Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.13a] [Vénus Noire]

[Atlan]

Really want a scene where Greyhide fucks mc ..

 

[Semantics]

Did you even read the tags before you downloaded it? Cheating, corruption, and NTR are all tagged and the game flat out warns you at the start that NTR is a major theme that you literally have to turn off to avoid seeing. If it's not your cup of tea that's all good, we all have opinions. I, personally, have zero interest in Being a DIK and it's one of the top games on the site because it's not something that appeals to me. If Seeds of Chaos isn't the type of thing you would enjoy then there's nothing wrong with you. You're not a phillistine for having a different opinion.

You actually don't have to literally turn NTR off to avoid seeing it. It's honestly super easy to avoid those scenes even without turning it off.

 

[T51bwinterized]

49 votes with 4.5 star rating overall, and yet I don't like this game - am I a fucking philistine?
Okay, you have 20% gay events, 20% NTR events and 10% niche stuff like futa (values pulled out of my ass btw) so half of the game is straight vanilla porn (relatively). Theoretically it should have something for everyone - therefore, everyone should enjoy it, right?
But I'd rather have two or three separate, smaller games with distinct themes, rather than one bigger with half of the content being absolutely unfappable for me.
Currently when I get to a sex scene half of the time I think "damn I wish this wasn't cuckshit / this dude was a woman", and that turns into "why am I playing this game if I'm not going to enjoy most of it?", and then "why am I wasting my time WAITING for the normie vanilla stuff to self-rape myself to when I could just find a 100% hetero consensual hand-holding sex with sole purpose of procreation themed game and beat my meat to that?".
And then I just stop playing, it's not enjoyable for me and the lore / setting / plot isn't interesting enough to justify spending my time on this game. Had three or four tries with Seeds of Chaos and I'm going to give up on it finally.
TL;DR Makes me feel like I'm missing out on big chunk of content. Grug no like.
Bring on the facepalms, I'm not afraid.

To answer the first question: Yes.

Just kidding Just kidding. Okay, actual answer.

As stated above, there are ways of avoiding content you dislike. NTR can be toggled off at the start, and almost every scene in the game can be avoided with even passing attention paid. I also advise that you pick a few options that will make it easier to avoid content like that. Specifically, try to place Alexia in the Bar or the Library. Both will make it less likely that fetish and NTR events will proc.

I also want to take a moment to talk about how we're going to be changing the game, going forward, that will make it easier to control the kind of content you want.

One of our major tasks during the upcoming rework is to move many of the events featuring the castle NPCs from the random event pools into events at the castle that the player can trigger.

A consequence of this is that it will become much easier for players to control what content they get. A player who only likes M/M will find it easy to avoid proc-ing Shaya and Cla-Min, and can instead Proc Skorded and Draith. A player who wants femdom can trigger Jezera events, while one who wants Mdom can spend more time with Liurial or Helayna.

This will not absolutely end events for kinks you dislike procing (though, you will continue to be able to turn down sex in those). But, it will shift the game play experience so players can get more of what they find sexy per hour of play.

 

[Ragney]

That sounds pretty cool actually, especially as more and more events get added it will be harder to get specific scenes without just spamming end day

Remember, every time Mango complains, we go an extra release without adding what he wants. The counter is going up~

What if he starts complaining about stuff he does want so you add the stuff he does want?

You actually don't have to literally turn NTR off to avoid seeing it. It's honestly super easy to avoid those scenes even without turning it off.

Yeah I have never turned it off I just don't have Alexia fuck Andras at literally the first opportunity

...She's saving herself for Rowans butt

 

[T51bwinterized]

Oh, an extra note.

Another element going forward is that more and more of the NTR events added to the game are going to have Alexia being Andras or Jezera loyal as a pre-requisite. This means that as the game goes on, the smaller and smaller the NTR event pool will be for players who refuse either option. The overall effect will also be a game that more dynamically shifts to content you want.

That sounds pretty cool actually, especially as more and more events get added it will be harder to get specific scenes without just spamming end day

What if he starts complaining about stuff he does want so you add the stuff he does want?


Yeah I have never turned it off I just don't have Alexia fuck Andras at literally the first opportunity

...She's saving herself for Rowans butt

I am unsure if Mango is capable of that degree of strategic thought. I'm sure its fine.

 

[Phegor]

As stated above, there are ways of avoiding content you dislike.

