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can someone teach me this kind of game never play this kind of game before i dont understand anything i just go do mission and walk walk and buy something then i die idk what i have to do or maybe save file or something?
 

Caspicious

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can someone teach me this kind of game never play this kind of game before i dont understand anything i just go do mission and walk walk and buy something then i die idk what i have to do or maybe save file or something?
Try not to skip scenes and read thoroughly, The Twins will give out objectives by week 4, that being to have at least 500 gold in the treasury and at least have conquered Raeve keep before week 22.

Follow the road closely as there are a lot of villages there you can occupy or trade with but dont let the road keep you feel free to explore. Just be sure to have a significant force or a spy from the brothel be fore week 19 or 20 to take the Raeve keep. then the next turn limit is week 60.
 
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From MDN's twitter. Wonder who the mystery futa is.
It's interesting that they are still commissioning new futa nemesis art. Obviously, they intend to to add the nemesis system and most of her content all at once in a future update, probably because the nemesis system is one of the game's unique selling points.
 
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Is there a map mode? I can't seem to find the capital, also the wagon could be bugged? the items have no pictures on them or prices some are red and I can pick the rest for free it seems? this is very confusing.
 

Semantics

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I mean, we're spread, but I don't think "spread thin" quite describes the state of affairs at all. In the past year we included 50 sex scenes, and nearly 70 CGs. I have attempted to break that down elsewhere, but the take away has generally been this. The content for the different variations is reasonably balanced.

There is at least 8 new M/M scenes. At least 10 NTR/Cheating Scenes. At least 15 scenes of Rowan having sex with a woman, some of which are dominant and some of which are submissive. Some scenes like Delane's corruption and Prince of Tomes that lacks an explicit pairing. At least 5 F/F scenes.

Now let me ask you. How many 2D games do you know of put in even 25 sex scenes and 30 CGs per month? Most of the ones who do tend to employ much smaller and less in-depth sex scenes as well. Dialogue only instead of dialogue+description.

This is to say that if you took HALF of Seeds of Chaos, it would still be a rather content-full experience. So, let me ask? Look at the scene list (if you have access to it as a result of being a patron). Do you enjoy half the content?
Having followed the game for a looooooooooong while and seen various complaints about it, I think there's a combination of issues.

First is that no matter how much content you put out, when you put out content someone doesn't like, even optional content, they'll still look at that and go, "But you could have done X that I would have liked instead." Call it seeing the fetish half empty. I think it's unfair, at least when the content you don't like is as easily avoidable as it is in this game, especially since the end goal for a game is the final version, not the next monthly update. By the time this game is finished, judging from how close the end feels (Feels pretty far away still), there'll be a huge amount of all the content in the game, enough you could easily split it off into a game based around each fetish. But for those who view things that way, "Do you enjoy half the content?" sadly isn't an argument that will sway them.

The second issue is that what's in an update can swing wildly. To use the changelogs as an example, in 0.2.39, you added Rowan x Delane, Jezera x NPC, Alexia x Greyhide, Alexia futa solo, with a new X'zaratl event. So, anyone here for the M/F Rowan content like myself might have just taken that month off. (I didn't, because Delane, but that says more about how much I like Delane than anything else.) Meanwhile, 0.2.37 was a smorgasbord of Rowan content. Rowan x Liural x Alexia, Rowan x Emma, Rowan x Delane, Shaya solo. Even the non-sex scenes focus on Rowan interacting with others very heavily, with Delane's escape and three new Fey events. Obviously game updates would be pretty odd if they were tailored to "Have a certain split of content each month," but when a couple months in a row happen with less of some content, I imagine those considering becoming a patron or who already are one feel a bit put off. So while it's unfair, it is a bit more understandable. I'd argue it does come from mistakenly viewing Patreon as a "Pay for something you want" site rather than a "Support something you want to see completed/completed faster" site, but that's an entire can of worms itself.

Is there a map mode? I can't seem to find the capital, also the wagon could be bugged? the items have no pictures on them or prices some are red and I can pick the rest for free it seems? this is very confusing.
There's no full-on map, but the capital is pretty easy to find via the roads. The quickest way is the northern portal near Orcaid, and then just following the road east. Otherwise from the castle, follow the road north-west, cross the...I feel like there's a river there?, and then turn east.

As to the wagon, sadly the shop UI is kinda meh right now. Red means you can't afford it, but the rest shouldn't actually be free, they should just be some amount you can afford. But until you buy them you can't really tell how much they cost or what they do.

