HTML Seven Sins [Ch.2 v1.8.1] [Lianland]

[Lianland]

So I did a run-through of chapter 1 to see the revamp and I did not end up in a throuple with Mia and Lola nor did I get the post-volleyball foursome with them and their friend. I don't know that I've ever not ended up on that route with them before in 5+ runs through chapter 1, did the revamp change things or did I somehow make just the wrong decisions this time around?

Only thing I can think of is maybe throuple is part of Mia's corruption path? It's possible I've always taken corruption with her in the past but I took love this time.

The trouple (and 4some scene) is Mia's trust ending, which is accessible through both her Love and Corruption paths.

 

[phinny1]

If you clicked you weren't interested in Lola during that first meeting, I think that cuts all the multi-person scenes in the Mia line.

To be more specific I triggered the threesome with Mia and Lola but afterwards I ended up only dating Mia rather than both of them.

The trouple (and 4some scene) is Mia's trust ending, which is accessible through both her Love and Corruption paths.

So I picked too many choices that gave L points and not enough that gave trust?

 

[Lianland]

To be more specific I triggered the threesome with Mia and Lola but afterwards I ended up only dating Mia rather than both of them.


So I picked too many choices that gave L points and not enough that gave trust?

Indeed. I let the 3some scene as a reward for her main L/C ending, but the trouple has a Trust threshold (4 or 6, might need to check the WT to be sure).

 

[phinny1]

Indeed. I let the 3some scene as a reward for her main L/C ending, but the trouple has a Trust threshold (4 or 6, might need to check the WT to be sure).

Ok then I probably never missed it in the past due to save editor use, which I kept to a minimum this time. Now I'm wondering if the differences in the Marie path I got were also due to not abusing save editor this time or from the revamp.

You've really improved the game significantly since release, I normally consider revamps to be a pretty major warning sign that the dev has resorted to milking but I immediately noticed the different (and better imo) scenes and between that and removing the random IR you've demonstrated a commitment to improving quality and hearing out your audience. Great work.

 

[Lianland]

Ok then I probably never missed it in the past due to save editor use, which I kept to a minimum this time. Now I'm wondering if the differences in the Marie path I got were also due to not abusing save editor this time or from the revamp.

Nope, you didn't miss it because Mia didn't have a Trust ending before the revamp; the trouple was her main ending. And Marie is the character who went through the most changes, especially for her corruption path, which is entirely new both in terms of endings and pathing.

You've really improved the game significantly since release, I normally consider revamps to be a pretty major warning sign that the dev has resorted to milking but I immediately noticed the different (and better imo) scenes and between that and removing the random IR you've demonstrated a commitment to improving quality and hearing out your audience. Great work.

Thanks, that really is a nice comment! I really wish to do a game I'm proud of, which is why I revamped chapter 1, as too many things were bothering me. I'm really glad most of you seem to enjoy this version better.

 

[Donho78]

Is the Dunho's Mod still compatible or does it affect some of the changed scenes?

It's still compatible but the link on the main page is dead. The mod is posted on page 14

 

[Southron]

Hey Lianland while you're here answering questions I figured I'd ask: Is there going to be much reason going forward to have picked the male sports teacher? Like, a significant alternate Abella path or an exclusive female character showing up?
At the moment I've got Abella on my Love and Corruption saves and Kira on Chaos, bit since I'm replaying for the current version I figured I'd ask. If the answer is nothing or maybe MMF/sharing or just him being involved in random rule unlocked scenes than I'll probably stick with the other options.

 

[Lianland]

Hey Lianland while you're here answering questions I figured I'd ask: Is there going to be much reason going forward to have picked the male sports teacher? Like, a significant alternate Abella path or an exclusive female character showing up?
At the moment I've got Abella on my Love and Corruption saves and Kira on Chaos, bit since I'm replaying for the current version I figured I'd ask. If the answer is nothing or maybe MMF/sharing or just him being involved in random rule unlocked scenes than I'll probably stick with the other options.

Hey! No, he's just the best choice for Kenzie trust points; I don't intend to use this NPC for scenes (unless, maybe, for random immersive flavor vids).

 

[Southron]

Hey! No, he's just the best choice for Kenzie trust points; I don't intend to use this NPC for scenes (unless, maybe, for random immersive flavor vids).

