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JoeTheMC84

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Based on the post I quote here and some other comments you've made, the answer to the question I first wanted to ask may not matter in the long run as I (and the majority of harem fans) don't play games with NTR, even if it is optional (if you want we can talk in messages and I can explain why ever "optional" NTR is a lie and ruins a story).

But I'll ask the question anyway since other's may also want to know the answer: the game is called Seeds of Power and the "baby seeds" power is a thing, but I don't see pregnancy as a tag, :unsure: Does that mean no pregnancy?

I'm not a big fan of NTR like many, but I think that in this specific situation of the Mayor vs. the protagonist, Netori or especially netorare fit perfectly into the story I want to tell.

PS: Thanks for the insight.
Okay, some things you should consider:

Adding NTR (Netorare) into a harem game is one of the worst things you can do. You will be torpedoing your game for a single scene. It will drive away harem fans, and not even attract NTR fans (because they will feel lied to since it isn't an NTR based game and one scene will just make them upset). If the Mc (Main Character) is stealing the mayors wife (this is Netori) it can work, but if you show the mayor and his wife fucking at all, or if the mayor fucks other girls that are the Mc's then you are basically setting yourself up for failure.

Hopefully this is just an issue with the fact that English isn't your first language and NTR and it's forms is all about Japanese terms (that aren't often even being used correctly). If this is all a miscommunication it needs to be cleared up as soon as possible. To the harem fans that it seems you would like to be the ones playing your harem game, Netori is the only type of NTR that won't drive them away (and depending on how you implement that it can be a negative as well).

And as for girl-on-girl, don't assume that everyone loves it, if you add it, best to make it optional, as in, the girls are not lesbians and only do bisexual stuff if the player enables it (EDIT: and even then, don't make every girls into it or willing to do it). Don't have them do it on their own, and especially don't have the Mc say stuff like, "That's so hot," if he sees or thinks about girl-on-girl independent of the will of the player, since to more and more people, it isn't being seen as hot, but as forced content they are tired of being forced into every game on this site. Best to have the inclusion of the content, as well as the way the Mc reacts to it, be totally in the player's hands by selecting to have that stuff.

Anyway, I'll try not to go on too long a rant, but if you want to talk, feel free to message me. I've written for several games, am working on my own game, and have even written a guide to the basic vanilla harem that devs can use as a starting place and build off of (link in my signature).

Whatever you decide to do, I wish you the best.
 
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Based on the post I quote here and some other comments you've made, the answer to the question I first wanted to ask may not matter in the long run as I (and the majority of harem fans) don't play games with NTR, even if it is optional (if you want we can talk in messages and I can explain why ever "optional" NTR is a lie and ruins a story).

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Adding NTR (Netorare) into a harem game is one of the worst things you can do. You will be torpedoing your game for a single scene. It will drive away harem fans, and not even attract NTR fans (because they will feel lied to since it isn't an NTR based game and one scene will just make them upset). If the Mc (Main Character) is stealing the mayors wife (this is Netori) it can work, but if you show the mayor and his wife fucking at all, or if the mayor fucks other girls that are the Mc's then you are basically setting yourself up for failure.

Hopefully this is just an issue with the fact that English isn't your first language and NTR and it's forms is all about Japanese terms (that aren't often even being used correctly). If this is all a miscommunication it needs to be cleared up as soon as possible. To the harem fans that it seems you would like to be the ones playing your harem game, Netori is the only type of NTR that won't drive them away (and depending on how you implement that it can be a negative as well).

And as for girl-on-girl, don't assume that everyone loves it, if you add it, best to make it optional, as in, the girls are not lesbians and only do bisexual stuff if the player enables it. Don't have them do it on their own, and especially don't have the Mc say stuff like, "That's so hot," if he sees or thinks about girl-on-girl independent of the will of the player, since to more and more people, it isn't being seen as hot, but as forced content they are tired of being forced into every game on this site. Best to have the inclusion of the content, as well as the way the Mc reacts to it, be totally in the player's hands by selecting to have that stuff.
I'm really not trying to be rude, but I have to disagree, The world is not exclusively divided into pure NTR lovers who want the MC to be cucked all day long and pure harem guys who get offended if anyone in the game other than the MC ever touches a woman, even off screen.

The endless slapfights between those two small extremist groups on f95zone obscure the fact that most of us aren't that extreme. We aren't going to lose our shit when we see a little lez action, we don't get mad if another character fools around with a girlfriend that we eventually steal away from him, we aren't going to delete the game if it has an optional route with content we don't like but we can easily skip, we don't think that a little "forced content" is any big deal. We don't want weak MCs who get cucked, but we aren't so paranoid that every little thing becomes a horrible NTR betrayal.

In short, we don't self-identify with the MC so heavily that we take it personally if the content varies a little from what might prefer. I don't want you to think that I'm just attacking you. I just want the developer to know that not everyone who likes harem games agrees with rigid rules about the content those games are allowed to have. I love harem games, I don't like cuck games, but I think developers should make the game they want to make, even if it is not the exact same as the game that I might make myself.

I know I'm going to get downvoted hard on this comment by a few of the same old crowd, but it needs to be said.
 
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I'm really not trying to be rude, but I have to disagree, The world is not exclusively divided into pure NTR lovers who want the MC to be cucked all day long and pure harem guys who get offended if anyone in the game other than the MC ever touches a woman, even off screen.

The endless slapfights between those two small extremist groups on f95zone obscure the fact that most of us aren't that extreme. We aren't going to lose our shit when we see a little lez action, we don't get mad if another character fools around with a girlfriend that we eventually steal away from him, we aren't going to delete the game if it has an optional route with content we don't like but we can easily skip, we don't think that a little "forced content" is any big deal.

In short, we don't self-identify with the MC so heavily that we take it personally if the content varies a little from what might prefer. I don't want you to think that I'm just attacking you. I just want the developer to know that not everyone who likes harem games agrees with rigid rules about the content those games are allowed to have. I love harem games, I don't like cuck games, but I think developers should make the game they want to make, even if it is not the exact same as the game that I might make myself.

I know I'm going to get downvoted hard on this comment by a few of the same old crowd, but it needs to be said.
NTR haters are very noisy, but I read his post about harems and agreed with a lot of things, and disagreed with others.

Moral of the story: I will include netori (main character stealing another man's wife) following some of his tips, which are quite good.

NOTE: Regarding NTR, this will only happen once and then the story will continue normally after that without any more NTR (pink promise).

I just want to tell the story I want to tell without constraints, and it's my first game, and if I mess up badly, it's good because I learn; if I get it right, I just got it right. In the end, everything is about learning and progress.
 
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