Big Green

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See a lot of comments on NTR, is this mostly a NTR game or is there plenty of non-ntr content?
The game is heavy NTR themed. Be it a guy cheating on his wife or vice versa. If you skip all the cheating interactions, then a huge chank of the game will be SFW lol. But even if you can 'prevent' it, in the end it will look stupid and unrealistic.
 

Orez81

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Ain't most of the comments of milking, having to do with story progression? I mean there's one consistent keyword you rely on.


I'm not around all that often. But I can't recall folks complaining all that much about the porn part of this porn game... I mean unless it's complaints about the abundance of NTR with wife and demon boi :unsure:. Or like something being removed. It typically from what I can remember. Had to do with the game part of the porn game. The story and it's progression. So your point is kinda moot if they ain't talking about it.
Honestly your entire post is complete garbage, The game has been in development for almost 10 years and is till not done, no where to be close to be done I don't care how many scenes are there I want a finished product. His post stating the the dev is milking it is true.
 
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Birdnman993

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Okay. Let's do the math. August 2016 to May 2025 is 105 months.
What really freaks me out isn't the 9 years of development, but the fact that this is only the first of three acts!!! AND THE FIRST ISN'T EVEN FINISHED!!!

It's already been said that the other two will take less time to develop, but really? At this stage of life, that's putting too much trust in anyone.
 

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Or in other words, it's a real lazy and ignorant take to try and lambast a team that has a nearly decade long track record of delivering solid content.
Let's be candid, while they still at least delivered some "solid" content over the last years... many end users won't care and only notice that the story is at a full stop, hasn't made any meaningful progress in a long time. Or that they kept teasing some alternative route (the Astarte one i believe) that only exists in name. I can't blame those people for feeling that way.

After all this time, you can't even reap the benefits of doing the siege with drastically different choices... so far it goes to the same conclusion and then you get some morsel of side stuff every once in a while
 

kaspqz

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my sad attempt of the replay mod for 0.4.06 created 256,257,258,259,260 plus added to 235, 250 and 254 their newly added cgs, probably missing some variables here and there but most of the new stuff is visible and i am not providing full info like opaquecake is am not fully sure how he was spreading them so they won't work too well with the sorting

260 was part of a big event so i left a small part of it where the cgs are found

let me know how it works as it's first time when i try doing this and might fail hard
l.e. swapped them on 26.08 with a version with a bit more info for the mod filtering
l.e.2: for instalation copy to the game folder, as described by opaquecake
l.e.3: for version 0.4.08 you have the above link by opaquecake, added this edit as this is still the pinned message
link for 0.4.07
link for 0.4.09
l.e: seems that from 0.4.10 the game comes with updated mod so i will go and retire somewhere
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Don't retire yet, just in case
 

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Honestly your entire post is complete garbage, The game has been in development for almost 10 years and is till not done, no where to be close to be done I don't care how many scenes are there I want a finished product. His post stating the the dev is milking it is true.
Think you might've misquoted there my guy because uh.... I don't know what this got to do with me.
 

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Yea... that's probably just random shit post for quick likes or something. I was just speaking more in general on the topic. And what I've seen when it comes to complaints involving milking. No all ofc, but a lot. I mean I'm one of those rare degens. That holds a cardinal sin hot take.

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but ahem.... I think it's ok to sideline the porn for the game/story parts. And this game among some others I've played. Would (in MY OPINION) still be good, even if the poon took a backseat.

I know, I know, I'm saying some crazy ish right now. Maybe even a little bit blasphemous. Don't hit and forsake me! But I imagine if anyone who is supporting, holds similar views. I mean... you could say they getting squeezed. But at the same time. I also like to imagine that most people still paying. Are more or less ok with how it's going. The way some folks be talking about milking. Would swear the supporters had a gun to their heads. But it all is what it is.

Dude, not at all. I lambast the use of Gen-AI for being anti-human fake futurism bullshit that serves to only enable spam and scam artists. I frequently critique the writing and dialogue in (get this) visual novels. I find that 95% of the audience here wouldn't appreciate a good character if they found one, and likewise 95% of devs here couldn't write themselves out of a wet paper bag. I am the animation student that is going to tell any dev up-front that doing bad animations is far worse (in terms of end product, time, effort, and resource allocation) than not doing them at all. I am usually the person with the most unpopular opinion in the room; and that includes the opinion that everyone who bemoans 'it's only a porn game' in response to any criticism are the most useless wastes of space here.

