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Oh i am not hating. Everyone should be a fan of what they like. I am just talking from a psychological point of view. NTR is made to make you feel worthless, like you deserve to be cucked and lose your girl to a superior specimen. It requires a lot of self loathing to be into that. If you are into that that's fine by me, is a free world, mostly.
 
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Then what's the point of playing a cuck? You can play the dozens other games that don't make you play a cuck or make you feel like one. The whole point of these games is to cater to the portion of the fanbase that like feeling like that, that thrive on the jealousy. That's why is a whole genre, a niche. If you don't get the feeling the game tries to put out then it's no point to it.

It's like saying i don't like to shoot people and steal cars but man do i like Grand Theft Auto
 

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Glad to see a certified psychologist in here. My favorite porn game is actually a harem game, thank you very much. I just think it's funny to see people lose their shit about NTR in this game when it is around 20% of content, and I am being generous? I have a number of serious issues with this game, mostly related to the shit gameplay it has, but as much as I dislike it I will defend it from stupid shit like people characterizing as an NTR game. That's one aspect. You can avoid almost all content you don't like, except for killing, at least if you want to progress.
 

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First of all... i am a certified psychologist. Diploma and all. Second I am not hating on anything. I am just saying my point of view on NTR game and it's fans. Not to be malicious but to explain how things work from my point of view.
 

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And in the next scene he probably fucks her in the ass while Rowan is watching behind the tree to right
If you are a certified psychologist I would hate to go to you after a quote like that. Very unprofessional. You should give your college back it's money. And I am not defending NTR as a concept. Just in this game, it is not a huge part of it unless the player wants it to be. But to be fair, I haven't actually played it for a while now because like I said, I hate the gameplay.
 

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What is wrong with the quote? Did i say i hate it? Did i say i am against it? Given some content of the game what i said is not that far fetched. Or did you just infer my meaning because you think everyone hates NTR. Like i said. I have no problem with people liking whatever they feel like liking.
 

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Please read the quote again, as a certified psychologist, with a diploma and everything, and tell me again that is a professional thing to say. I call bullshit
 

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That was not a professional thing to say. That was a thing a perv will say which I never say I wasn't. I am on this site after all and I enjoy pervy things. Sue me. Why would I be professional when I am commenting on a pic from an erotic video game?
 

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And in the next scene he probably fucks her in the ass while Rowan is watching behind the tree to right
Im hoping more in the line of them double teaming her. Alexia proposed to Greyhide " I can bring Rowan along" in one of the scenes in the forge. And borefore the editing of the treesome scene , bouth of them proposed " lets invited Greyhide under the covers next time". So it whoud be just a sensless tease not to have a treesome in some point.
 
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If I’m remembering correctly, as of two or three updates ago, that scene involves Rowan watching Andras defeating an orc champion, then gives you the option to have Rowan face Andras himself. The outcome of that fight is based on a d20 roll, and while the odds are stacked against Rowan (regardless of stats, as the few stat ups available don’t make a massive difference in these high DC challenges), it is possible to win, though you’ll likely need to savescum to get that outcome.

That said, the skill system and all roll-based checks are undergoing a massive overhaul and will be updated soon™. I imagine the check will still be tough, as Andras is supposed to be an extremely powerful individual compared to Rowan at this stage of the game, but it may scale better with Rowan’s level or whatever they end up using.
Ah, I see. Maybe I was misremembering or they redid the entire scenario. In any case, thanks for the write-up.

In regards to Rowan being fairly weak, is there an explanation for that? Iirc he was in the party of heroes that defeated the demon lord, right? If so, even if he wasn't the party's most powerful member, he should still be among the strongest humans in the setting I would think? I stopped playing back then because I think I was disappointed that this legendary hero was a total pushover in all respects.
 
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Ah, I see. Maybe I was misremembering or they redid the entire scenario. In any case, thanks for the write-up.

In regards to Rowan being fairly weak, is there an explanation for that? Iirc he was in the party of heroes that defeated the demon lord, right? If so, even if he wasn't the party's most powerful member, he should still be among the strongest humans in the setting I would think? I stopped playing back then because I think I was disappointed that this legendary hero was a total pushover in all respects.
Rowan was the rogue/strategist of the party so definitely not a heavy hitter, and if I recall correctly, a lot of the power he had during their quest came from buffs and blessings that came from the more "godly" party members (forgot the name of the heroine that was the really super blessed one). Rowan was a competent fighter and a brilliant strategist, but without being powered by blessings of the goddess, he's still mostly a regular human being that has been retired from any serious fighting for many years.
 

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I don't think he was a rogue... I mean he failed to see he was sitting on a freaking trap door. Even LV1 rogues have the detect trap ability... Plus as a strategist? After getting his ass kicked the first time by the demons he just goes ahead all by himself and in the open in their lair without a back-up plan?
 

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I don't think he was a rogue... I mean he failed to see he was sitting on a freaking trap door. Even LV1 rogues have the detect trap ability... Plus as a strategist? After getting his ass kicked the first time by the demons he just goes ahead all by himself and in the open in their lair without a back-up plan?
You're right, a renowned strategist wouldn't run in alone and without any kind of plan, even with his wife taken. And a master rogue (or even a novice rogue) wouldn't fall for the traps he has fallen for. Also, I know the twins threatened consequences if he brought his former friends with him, but not even sending a runner to inform them of the situation with the demons becoming active again in Bloodmeen castle made it hard to suspend my disbelief.

There just seems like a lot of situations where he acts like a complete greenhorn when he should have known better.
 
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