SymbioticLife

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Makes sense. His last update was mid March and I think he also took a week off + he said multiple times his real life job's been pretty busy.
Yeah there's been multiple things, I've had to take a step back due to my own work + mental health which has put even more of the burden on Abyss (who already did the vast majority) plus he himself has been kept busy. It's not easy balancing work on this vs full time job + responsibilities. It's draining, I hope people can have some empathy because Abyss works his ass off to push out content.
 

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I hope the game continues on the NTS path, it's much better this way. Then maybe in the end Dev can fulfill the desire of some who want to see pure NTR
I don't plan on going into NTR with Alice and Luke. Everything will be with consent. Although, there will be less "talking" about approval. I feel like Luke and Alice have established a good pace and if she oversteps, that ass will be turned into a tomato.
 

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I don't plan on going into NTR with Alice and Luke. Everything will be with consent. Although, there will be less "talking" about approval. I feel like Luke and Alice have established a good pace and if she oversteps, that ass will be turned into a tomato.
I understand in a way it's good to know that. Like just talking and stuff wouldn't hurt:LOL:
It's good that Mc has a collar on that ass, thanks for the explanation.
 

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I feel like Luke and Alice have established a good pace and if she oversteps, that ass will be turned into a tomato.
Oh no! A tomato?! Alright but better get the colour just right because if you enter aubergine territory we might get some real weirdos around here;)
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SymbioticLife

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NTS is vi.
Ntr is the other girls, circle games made that known since the beginning.
Don't know why we're discussing MNGF in this thread but at literally NO point has CG said this, or even implied this. I'm literally friends with all but one person on the dev team, have had numerous conversations on the future/development of aspects of the game both with CG himself but more often with those on said team and uh, you're incredibly off base. NTR implies a level of maliciousness, humiliation or ill intent that just isn't there. I'm not go into further detail here, because besides the fact it's off topic it'd also be revealing things I'm not sure CG wants revealed. But suffice it to say Anya - the one who started this outrage - still loves and will love (and lust) for Eric, nothing has changed regarding that I don't know where you got this weird idea the other girls would be NTR, literally the only relationship CG has confirmed will be NTR is Ari and Sai* (Shit even I made a typo I meant Ari and Sai), that's it, that's all. That's not to say there wont be other NTR scenes/relationships, but that is all that has been confirmed.

And in that same respect we intend mostly the same here.

I'd love if people would stop claiming they know what the devs of the respective titles intend without actually having asked or gotten clarification.

If I sound grumpy it's the end of my vacation and it's 3 am and I can't sleep so I apologize, but please try to tone down the misinformation and off topic (combined!)
 
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Don't know why we're discussing MNGF in this thread but at literally NO point has CG said this, or even implied this. I'm literally friends with all but one person on the dev team, have had numerous conversations on the future/development of aspects of the game both with CG himself but more often with those on said team and uh, you're incredibly off base. NTR implies a level of maliciousness, humiliation or ill intent that just isn't there. I'm not go into further detail here, because besides the fact it's off topic it'd also be revealing things I'm not sure CG wants revealed. But suffice it to say Anya - the one who started this outrage - still loves and will love (and lust) for Eric, nothing has changed regarding that I don't know where you got this weird idea the other girls would be NTR, literally the only relationship CG has confirmed will be NTR is Ari and Sai* (Shit even I made a typo I meant Ari and Sai), that's it, that's all. That's not to say there wont be other NTR scenes/relationships, but that is all that has been confirmed.

And in that same respect we intend mostly the same here.

I'd love if people would stop claiming they know what the devs of the respective titles intend without actually having asked or gotten clarification.