There is a metric fuck-ton of rough that needs to be sifted through to get at the small handful of diamonds that are to be found here.

While I agree that this dev certainly has the writing chops to make a SFW choose-your-own-adventure dark fantasy visual novel, we do have to face reality here; and that reality is that given the otherwise glacial pace of that story, the NSFW scenes are the mortar holding this entire structure together. Now it's up to each person individually to determine whether or not that's an adequate trade off, but seeing as how the devs are still going strong it seems to be working out for them and their paying audience at least.
 

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Let's be candid, while they still at least delivered some "solid" content over the last years... many end users won't care and only notice that the story is at a full stop, hasn't made any meaningful progress in a long time. Or that they kept teasing some alternative route (the Astarte one i believe) that only exists in name. I can't blame those people for feeling that way.

After all this time, you can't even reap the benefits of doing the siege with drastically different choices... so far it goes to the same conclusion and then you get some morsel of side stuff every once in a while
Sure. That's valid criticism, and rises above the simple accusation of 'milking' by raising some demonstrably true facts about the game's development outside of just pointing at a start date. We can sit back and bemoan the lack of story progression, but at this point, is real progression what the folks who are paying for it want? I don't know. I'm not privy to their funding or the demands of their Patrons. It could be they were far too overtly ambitious, and have now gotten stuck missing the forest for the trees, because it is the individual trees that keeps the Patrons opening up their wallets month after month. I don't know, it's all speculation on my part. What I do know however is that their content is solid, and the devs haven't fallen off the face of the earth. They might spend too much time navel gazing and lack direction, but they're not scammers.
 

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Honestly your entire post is complete garbage, The game has been in development for almost 10 years and is till not done, no where to be close to be done I don't care how many scenes are there I want a finished product. His post stating the the dev is milking it is true.

You just want a finished product no matter the outcome? Boy howdy do I have the perfect game for you!


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Or in other words, it's a real lazy and ignorant take to try and lambast a team that has a nearly decade long track record of delivering solid content.
Don't forget that they also did an overhaul of the art style relative to the beginning. The original art style was much more cartoonish in nature, and has shifted into something much more aesthetically fitting for the tone of the game.

I think a lot of people forget that every game on here is a *game*. They're not kinetic novels. If this was just about churning out scenes, I think 2 scenes a month is probably slow (especially since they're rarely animated) - but there is an underlying RPG/choice element to this game that slows down the process.
 

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While I agree that this dev certainly has the writing chops to make a SFW choose-your-own-adventure dark fantasy visual novel, we do have to face reality here; and that reality is that given the otherwise glacial pace of that story, the NSFW scenes are the mortar holding this entire structure together. Now it's up to each person individually to determine whether or not that's an adequate trade off, but seeing as how the devs are still going strong it seems to be working out for them and their paying audience at least.
That really puts this game in perspective lmao. We're reaching Yandere Sim levels of progress.
 

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Now it's up to each person individually to determine whether or not that's an adequate trade off, but seeing as how the devs are still going strong it seems to be working out for them and their paying audience at least.
Just because they're getting paid doesn't mean they're producing quality.
 
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EvolutionKills

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That really puts this game in perspective lmao. We're reaching Yandere Sim levels of progress.
To be fair, these devs haven't put a 1 million polygon toothbrush into their game and done the surprise Pikachu face when the game's performance tanked. Again, overly ambitious and lack of direction sure; but not complete incompetence.
 
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EvolutionKills

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Just because they're getting paid doesn't mean they're producing quality.
True, that's a subjective valuation. I would posit however that they are putting out good quality content. It's just that it is more NSFW content that does little to push the story forward, rather than story content that really pushes the narrative to its conclusion. Again, folks are free to be disappointed that the content being made is not to their liking, but I don't think anyone can unbiasedly call the content they are making 'bad' for what it is.
 
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JoeSte91

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I don't think anyone can unbiasedly call the content they are making 'bad' for what it is.
That would depend entirely on to what standard you would consider someone to be 'unbiased', because everyone comes with some level of bias in their thoughts and actions.
 
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