Second edit, wee: One thing you can do, if you enable the console, is select a zoom out option while on the map, which can give you a huge overview, and turn fog of war off. If you're just downright lost trying to find something, can be useful, but shouldn't be needed for the capital.
 

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Having followed the game for a looooooooooong while and seen various complaints about it, I think there's a combination of issues.

First is that no matter how much content you put out, when you put out content someone doesn't like, even optional content, they'll still look at that and go, "But you could have done X that I would have liked instead." Call it seeing the fetish half empty. I think it's unfair, at least when the content you don't like is as easily avoidable as it is in this game, especially since the end goal for a game is the final version, not the next monthly update. By the time this game is finished, judging from how close the end feels (Feels pretty far away still), there'll be a huge amount of all the content in the game, enough you could easily split it off into a game based around each fetish. But for those who view things that way, "Do you enjoy half the content?" sadly isn't an argument that will sway them.

The second issue is that what's in an update can swing wildly. To use the changelogs as an example, in 0.2.39, you added Rowan x Delane, Jezera x NPC, Alexia x Greyhide, Alexia futa solo, with a new X'zaratl event. So, anyone here for the M/F Rowan content like myself might have just taken that month off. (I didn't, because Delane, but that says more about how much I like Delane than anything else.) Meanwhile, 0.2.37 was a smorgasbord of Rowan content. Rowan x Liural x Alexia, Rowan x Emma, Rowan x Delane, Shaya solo. Even the non-sex scenes focus on Rowan interacting with others very heavily, with Delane's escape and three new Fey events. Obviously game updates would be pretty odd if they were tailored to "Have a certain split of content each month," but when a couple months in a row happen with less of some content, I imagine those considering becoming a patron or who already are one feel a bit put off. So while it's unfair, it is a bit more understandable. I'd argue it does come from mistakenly viewing Patreon as a "Pay for something you want" site rather than a "Support something you want to see completed/completed faster" site, but that's an entire can of worms itself.



There's no full-on map, but the capital is pretty easy to find via the roads. The quickest way is the northern portal near Orcaid, and then just following the road east. Otherwise from the castle, follow the road north-west, cross the...I feel like there's a river there?, and then turn east.

As to the wagon, sadly the shop UI is kinda meh right now. Red means you can't afford it, but the rest shouldn't actually be free, they should just be some amount you can afford. But until you buy them you can't really tell how much they cost or what they do.

Second edit, wee: One thing you can do, if you enable the console, is select a zoom out option while on the map, which can give you a huge overview, and turn fog of war off. If you're just downright lost trying to find something, can be useful, but shouldn't be needed for the capital.
Thanks! how do you open up the console?
 

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hi, im playing this game for a few days now, but somehow some of scene didnt appear, just black screen and dialogue box. im also trying play at my mac and windows pc and te result are same. little dissappointed since many blackscreen is on sex scene, such as alexia with andras or with greyhide. anyone know how to fix it??
 

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Thanks! how do you open up the console?
You can edit the files yourself to enable them, but the easiest way is to search F95 for the "unren.bat" thread and download that. That unlocks Console and Dev Menu on renpy games, which you can open via Shift+O and Shift+D respectively, but this game has a lot of built-in stuff that just outright unlocks when Console/Dev is enabled, such as the map options mentioned, a scene jumper, etc. The map stuff pops up when you're on the map, the rest is accessed from Rowan's room. You can also find various codes if you search the thread for "console."

hi, im playing this game for a few days now, but somehow some of scene didnt appear, just black screen and dialogue box. im also trying play at my mac and windows pc and te result are same. little dissappointed since many blackscreen is on sex scene, such as alexia with andras or with greyhide. anyone know how to fix it??
Not all scenes have CGs right now. If the screen is black, it's not because something's broken, it's because that CG isn't drawn yet, and won't be in until a later release.
 
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Does anyone have the 0.2.40 CG extracted?
As I understand the CGs for the game aren't all complete atm, doubt anyone will post them in a while. Remember reading devs wanted to advance the game, later placing more CGs where necessary...

If you want to take a look yourself check out section, for e.g. the UnRen.bat tool to open and depack the .rpa archive of Ren'Py games.
- In the contents you will find a folder named 'images' or similar when unpacked. It's a bingo, you got 'em!
- Repack the CGs into an archive, post them here if you want. Others may like to see those too. And so you earn a like. ;)

btw welcome to the forums dbs. Hope you are enjoying your stay here. Have fun! If you got questions don't hesitate to ask. :)
 

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You can edit the files yourself to enable them, but the easiest way is to search F95 for the "unren.bat" thread and download that. That unlocks Console and Dev Menu on renpy games, which you can open via Shift+O and Shift+D respectively, but this game has a lot of built-in stuff that just outright unlocks when Console/Dev is enabled, such as the map options mentioned, a scene jumper, etc. The map stuff pops up when you're on the map, the rest is accessed from Rowan's room. You can also find various codes if you search the thread for "console."