If I sound grumpy it's the end of my vacation and it's 3 am and I can't sleep so I apologize, but please try to tone down the misinformation and off topic (combined!)
"Hello there, it depends on the relationships, for now only Eric and Vi are presented as a couple ( their focus will be NTS, meaning Eric enjoys the whole process ), but there will be implemented NTR roots on other relationships in the next chapter, Chapter 1..."_ Circle games


And it's okay, wish you had a bigger vacation. You're definitely an asset to this community
 
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"Hello there, it depends on the relationships, for now only Eric and Vi are presented as a couple ( their focus will be NTS, meaning Eric enjoys the whole process ), but there will be implemented NTR roots on other relationships in the next chapter, Chapter 1..."_ Circle games


And it's okay, wish you had a bigger vacation. You're definitely an asset to this community
He was referring to Sai and Ari. We saw Ari cucking Sai in chapter 1, which was said NTR relationship. Again, there are no other confirmed NTR relationships, I dont want to get too dragged into off topic here though.

And thank you. Im trying to finish up my first scene for the chapter this weekend. I think most will enjoy it a lot, its my first NTS themed scene for the game I realized.
 

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He was referring to Sai and Ari. We saw Ari cucking Sai in chapter 1, which was said NTR relationship. Again, there are no other confirmed NTR relationships, I dont want to get too dragged into off topic here though.

And thank you. Im trying to finish up my first scene for the chapter this weekend. I think most will enjoy it a lot, its my first NTS themed scene for the game I realized.
Respectfully, I have to disagree, fine sir who I respect a lot.
He said "relationships" plural, not "relationship" Singular.
Relationships aren’t just about romance they include friendships, family, and potential love interests too(there isn't other love interests, it's just an example). Honestly, all the girls have those NTR routes. You can see it with how Maki and the neighbor hottie are encouraging them to step out of their comfort zones and get closer to other guys or suggesting they get to meet specific ones. That’s a root in itself. Maki, Anya, the stepmom. Girls who are relevant in the game have those roots.


And good job, what game? I'm excited to hear about.
 
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Respectfully, I have to disagree, fine sir who I respect a lot.
He said "relationships" plural, not "relationship" Singular.
Relationships aren’t just about romance they include friendships, family, and potential love interests too(there isn't other love interests, it's just an example). Honestly, all the girls have those NTR routes. You can see it with how Maki and the neighbor hottie are encouraging them to step out of their comfort zones and get closer to other guys or suggesting they get to meet specific ones. That’s a root in itself. Maki, Anya, the stepmom. Girls who are relevant in the game have those roots.


And good job, what game? I'm excited to hear about.
The one you're commenting on...
 

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Respectfully, I have to disagree, fine sir who I respect a lot.
He said "relationships" plural, not "relationship" Singular.
Relationships aren’t just about romance they include friendships, family, and potential love interests too(there isn't other love interests, it's just an example). Honestly, all the girls have those NTR routes. You can see it with how Maki and the neighbor hottie are encouraging them to step out of their comfort zones and get closer to other guys or suggesting they get to meet specific ones. That’s a root in itself. Maki, Anya, the stepmom. Girls who are relevant in the game have those roots.


And good job, what game? I'm excited to hear about.
No, I assure you, he wasn't talking about those girls and Eric lol. It's not that they won't do shit with other guys, it's just not NTR. They're not in a relationship with Eric, nor is it malicious, therefore it's not NTR. When I say I'm friends with the dev team, I mean like, I'm very, very close with most of the dev team, I'm not basing this on conjecture. NTR is about cuckoldry. Eric isn't being cucked by them because he'll still be fucking them himself, he's not being cheated on because he's not in a relationship with them, and he's not being betrayed by them because there's no expectation for exclusivity and they still care about him. I mean if your definition of NTR is so loose as "anyone who is remotely related to me does sexual things with other people without neccessarily telling me about it" then sure, I guess those relationships are NTR, but that's an absurd definition.

And the game is Shadows of Ambition :LOL: I've helped Abyss since chapter 2.

Also don't read too much into a single world like "relationships", english is not CG's first language nor is he so specific with his language. Like I said I've talked to CG, but more so his team about the game, I'm not basing what I say on conjecture or random off lines by CG.
 

