Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.13a] [Vénus Noire]

[Gicoo]

How Che-Lin fits into those endings, assuming it's still the plan to include her in them in some way if you do her events, is unclear. I'd imagine bad things would happen to her in Zii-Zii's ending and she'd be an advisor to Tue-Row in the others. If the plan for the goblin arc has changed and you can only decide if you're primarily dealing with Tue-Row, Tue-San, Zii-Zii or Che-Lin, then I'd say you're probably closer to mark and Che-Lin will find some way to diminish or neutralize Tue-Row in her ending. Until Rein or whoever gets thrown at the goblin arc next gets more scenes in though, all we can do is speculate.

I assume the four endings mirror the four outcomes of the orc arc, as well as the four possible directions the game seems to go (Rowan gets power on his own / warhungry with Andras / scheming with Jezera / sabotaging the twins from the inside).

Tue-Row/Ulcro - Rowan got a "friend" of his as a leader, who much more respects him rather the twins. Ideal if Rowan wants to accumulate power and overthrow the twins and rule himself instead.
Batri/Zii-Zii - War-hungry Goblins that greatly increase the army, Andras will be pleased.
Tue-San/Tarish - Cunningfull woman gets on top, Jezera will be pleased
Delane/Che-Lin - Recruited faction won't obey twins and are unsuitable for war, twins get hindered and are mad at Rowan, ideal if Rowan wants to sabotage the twins and end up relatively good

 

[MasterBlaxter]

I assume the four endings mirror the four outcomes of the orc arc, as well as the four possible directions the game seems to go (Rowan gets power on his own / warhungry with Andras / scheming with Jezera / sabotaging the twins from the inside).

Tue-Row/Ulcro - Rowan got a "friend" of his as a leader, who much more respects him rather the twins. Ideal if Rowan wants to accumulate power and overthrow the twins and rule himself instead.
Batri/Zii-Zii - War-hungry Goblins that greatly increase the army, Andras will be pleased.
Tue-San/Tarish - Cunningfull woman gets on top, Jezera will be pleased
Delane/Che-Lin - Recruited faction won't obey twins and are unsuitable for war, twins get hindered and are mad at Rowan, ideal if Rowan wants to sabotage the twins and end up relatively good

I don't think the potential goblin allies map onto the orc outcomes very much. Tue-Row and Tue-San are willing to ally with Rowan over the twins, and I suspect Che-Lin will be as well. Zii-Zii is the only goblin leader that's excited to work with demons. Tue-San dislikes and distrusts Jezera. Che-Lin will probably be a moderating force on Tue-Row if you pick her ending, but I expect he'll still be calling the shots and he's supportive of the twins war because he wants to use it to reclaim the goblin's ancestral lands.

I also don't think there's a Delane equivalent in the goblin arc, if you mean an option to deliberately spoil the twins plans and screw over every potential ally. Seems like Rowan will end up with a goblin ruler that will be indebted to him over the twins regardless of which green ass is warming the throne in Blackholdt by the end of the arc. I'd guess that's intentional, since Jezera never bothers following up on Rowan's activities after the initial meet and greet and that gives him room to get devious on her if he wants to.

 

[Gicoo]

I don't think the potential goblin allies map onto the orc outcomes very much.

Ulcro and Tarish aren't to railed up about the demons either, but to keep power, you gotta do it. Only Bartri is high spirited for glory.

Tue-Row and Tue-San are willing to ally with Rowan over the twins

So do Ulcro and Tarish.

Tue-San dislikes and distrusts Jezera.

Because they are the same kind, so she is especially wary. She is projecting. Its not about getting friendly with Andras or Jezera, but sharing their respective mindset about leadership. Which is very indicative in the past storylines - Bartri, Zii-Zii and Jacque vs Tarish, Tue-San and Patricia.

Che-Lin will probably be a moderating force on Tue-Row if you pick her ending, but I expect he'll still be calling the shots and he's supportive of the twins war because he wants to use it to reclaim the goblin's ancestral lands.