Not all scenes have CGs right now. If the screen is black, it's not because something's broken, it's because that CG isn't drawn yet, and won't be in until a later release.
:( too bad. I really want to see when alexia penetrated by greyhide
 

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Alright, a short response to some of the earlier posts, since I feel bad for leaving people hanging.

These original scenes are noticeably more hardcore because they're exempt from the corruption progression. We go from hardcore cheating sex to handjobs.
I will concede there is some merit to what you’ve said, as much as it pains me to do so.

The problem with SoC is the scope of the game. It’s pretty damn massive, and the scale of the conflict that is being presented in it rivals that of Game of Thrones. And this reflects itself in the nature of the scenes – you are not running a sprint here, you are running a marathon. The scenes can’t go from high octane fuckfesta to another high octane fuckfesta. They have to go Build up -> Climax -> Build up -> Climax – Build up -> Climax, in accordance to preplanned character arcs. This can be a bit of a problem, especially if you want to give the players some choice as to what events they want to see.

I will agree I might have focused a little bit too much on writing build up scenes, because, in all honesty, I love the buildup scenes more than the sex scenes.

The mental struggle! The internal dialogue! The logic gymnastics that accompany the main character as it’s torn between their outdated morality and their growing decadence! The feeling of the walls closing in on them, the pressure, and the growing belief that the only way to proceed Is to descent further into corruption, turning a blind eye on the possibilities of redemption, silencing that quiet voice in your head that tells you that resistance IS possible, that the enemy CAN be fought, and that staying true to your ideals is worth every sacrifice!

That’s the stuff that keeps me going. The sex scene is a nice reward, but without context, it’s just any other smut.

That being said, again, I will concede I indulged myself a little bit too much here, so I think I’ll be doing some hardcore Andras for the next update…

Some other examples of this are the Emma scenes. I mean, they don't really matter at all. They seem to exist just to check the pregnancy fetish off early in the game. Rowan doesn't really grow or change and she certainly doesn't matter.
Not all of Rowan’s growth occurs through predetermined story event.

At the start of the game, the player gets to decide what drives Rowan. And afterwards, it is up to them to decide whether or not they want to stay true to that ideal.

You can start the game saying you’re doing this for Alexia, and then let Andras toss her into a pit with Wullump with no opposition.
You can start the game saying you’re just bidding your time, and then indulge in every depravity possible, until nothing of your soul remains.
You can start the game saying Jezera managed to convince you, only to realize what a horryfing world you’re building here, and turn around mid way.

Many stories have a… Linear character arc. Like, you have to decide at the start of the game if you want to be good or bad, and roll with that, because that’s how you get the most out of the content. It’s easier that way, but that’s not what we’d ideally like to do. Ideally, it would benefit if Rowan was able to have a realization about his choices and behavior midway, and might seek to change his ways.

That was the point of the Emma scene. He is met with a woman that was raped into a Stockholm syndrome, and confronted with the reality this is more or less what he’s going to perpetuate from now. It’s up to the player to decide whether or not they want Rowan to keep committing atrocities with feeble moral justification.

Also, I do like to give the patreons some freedom over what characters they will see in the future. In a year from now, when the main plot is rolling steadily, I do want to reach out to our backers and ask them which of the small NPCs like, Emma or Dazzanath, they would like to be enriched with a castle plot of their own.

Ideally.


That being said:

I just really feel the beginning of the story has much more intense scenes, and that you should try to replicate them as much as possible to get more patrons.
I’ll keep your words in mind. But do remember that a 3CG sex scene is *not* cheap. It’s something we can indulge when we KNOW the player will stumble upon. We can’t just do it for everything.

I wish constructive criticism paid for artworks, but sadly, it does not :D

I love the scenes, but I feel like this game just needs a no-story-full-technical update where you can play the first part of the game and actually play it. There's so many resources and stat checks in the game that still go unused or that don't really work yet we're about to enter into the second act of the story
We’re on it. The skill rework is taking a bit long, but it’s still on the planning list.


Alright, now back to writing butt stuff.
 

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I wonder if there are any plans for Rowan to match Andras' physical prowess, perhaps, blessings from Kharos, making him a vampire, gaining magical abilities, or would he rely on machinations of his mind to defeat Andras
 
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