Good to know. Since I'm not hurting for Trust I'll just stick with the girls then.

 

[longjohngold]

So I had a gander at the WT after playing for ages... I didn't realise I was off of the chaos paths... like I never had the option to tell Marie to be addicted to sperm... and I've been choosing the perviest options possible each time, I think:

Chaos paths are now hidden behind chaos points threshold. The choices to reach those paths are the same, but players won't see them unless actively searching for them.

Has made things a ballache for players that want those paths.

I really hate games when you've gotta keep a WT open to play through them. It's fine if it's just a mod or something, but ruins the flow if you've gotta keep jumping back and forth with a pdf. Might start over, not sure if I can be arsed though, shame as it was well written and interesting but making it a pain to get the paths you want doesn't help anybody.

 

[Lianland]

I really hate games when you've gotta keep a WT open to play through them. It's fine if it's just a mod or something, but ruins the flow if you've gotta keep jumping back and forth with a pdf. Might start over, not sure if I can be arsed though, shame as it was well written and interesting but making it a pain to get the paths you want doesn't help anybody.

I can understand, but I need to keep a balance between chaos players and others that hate seeing chaos options. The choices leading to chaos paths are the same (being a dick, lying, etc.), but they are hidden for players who don't want to see them. If you found the chaos options on your first PT without WT, most likely, the WT won't be needed now as well. Just pick options that lower trust (and/or, sometimes, increase corruption).

 

[scarfer]

When coming into the Student Lounge on Day 2 (I think) for the introduction to Piper... BOTH choices about her outfit connect to the 'bratty' response. So you cannot side with Piper.

Following that, in the second lesson session with Diaz where you try to help Molly, both links are the same text (Correct Answer: Athena, Goddess of Wisdom and Courage), despite the bottom link being the Aphrodite response.

 

[Lianland]

When coming into the Student Lounge on Day 2 (I think) for the introduction to Piper... BOTH choices about her outfit connect to the 'bratty' response. So you cannot side with Piper.

If you're still around that passage, do you mind sharing a screenshot? I can't seem to find the issue, if there's one.

 

[scarfer]

If you're still around that passage, do you mind sharing a screenshot? I can't seem to find the issue, if there's one.

The first one is where the choice is. Both choices yield the same page and dialogue behind it. The second one is the edit I added after you responded, where both links are the same text with different responses.

 

[Lianland]

For the first screenshot: The first choice should bring Elsa love points, and the second Corruption points; the dialogue that unsues should be different. Isn't it the case?

For the second SS: indeed, this mistake has been spotted on the discord. You can DL the html fix on front page, and switch your index with this one. It will be fixed.

 

[scarfer]

For the first screenshot: The first choice should bring Elsa love points, and the second Corruption points; the dialogue that unsues should be different. Isn't it the case?

For the second SS: indeed, this mistake has been spotted on the discord. You can DL the html fix on front page, and switch your index with this one. It will be fixed.

No, BOTH links connect to Elsa's love response. Also, if the index fix in the OP is the same as it was a couple hours ago, then it's the one I'm using and got these errors

 

[Lianland]

No, BOTH links connect to Elsa's love response. Also, if the index fix in the OP is the same as it was a couple hours ago, then it's the one I'm using and got these errors

Hmmm, I'm really confused, everything looks fine when I check the code. I'll beta test this passage, just in case, when I have time. Sorry for your trouble.

 

[scarfer]

While we're looking at things in this day's free roam, are both of these responses supposed to yield +2 trust?

Oh, those links both go to the 'bullying' response page. So they're also not separate dialogue after the choice.

 

[scarfer]

Yeah, both of the Jill and Kenzie choices lead to their love response too. It looks like all of the choice links need a check on this day's free roam.

 

[Lianland]

While we're looking at things in this day's free roam, are both of these responses supposed to yield +2 trust?

Oh, those links both go to the 'bullying' response page. So they're also not separate dialogue after the choice.

Nope, the first one should bring +2, and the second +1. Sorry to ask you that, but do you mind checking on the characters status how the stats change? Just to know if the code is the problem, or just the text displayed afterwards. Alledgedly, the code is fine.