We don't know. If Che-Lin still refuses to get with Tue-Row back, then its possible Rowan siding with her means disposing of him and Zii-Zii, then the Goblins unite under Che-Lin, but are peacefull, thus ruining the twins plans to have another army. Which would end up as a comparable result to the Delane plotline.

I'd guess that's intentional, since Jezera never bothers following up on Rowan's activities after the initial meet and greet and that gives him room to get devious on her if he wants to.

Neither die Andras with the orcs. He came with Rowan to the camp, asked for the leader, was told that there are leadership issues and multiple leaders could rise in the near future, so he just noped out and let his servant deal with that mess. Jezera did the exact same thing at the beginning of the goblin arc.

 

[Kisama33]

I assume the four endings mirror the four outcomes of the orc arc, as well as the four possible directions the game seems to go (Rowan gets power on his own / warhungry with Andras / scheming with Jezera / sabotaging the twins from the inside).

Tue-Row/Ulcro - Rowan got a "friend" of his as a leader, who much more respects him rather the twins. Ideal if Rowan wants to accumulate power and overthrow the twins and rule himself instead.
Batri/Zii-Zii - War-hungry Goblins that greatly increase the army, Andras will be pleased.
Tue-San/Tarish - Cunningfull woman gets on top, Jezera will be pleased
Delane/Che-Lin - Recruited faction won't obey twins and are unsuitable for war, twins get hindered and are mad at Rowan, ideal if Rowan wants to sabotage the twins and end up relatively good

That's pretty much how I imagined it too, but to be more specific the Tue-San ending would require Tue-Row to be dead at some point forcing her to take the throne as it was meant to be from the start so she can ensure revenge against the responsible(s) for Tue-Row dead while doing her best to fulfill his dream.

But for context the Chen-Lin ending will not result in the same outcome than the Delane ending, going this route will lead to failure in recruiting the Goblin Army, since you only need one, the orc army is more than enough to avoid the "Game Over" scenario. And that doesn't mean that Rowan can't keep some connections with it or even something like a debt where he can make use of it in the future for his own motifs.

 

[TremerePupil]

How do I progress the fey storyline? I already had 3 dreams with the Heartsong but nothing more.
Also how do I get the option to visit X'zaratl after the Astarte war council (currently I have no options at all) and finish the Grudge of the Thorns after talking with the twins?

 

[360 Danny DeVitos Later]

With the amount of thirst to flaphammer gobbos in this thread Nasim should've made an Alexia goblin instead of an Alexia orc. I'm pretty sure half of SOC's playerbase would've died from dehydration and friction burns though.

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The first finished one's here.

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[Shaska]

with Tue-San getting an additional one during the wedding if you chose her path

Wait, how do you choose her path? I sided with her on the assassin part, she agreed to a deal with Rowan. I didnt attack caravan with Zii and couldn't do much after 2nd encounter with Che-Lin. Tue-Row still married Zii and Tue-San was unhappy with that, so she told me I had alternative I didn't pick. But I didn't really get anything else to do with the topic and the wedding just happened.

 

[MalcontentedDick]

I think I'm only like halfway through but does Rowan do anythingh with that gaggle of voyeur succubi? Because not going to lie I thought that was leading to him fucking all three down the line and starting to think it ain't happening and there may be some measure of disappointment I ain't getting to cuck Alexia with a all night succubus fuckbang.

Motherfucker has a dark fortress full of women in desperate need of his cock and doesn't "save" them, some fucking hero he is.

 

[Gicoo]

Wait, how do you choose her path? I sided with her on the assassin part, she agreed to a deal with Rowan. I didnt attack caravan with Zii and couldn't do much after 2nd encounter with Che-Lin. Tue-Row still married Zii and Tue-San was unhappy with that, so she told me I had alternative I didn't pick. But I didn't really get anything else to do with the topic and the wedding just happened.

