.
 

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So I reached to point where I conquer Rastadel for the twins, but the main objective still remains conquering the city. I got a scene where Jezera turns the priestess into a living stone and nothing after that. Is it the end of the current version? I remember playing this game more than 2 yars ago and reaching the Rastadel at that point too. This surely cannot be the case that after 2 years of development the sotry moved so little. Am I missing something? I'm on 3.08
That's all for now
 

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I recognize that the sheer scope of the game, should it maintain the current model, is frankly speaking unwieldy to work with. As we ponder Act 2, I do believe we will be looking into streamlining the content so the sideplots play a bigger role in the overall narrative.
You mean everything will be incorporated in goblin plot-line? :HideThePain:
 
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Holy shit, with over 2k patreons and steam sales this is just mind boggling. If I take into account the fact that there are sill 5 untouched regions, this game will finish in no less than a decade lmao. Not to mention it's gonna be one of the most expensive game ever to develop.
It is, however, a misleading point of view. Saying that they're at the same point after 2 years would suggest that they didn't progress at all. What happened, instead, is that they rushed to go to the endpoint of part 1 (the fall of Rastedel), leaving big plotholes and incomplete storylines on the way, in a rather patchwork development. Filling the significantly large gaps and changing the approach to the development of the game has been quite the work!
 

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It is, however, a misleading point of view. Saying that they're at the same point after 2 years would suggest that they didn't progress at all. What happened, instead, is that they rushed to go to the endpoint of part 1 (the fall of Rastedel), leaving big plotholes and incomplete storylines on the way, in a rather patchwork development. Filling the significantly large gaps and changing the approach to the development of the game has been quite the work!
This is also half truth.
Game in development since 2016 so it was not by any means "rushed" to anything.
Game progress slow but steady.
SoC was envisioned by Arioch as much more ambitious project but along the way hard reality knocked at the door and many ideas was thrown away, like we can see RPG elements (equipment, character lvl and stats that some form of battle system).
They were also inexperienced with Ren-py and code was terrible so they reworked a lot of it, the same with art design all the old CG got face lift.
Actually they still work on implementing reasonable map.

So basically they made some mistakes and didn't plane properly how to tie everything together from the beginning + change thier mind few times on some of the old stuff. Rewrite lots of older stories.

This why we see no progress of main plot line.
The problem is they could have easily drop fey or goblin side plots and move on with main story but they keep on adding new optional stuff that create this painfully slow no progress feeling.
This why we probably wont see any story moving forward in any meaningful way for another year or so.
 

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From what I can see from not playing the game for a while, I think version 3.02 then playing a bit of version of 3.07 the game has had a major rework in so many aspects that its almost a completely different game.

Just the intro of the game was way different in almost every aspect.

While the basic structure of the intro was the same, Rowan talks to elder, goes home fucks Alexia, Jezra tricks him into the forest and fights orcs, he rushes back to town to find it being laid to waste, he travels to Bloodmeen, gets captured, and then helps capture the town with the elder again.

Almost every single part of those scenes had been rewritten and the choices you made gave you more unique dialogue. I was surprised at the part when the elder finally dies in 3.07 that you now have the option too make the elder be partially sympathetic to Rowan compared to the original scene where the elder was just completely spiteful and it felt so cold blooded to kill the elder. Also makes the elder feel a lot more wiser and a better character than just the overused trope of 1 dimensional with no personality random NPCs only purpose is to die and be emotional damage to main character.

They also changed the dungeon scene when Rowan first gets captured, its way shorter and less repetitive, or maybe I just chose to give in faster and didn't have to see the extended scene of where they repeatedly tortured him for no reason for weeks on end despite wanting to submit earlier on.

But point is choices actually matter now compared to before where your choice didn't matter much and only gave you like a couple line of extra dialogue then merging back into the same exact dialogue versus now where the scenes plays out completely different.

They also redid a lot of the art to make it look more consistent, but some it is still mismatched. I also personally don't like some of the reworked art cause they made Rowan so thick and beefy compared to his original artwork where he was skinnier and a bit more feminine looking. But that's beside the point.

They also redid the trait / RPG system, which I haven't gotten to yet but look forward to.

So it is pretty evident that they did a ton of work in the past 2 years. So while the ending point of the story hasn't progressed, the details between the start and end of story has been almost completely rewritten from what I can tell.
 
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From what I can see from not playing the game for a while, I think version 3.02 then playing a bit of version of 3.07 the game has had a major rework in so many aspects that its almost a completely different game.

Just the intro of the game was way different in almost every aspect.
It's actually just the intro that got the overhaul. What you get afterwards remains roughly the same, with some bits pruned and some added.

It's pretty easy to check and compare if one's willing -- the free build of the game at itch.io is 0.2.47, from 3 years ago (it was posted in September 2019)
 
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