Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.13a] [Vénus Noire]

[AlexWildfire]

Height has nothing to do with it, and I already explained about the Minotaur in a previous post. Also there is a cg of them comparing.

Lets try something here.. grab a picture of an average bull with an erection, try to compare that with any human penis, and then think what would be stranger, the big minotaur having a , for the race, incredibly small dick, or the minotaur having a "Normal" dick for his race's size

 

[errte13]

Having in mind that said dark elf is traumatically afraid of women, i dont think he could be femenized without having a small hearth atack each time he sees himself in the mirror, or worse, it working in reverse and the more femenine he gets the more sexually dominant he becomes by power of dark elf logic

Welp, Rowan will heal his trauma away all the while making a bride out of him, two birds in one stone

 

[Ragingrager]

Lets try something here.. grab a picture of an average bull with an erection, try to compare that with any human penis, and then think what would be stranger, the big minotaur having a , for the race, incredibly small dick, or the minotaur having a "Normal" dick for his race's size

You people really love making claims I never made. If you want my opinion about the minotaur, go look at the post that addresses it. My compare post was refering to Andras, hence why I referred the minotaur point back to a previous post.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Please consult Rein for all femboy related inquiries.

Rein

Having in mind that said dark elf is traumatically afraid of women, i dont think he could be femenized without having a small hearth atack each time he sees himself in the mirror, or worse, it working in reverse and the more femenine he gets the more sexually dominant he becomes by power of dark elf logic

Poor Draith will be scarred for life.
Still it would be hot to see.

 

[Ragingrager]

Taking you slightly seriously again for a second. If that's all true, how is Jezera NTR'ing Rowan in the Jezera NTR riute? I might be mistaken, but it strikes me that Rowan perhaps has a long donggle then her.

Just realized I missed this reply, don't want to make it seem like I was ignoring it. See my reply to

No no, but I am kinda curious. If Dick size is the measure of sexual prowess, how would Jezera seduce Alexia?

in my past posts. Its more or less the same answer either way. Anyways thats all.

 

[errte13]

Rein? Am I allowed to be degenerate? Can Rowan magically impregnate any traps he can get his hands on pretty please?

 

[Bonds Defiled]

You people really love making claims I never made. If you want my opinion about the minotaur, go look at the post that addresses it. My compare post was refering to Andras, hence why I referred the minotaur point back to a previous post.

I personally don't understand what you want to tell us too. You said "the minotaur is giant like so it makes sense he has he bigger cock" so why doesn't it make sense that andras who is bigger than Rowan has a bigger cock as well?

Looked a bit through my cg's but didn't find the one where they compare dicks but didn't unlock all cg's yet and skip all gay content so I believe you that there might be such an event. I only found one with andras and an orc and the orc has a far bigger dick than andras too so that might be foreshadowing that he might become the next warchief...

 

[AlexWildfire]

I personally don't understand what you want to tell us too. You said "the minotaur is giant like so it makes sense he has he bigger cock" so why doesn't it make sense that andras who is bigger than Rowan has a bigger cock as well?

Looked a bit through my cg's but didn't find the one where they compare dicks but didn't unlock all cg's yet and skip all gay content. I only found one with andras and an orc and the orc has a far bigger dick than andras too so that might be foreshadowing that he might become the next warchief...

There is a very early event that has Adras and Rowan rubbing dicks, i have to say, never stopped to look and get concerned over the size of their genitalia.

 

[errte13]

TBH, I don't even understand why take dick size so personally. Rowan is the only one who can be "hurt" by it, but does he even care? It's not like his dick size is of any concern, he seems above average anyway.

 

[Ragingrager]

I personally don't understand what you want to tell us too. You said "the minotaur is giant like so it makes sense he has he bigger cock" so why doesn't it make sense that andras who is bigger than Rowan has a bigger cock as well?

Looked a bit through my cg's but didn't find the one where they compare dicks but didn't unlock all cg's yet and skip all gay content. I only found one with andras and an orc and the orc has a far bigger dick than andras too so that might be foreshadowing that he might become the next warchief...

You're misunderstanding, Andras is well within the realm of human sized, so are the Orcs. To put this in D&d terms, a minotaur is a different size catagory than either Andras or Rowan, or the orcs. Has nothing to do with raw height. That was my point. So the minotaur at least makes some sense on that front and the animal its based off of.