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No, I assure you, he wasn't talking about those girls and Eric lol. It's not that they won't do shit with other guys, it's just not NTR. They're not in a relationship with Eric, nor is it malicious, therefore it's not NTR. When I say I'm friends with the dev team, I mean like, I'm very, very close with most of the dev team, I'm not basing this on conjecture. NTR is about cuckoldry. Eric isn't being cucked by them because he'll still be fucking them himself, he's not being cheated on because he's not in a relationship with them, and he's not being betrayed by them because there's no expectation for exclusivity and they still care about him. I mean if your definition of NTR is so loose as "anyone who is remotely related to me does sexual things with other people without neccessarily telling me about it" then sure, I guess those relationships are NTR, but that's an absurd definition.

And the game is Shadows of Ambition :LOL: I've helped Abyss since chapter 2.

Also don't read too much into a single world like "relationships", english is not CG's first language nor is he so specific with his language. Like I said I've talked at length to CG, but more so his team about the game, I'm not basing what I say on conjecture or random off lines by CG.
Okay, I trust you. Thank you for taking the time to explain things to me, I appreciate it.
 

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No, I assure you, he wasn't talking about those girls and Eric lol. It's not that they won't do shit with other guys, it's just not NTR. They're not in a relationship with Eric, nor is it malicious, therefore it's not NTR. When I say I'm friends with the dev team, I mean like, I'm very, very close with most of the dev team, I'm not basing this on conjecture. NTR is about cuckoldry. Eric isn't being cucked by them because he'll still be fucking them himself, he's not being cheated on because he's not in a relationship with them, and he's not being betrayed by them because there's no expectation for exclusivity and they still care about him. I mean if your definition of NTR is so loose as "anyone who is remotely related to me does sexual things with other people without neccessarily telling me about it" then sure, I guess those relationships are NTR, but that's an absurd definition.

And the game is Shadows of Ambition :LOL: I've helped Abyss since chapter 2.

Also don't read too much into a single world like "relationships", english is not CG's first language nor is he so specific with his language. Like I said I've talked to CG, but more so his team about the game, I'm not basing what I say on conjecture or random off lines by CG.
I think the main problem with NTR in this game is that it's a story. Аnya is presented to us as a girl who has some feelings for MC and then jerks off to another guy. Anya is shown in the story as a potential love interest, so the players feel that this is NTR.

It just needed to be done in a different way, for example, MC asked Violet to help her become less shy or Violet's friend and together they would corrupt Anya in front of MC or with his participation.

The sisters work together with Violet and arrange an NTS for the MC and fuck with him. It could have been done much better than the developer did. :devilish:
 

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I think the main problem with NTR in this game is that it's a story. Аnya is presented to us as a girl who has some feelings for MC and then jerks off to another guy. Anya is shown in the story as a potential love interest, so the players feel that this is NTR.

It just needed to be done in a different way, for example, MC asked Violet to help her become less shy or Violet's friend and together they would corrupt Anya in front of MC or with his participation.

The sisters work together with Violet and arrange an NTS for the MC and fuck with him. It could have been done much better than the developer did. :devilish:
Please no more MNGF discussion in this thread thanks. I just wanted to clarify my knowledge on the topic and how that pertains to Shadows and how we treat the subject. Otherwise this convo can happen in the MNGF thread.

CG is a chill guy making a game with great vibes, people need to just wait and see. Same with our project (even though the two games have many differences, and actually SoA is darker in some respects), you have to have a little faith in the vibes.
 
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Hi guys,

Time for another dev update!

Things are progressing nicely. I have some time booked off next week, so I should be able to work non-stop of the game for 5 days straight, which is desperately needed to catch up to where I want to be. Kinda ironic that I'm taking time off work to... work...

Either way, some of these scenes require a lot of editing in photoshop, piecing things together and making them come out the way I want them to.

We also got our first animated scenes back from the animator and he did an outstanding job. I'll try to include as many animated scenes as I can in this update, I just need to make sure they are finished in time so the animator can do his magic.

On a side note, sometimes it can be difficult to get the image you want. However in this case, it's a happy little accident. Who doesn't love a MILF, am I right?

Work continues and I'll keep you guys updated.

-AbyssGames


 
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