I think you misunderstood me.
In short: I know that I can straight-up disable NTR. But doing that and avoiding gay content locks you out of 50% of the sex content and that feels bad.
When in doubt, whip it out food analogy: imagine you buy a cake, but half of it is the kind of you absolutely cannot stand. You can either eat the good half of the cake and throw away the other half or you can buy a different cake that you'll enjoy in its entirety.
In before "but the game is free" - yes, I know, the counterpart to money from the example is time invested in playing the game.

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[SommelierVN]

Wait, I just noticed that the Patreon is at 10k/month. Okay, this game is way too overrated.

Finally we reached the point that we got called overrated. Thanks fam.

 

[T51bwinterized]

I think you misunderstood me.
In short: I know that I can straight-up disable NTR. But doing that and avoiding gay content locks you out of 50% of the sex content and that feels bad.
When in doubt, whip it out food analogy: imagine you buy a cake, but half of it is the kind of you absolutely cannot stand. You can either eat the good half of the cake and throw away the other half or you can buy a different cake that you'll enjoy in its entirety.
In before "but the game is free" - yes, I know, the counterpart to money from the example is time invested in playing the game.

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The game has more then 100 scenes that aren't NTR or M/M. If you wanna play a game of totals with us, we still blow most of our competitors out of the water by way of sheer volume. If all you care about is objective totals, then we slay that too. What do you want from us, fam?

Edit: I think that fundamentally there are three different complaints going on here.

1. "I don't have enough content in the game that I enjoy"
2. "The content I enjoy keeps on not proc-ing relative to the content I don't enjoy"
3. "Other people have too much content that they enjoy that I don't"

The first two complaints is a reasonable thing to want. If we are lacking on a certain kind of scene, that's a fair position. If you're not getting material you enjoy that exists, that's also fair. But, the third point is just dickish absent the first point. It's honest to god being disrespectful and distasteful to fellow players.

If you want to engage me on point 1 or 2, be my guest. But, if your critique is exclusively complaint number 3...then what are you even doing fam?

 

[Oriandu]

I think you misunderstood me.
In short: I know that I can straight-up disable NTR. But doing that and avoiding gay content locks you out of 50% of the sex content and that feels bad.
When in doubt, whip it out food analogy: imagine you buy a cake, but half of it is the kind of you absolutely cannot stand. You can either eat the good half of the cake and throw away the other half or you can buy a different cake that you'll enjoy in its entirety.
In before "but the game is free" - yes, I know, the counterpart to money from the example is time invested in playing the game.

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Oh look, the overrated card just got whipped out. I take back my earlier statements about you not being a Philistine.

 

[diebesgrab]

Remember, every time Mango complains, we go an extra release without adding what he wants. The counter is going up~

I guess he must want futa, then.

 

[T51bwinterized]

We're actually going to add more X'z this release. Not a futa scene, I think. But, it has helped us work on her and sped up movement to more content for her.

 

[MangoMeta]

A player who wants femdom can trigger Jezera events

Wow making it easier to trigger the two femdom events with Jezera, very cool. That totally addresses the lack of content for her.

 

[T51bwinterized]

~Counter went up one~

 

[apyrvalg]

"Proc"? Google says that is programmed random occurrence. Is that right?

 

[Rem002]

You actually don't have to literally turn NTR off to avoid seeing it. It's honestly super easy to avoid those scenes even without turning it off.

Yeah I even did a Rowan is not interested in sex and his wifey is loyal to see if I could and I didn't run into a single forced sex scene. Even the first one which I thought would be forced I could reject. I really appreciate how every scene has a nah I'm good option.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

I guess he must want futa, then.

Seriously most of the game's sexual content feature one female and one male.

But yet he can only see the gay and trans content. Highly suspicious to me...

 

[davethewizard]

"Proc"? Google says that is programmed random occurrence. Is that right?

Yeah, getting something to proc just means getting something to happen when it's got a RNG chance of doing so - for example, in RPGs weapons with a [x]% chance to slow or do extra damage or cause a status effect when you hit with them. Here, it just means getting the specific events people want to trigger, since scenes that happen as you go along are picked out of a pool at semi-random (rather than the linear "if you did [Y], [Z] happens next" in many other games).

 

[Darting run]

To trigger Rastedel events

You need to have visited Rastedel and made the orc alliance before week 60. There should be a walkthrough posted on page 1.

I helped Delane escaped, let female orc join the twin, visit the Rastedel, fuck Delane (again) there. Then I have no clue how to proceed. Got killed by the twin.

 

[Swordsman83]

hopefully we can kill the twins in 1 of the ending scene.

 

[abagon]

I don't mind killing Andras but I like Jezera, so hopefully will be an option to kill only one of them instead of both