TBH, I don't even understand why take dick size so personally. Rowan is the only one who can be "hurt" by it, but does he even care? It's not like his dick size is of any concern, he seems above average anyway.

Lel, in other settings and real life yes, in this game world per the cg, no apparently he's not above average. Not of what see anyways.

 

[errte13]

You're misunderstanding, Andras is well within the realm of human sized, so are the Orcs. To put this in D&d terms, a minotaur is a different size catagory than either Andras or Rowan, or the orcs. Has nothing to do with raw height. That was my point. So the minotaur at least makes some sense on that front and the animal its based off of.

Orcs, demons and minotaurs are all fictional races, author can give them huge dicks if he wants too.

But going back to what started it all

No you can't kill the mary sue super bull designed to perfectly cuck you and have a bigger dick than you and be better than you in everyway. His entire design is utter cancer, I honestly doubt there will be any satisfying way of ever handling him. Because he's clearly the creators dream bull. Rowan is basically designed to be sexually inferior to everyone for the creators fetish, thats why basically everyone is bigger than he is. The optional ntr stuff wouldn't be so annoying if the creator didn't go out of his way to design rowan blantantly to be such a utter loser in literally every aspect, including sexually. You know whats fun in a porn game? Having the smallest cock of all of the people that can fuck your women and your wife! Quality design for porn right there. You're not going to be able to ruin dream bulls life like he constantly does to you, or anything like that. Because the creator will protect this character, in the end its going to be some half baked scene where you "turn the tables on him" and it moves on ignoring all of the shit this guy attempts to do you constantly. Expect not to be get satisfying revenge on brother. But do expect a billion more scenes where he adds on to the torture the character can inflict on you the player character instead though. Because with the way this story is written, the only people that have consequences for their actions is the player. The player isn't allowed revenge or to put consequences on others for the horrid things they attempt to do to him. The character and player expected to just take it, and not be upset that the brother you know was trying to fuck his wife or rape his friends etc. Even though no reasonable human being would ever just say oh remember that time you attempted to rape my wife! All is forgiven! I picked the action that prevented said thing from happening and that means what you were trying to do doesn't matter!

Rowan/theplayer won't have a bunch of scenes where he steals red assholes girls, or bangs the sister in front of him repeatedly where the sister chooses Rowan over her brother and degrades the bother like he has the other girls degrade you etc. It will be some small thing thrown in with basically no meat to it, compared to everything else that gets done to the player. As for what I would want to happen? I'd want Rowan somewhere in the game drink a permanent giga dick potion to start ahegaoing the sister and getting her onto the players side, then mtfing the bother into a non futa girl and her sticking around as as sex slave for the rest of the game. With long detail scenes of you corrupting them both into your slaves. But for the reasons I mentioned above, none of this is likely or it will be meatless content because this is about Rowan being something other than a sexually inferior loser. Which is a shame, but it is what it is.

Looking back at this, it seems to me that you're taking the NTR by superior cock size personally, so much so you want revenge in the same manner and make Rowan the avatar to your rage and steal back all the girls with his own superior cock.

Well revenge route is planned, just not the way you want I think. Sex is not the main point in SoC, so all the worries about dick size is just low priority. Even if Alexia is stolen, dick size is the least of Rowan's mind, just kill the bastards who stole Alexia and maybe Alexia herself.

 

[FugginDamaged]

I just wanna say the dinner date with Jezera was perfection.

 

[Ragingrager]

Orcs, demons and minotaurs are all fictional races, author can give them huge dicks if he wants too.

But going back to what started it all



Looking back at this, it seems to me that you're taking the NTR by superior cock size personally, so much so you want revenge in the same manner and make Rowan the avatar to your rage and steal back all the girls with his own superior cock.

Well revenge route is planned, just not the way you want I think. Sex is not the main point in SoC, so all the worries about dick size is just low priority. Even if Alexia is stolen, dick size is the least of Rowan's mind, just kill the bastards who stole Alexia and maybe Alexia herself.