You can't choose hers yet. Only Tue-Rows vision can't be fullfilled currently, not Zii-Ziis, Che-Lins or Tue-Sans.

I think I'm only like halfway through but does Rowan do anythingh with that gaggle of voyeur succubi?

No, maybe there will be something later? At the very least, Alexia can fuck her.

 

[Miriada]

True Goblin Achievement Ending:

1. Tell Che-Lin you'll deal with Tue-Row -> Betray Che-Lin
2. Tell Tue-Row you'll deal with Zii-Zii -> Betray Tue-Row
3. Tell Zii-Zii you'll deal with Tue-San -> Betray Zii-Zii
4. Tell Tue-San you'll avenge the deaths -> Frame Tue-San of everything

 

[Shaska]

You can't choose hers yet. Only Tue-Rows vision can't be fullfilled currently, not Zii-Ziis, Che-Lins or Tue-Sans.

I see. Game gets kinda messy around the 70 week battle part, but I suppose these things happen when stuff is still in development. Honestly I don't even know if i didn't fk up something because everyone was surprised about the fight coming and twins were disappointed in the spies or something, despite me having no more options in Rastadel at that point.

 

[Goading]

True Goblin Achievement Ending:

1. Tell Che-Lin you'll deal with Tue-Row -> Betray Che-Lin
2. Tell Tue-Row you'll deal with Zii-Zii -> Betray Tue-Row
3. Tell Zii-Zii you'll deal with Tue-San -> Betray Zii-Zii
4. Tell Tue-San you'll avenge the deaths -> Frame Tue-San of everything

I think you mean:
1. Tell Che-Lin you will help her with her lack of broods -> Impregnate Che-Lin
2. Tell Zii-Zii you’re going to dominate her until she conceives -> Impregnate Zii-Zii
3. Tell Tue-San she can dom you again after tampering with her birth control reagents -> Impregnate Tue-San
4. Tell Tue-Row there is something behind him -> Backstab Tue-Row
5. Marry them all to become goblin king and have a big happy family with hundreds of children -> Alexia seethes uncontrollably

 

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5. Marry them all to become goblin king and have a big happy family with hundreds of children -> Alexia seethes uncontrollably

"Alexia becomes the goblin queen and conceives hundreds of goblin children."
There, corrected that for you.

 

[Goading]

"Alexia becomes the goblin queen and conceives hundreds of goblin children."
There, corrected that for you.

That would be hilarious, Tue-Row’s fanatical obsession with Rowan warps so out of control he does anything possible to be more like him, including fucking and stealing his wife.

 

[Gicoo]

That would be hilarious, Tue-Row’s fanatical obsession with Rowan warps so out of control he does anything possible to be more like him, including fucking and stealing his wife.

Well, thats because he wants to marry Zii-Zii in the first place. She is a wild redhead, the Goblin equivalent of Alexia.

 

[okamisamy]

this game seriously needs to explore more options like why do you force me to play a submissive cuck this is not the evil guy that I imagined playing or the kind of corruption that I pictured, I thought I would be playing a hero turned villain like turning on his country or the world and siding with demons to conquer the world, not this humiliation like give me a warning or something

 

[Cattai1]

this game seriously needs to explore more options like why do you force me to play a submissive cuck this is not the evil guy that I imagined playing or the kind of corruption that I pictured, I thought I would be playing a hero turned villain like turning on his country or the world and siding with demons to conquer the world, not this humiliation like give me a warning or something

I mean they do have a pretty explicit ntr toggle at the start...

 

[Shaska]

I mean they do have a pretty explicit ntr toggle at the start...

I think they mean overall motive of being a slave/servant to demon overlords, not ACTUAL NTR, they probably just expected a powerfantasy of MC getting entire world under the shadow his dick.
I think it's way more interesting storywise to be a servant that builds his own agenda with power and allies he gathers behind the twins' backs, but to each their own i suppose.

 

[Deleted member 7872389]

Second one.

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