Ren'Py Serenia [v1.0f] [OffWhite Studios]

[exil3d]

Ah! It was broken! Thank you for sharing your save with me. One of the quest triggers you need for the Rabbit quest was turned off for some reason. I'll see if I can put out a hotfix for this issue. Thanks again for the bug report!

Glad it hepled you a bit
Thanks for being active here and as - good luck with your game, it's great. Definitely will wait for polished ep1 and of course ep2.

 

[Sossse]

the game itself is a lot of fun i just did not expact is to be so fokused on.. voyerism of all things..

 

[OffWhite Studios]

the game itself is a lot of fun i just did not expact is to be so fokused on.. voyerism of all things..

Thanks for checking out the game!

I’m learning after publishing it that people experience the scenes a lot differently from one another. For me, when I wrote them, I didn’t intent any NTR or voyerism.

If you look up the definition of those things, the game does not technically fit, as voyerism is getting excitement or pleasure from watching others (porn basically).

Anno does see others having sex, but he never gets pleasure from it. Sex is just happening around him and In some scenes like Jester or Fawn, he’s not even there (but the player is).

I also didn’t intend to write the scenes in a way that centers his involvement as part of what makes it “hot”. He usually just shows up at the start and then is not mentioned again or shown until the end of the scene. He’s invisible/not important to the scene basically.

People feeling the game is NTR or voyer sort of caught me off guard since I don’t really enjoy either of those things in games lol.

That said, I don’t want to tell people how to feel. I’d rather update the game based on feedback, so for the next update I have been working on adding different “save” routs for the girls that I hope the improve player agency, making Anno less passive in some scenes. Maybe it will help? I hope.

 

[hysepReC]

People feeling the game is NTR or voyer sort of caught me off guard since I don’t really enjoy either of those things in games lol.

You really shouldn't be surprised considering:

The MC is in about 5 of 33 scenes in chapter 1

That's what, 15%? When 85% of NSFW scenes are non-MC sex it is only natural for players to feel like they're playing some kind of voyeur or NTR game, regardless of technical definitions. Also, F95's definition of voyeurism is: "Spying on people engaged in sexual behavior including stripping." so I think it does fit.

 

[Sossse]

That said, I don’t want to tell people how to feel. I’d rather update the game based on feedback, so for the next update I have been working on adding different “save” routs for the girls that I hope the improve player agency, making Anno less passive in some scenes. Maybe it will help? I hope.

great to hear. characters are well writen; how they think and act makes total sence, but nevertheless there were some moments where i thought: "why the f**k does he not just act, god dmn it!".. xDD

 

[OffWhite Studios]

You really shouldn't be surprised considering:



That's what, 15%? When 85% of NSFW scenes are non-MC sex it is only natural for players to feel like they're playing some kind of voyeur or NTR game, regardless of technical definitions. Also, F95's definition of voyeurism is: "Spying on people engaged in sexual behavior including stripping." so I think it does fit.

I completely understand. What’s interesting is that while the players who enjoy the game don’t view it as NTR or Voyeurism, those who dislike it cite those exact tags as the reason. It’s a divisive point, but all I can say is that those vibes were never my intention—and frankly, I think fans of NTR or Voyeurism would actually be disappointed by the content.

I enjoy the variety of scenarios a fantasy world allows, such as scenes involving orcs, goblins, or monsters. From a storytelling perspective, forcing the MC into every one of those encounters feels limiting. If I had to define the target audience, it would be fans of fantasy non-con stories who prefer not to play as a "cuck" or a rapist MC. In Chapter 1, Anno serves primarily as a mechanic to move the player between scenes; he has all the sexual encounters he wants and passes on the ones he doesn't, so he never really exhibits 'sexual' frustration in the story.

I definitely plan to include more MC-focused scenes moving forward (If you beat Chapter 1 you can see where the story is going). That said I will maintain a variety in scenes with different character and monsters, I'll just try and be more conscious of the MC’s placement.

One challenge for me is that I don’t personally get those NTR vibes from the game, so it's hard to write them out in a way that satisfies everyone. Specific examples from players really help. For instance, in v1.0, Anno originally witnessed the assault on Fawn. Once that was pointed out, I simply rewrote it so the scene happens before he arrives. I’m more than happy to make changes like that since having the MC in close proximity to those scenes isn't important to me. If removing him makes the scenes feel less like NTR or Voyeurism, I'll do it.

Also, thanks for sharing the F95 definition of Voyeurism. It’s different from what I found on Google. I agree it fits the Sophia "hands" scene since Anno is 'unintentionally' spying there. It might also apply to the Millie/Mother scene, though "spying" feels like a strong word since he isn't seeking it out or watching for enjoyment. In fact, he is looking for a way to stop it from happening. A comparison I’d make is that if the police were to watch evidence of an assault for a case, I'm not sure I'd classify that as "spying."

 

[OffWhite Studios]

great to hear. characters are well writen; how they think and act makes total sence, but nevertheless there were some moments where i thought: "why the f**k does he not just act, god dmn it!".. xDD

Haha yea, The Gup scene and the opening Fawn scene I got a lot of comments like that. I'll be editing them for v1.1

Spoiler: v1.1 Gup Scene Spoiler

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