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yoyomistro

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I think people just need to accept that well done hand-drawn games are gonna take a long time. They tried fast updates early on, they just put out low quality stuff that they touched up later as they added a little bit more. It's less work for them to put them time in to make a high quality update out the gate than to spam monthly releases that they then have to go back and fix, and hopefully most people have the presence of mind to recognize that.
 

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I think people just need to accept that well done hand-drawn games are gonna take a long time. They tried fast updates early on, they just put out low quality stuff that they touched up later as they added a little bit more. It's less work for them to put them time in to make a high quality update out the gate than to spam monthly releases that they then have to go back and fix, and hopefully most people have the presence of mind to recognize that.
Well said. Sure more money = able to dedicate more time to game development but it’s not exponential lmao - once they’re fully committed to the project, no extra money is gonna speed things up :FacePalm:
 
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I think people just need to accept that well done hand-drawn games are gonna take a long time. They tried fast updates early on, they just put out low quality stuff that they touched up later as they added a little bit more. It's less work for them to put them time in to make a high quality update out the gate than to spam monthly releases that they then have to go back and fix, and hopefully most people have the presence of mind to recognize that.
And since they take a long time, the developer needs to be ready for posts accusing the developer of "milking patrons/subscribers." Those posts seem to rise exponentially as the developer gains supporters.

Well said. Sure more money = able to dedicate more time to game development but it’s not exponential lmao - once they’re fully committed to the project, no extra money is gonna speed things up :FacePalm:
True. Once they've left their "day job," not much more a solo developer can do. One can add staff, but we've seen many cases when a critical staff member walks away from the project, leaving the game in limbo as the developer tries to replace them.
 
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And since they take a long time, the developer needs to be ready for posts accusing the developer of "milking patrons/subscribers." Those posts seem to rise exponentially as the developer gains supporters.
Well, they can ignore those, they have a track record and those of us who know that will say so. Also no one on their patreon page will accuse them of that obviously as they are voting with their money, plus get to see the consistent status updates they put out. They could do what some other hand drawn creators do to mitigate that perception and stream on Picarto, like Dark Cookie and InCase. They could even add stream VoDs to a Patreon tier if they decided to do something like that.
 

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Well, they can ignore those, they have a track record and those of us who know that will say so. Also no one on their patreon page will accuse them of that obviously as they are voting with their money, plus get to see the consistent status updates they put out. They could do what some other hand drawn creators do to mitigate that perception and stream on Picarto, like Dark Cookie and InCase. They could even add stream VoDs to a Patreon tier if they decided to do something like that.
I was thinking about DarkCookie. I was a $10 supporter for a while, largely for the community at that level. Because he has so many supporters, I don't think there is a level of interaction he can do to stop those who see his raw numbers and must complain. Is it any wonder he no longer shows up on the F95zone thread?
 
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I was thinking about DarkCookie. I was a $10 supporter for a while, largely for the community at that level. Because he has so many supporters, I don't think there is a level of interaction he can do to stop those who see his raw numbers and must complain. Is it any wonder he no longer shows up on the F95zone thread?
I mean he doesn't need to anymore lol. F95 helped him get big at a critical point in the scene, and then he has so much self-sustaining attention and mainstream media coverage at this point it's not worth his time, lol. Plus the thread is so big at this point it's hard to have a real discussion, I barely participate/read it anymore.
 

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I mean he doesn't need to anymore lol. F95 helped him get big at a critical point in the scene, and then he has so much self-sustaining attention and mainstream media coverage at this point it's not worth his time, lol. Plus the thread is so big at this point it's hard to have a real discussion, I barely participate/read it anymore.
Yeah, I glance at it, but I don't comment very often.
 
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