I've address that argument already, no I'm not. I'm pointing out what is literally in the game and how its portrayed as a means to mock the character visually. So I explained why it would make sense narratively in various posts

Also by the logic of the your first comment, the entire game is fiction, he could give Rowan the biggest dick of them all. My points about the minotaur were because someone brought up a logical reason. Anyway the whole argument is a moot point at this time. Oh one last thing, its still a porn game and sex is HEAVILY focused as an element of the game. So I disgaree entirely there.

 

[errte13]

I've address that argument already, no I'm not. I'm pointing out what is literally in the game and how its portrayed as a means to mock the character visually. So I explained why it would make sense narratively in various posts

Also by the logic of the your first comment, the entire game is fiction, he could give Rowan the biggest dick of them all. My points about the minotaur were because someone brought up a logical reason. Anyway the whole argument is a moot point at this time. Oh one last thing, its still a porn game and sex is HEAVILY focused as an element of the game. So I disgaree entirely there.

Yup, Rowan can be given the biggest dick. Even a dick on his forehead if the author is inclined to.

SoC is not really a porn game, as it can be a stand alone game without any sexual content, or so say the front page :

" There will also be a relatively safe for work version produced, with the sexually explicit content removed, for those who just want to play the game without the adult content. "

 

[Ragingrager]

Yup, Rowan can be given the biggest dick. Even a dick on his forehead if the author is inclined to.

SoC is not really a porn game, as it can be a stand alone game without any sexual content, or so say the front page :

" There will also be a relatively safe for work version produced, with the sexually explicit content removed, for those who just want to play the game without the adult content. "

Opala origins also has that option, doesn't really mean anything. Everyone is quite aware of what people play these games for.

 

[diebesgrab]

To the point that [Andras] seems to go to a stange tsundere level with Rowan

I-it's not like I l-like dominating your little human dick, ba-baka!

 

[Rein]

Rein? Am I allowed to be degenerate? Can Rowan magically impregnate any traps he can get his hands on pretty please?

Not my cup of tea I'm afraid.

And it's not gay if the dick is feminine.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

How do I use it? I don't know what these options on it do, after grabbing it, though I used all the options.

Just unlock console and developer menu to force start events. Search the thread or check the program's thread in the tools & tutorials area of the forum.

 

[Mmushy]

Replaying from the beginning and I see there is quite a bit of reworking of scenes to the point if them being new scenes.
The Greyhide scene that I can't seem to get (1) Alexia + Rowan + Greyhide in the forge (2) Alexia + Greyhide sex when she working in the forge. Are they still there or gone?
Rastedel - Can't seem to meet Delaney there anymore either. Didn't get the option to side with the Duke.
Fae emissaries, totally reworked. So I'm going to assume I won't be meeting them anymore when wandering the woods
Since I'm replaying I am not exactly playing the game in order but jumping all over the place. So wondering if I made the "wrong" choices or those scenes are gone.

 

[rivon]

his is the same reason we've been studious about avoiding lasting appearance changes to Rowan and Alexia based on corruption. Do you think that Andras giving Alexia a Temporary tattoo was an accident?

You hit me hard in the tender parts with this one.
While i can understand that big changes too characters art is impossible because of the budget constrains and limited time frame. But even avoiding such minor changes as tattoo on the crouch ? Srsly i'm not sure this is such a demanding task from budget perspective and work... many others indie devs actually implemented piercing and tattoos as easy and simple changes you can do to characters to show there character corruption.
Ofcourse you can rebuff by saying NO ITS HARD and that will be it. But let me have a suggestion.
On Patreon you have no stretched goal for a long time. The last one was Rein fanfic. BTW good job Rein!
And maybe just maaybe add a goal where some limited changes to at least main character could be implemented IF you reach certain amount of cash? After all this what Arioch is all about GROWTH.
I can't really see how corruption of the main character wont affect there appearance. If uncorrupted Alexia look exactly the same as corrupted one. i just can't buy it.
As for the Secondary characters as i suggested before they have arcs with few ending depending on your choices. Where you can show what happened to them in this ending arts without changing all the previous art for this character. Like with Delane left for orcs broken and pregnant. Or Helena had a dream what would have happend to her if Rowan wont save her from the twins.
Again im sure you have your own vision for the game may be make a poll ask patreons will they like it or not?