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Hey everyone, just a friendly reminder to keep the conversation centred around Shadows of Ambition. The mod team have been noticing a LOT of off-topic rants about NTS/NTR that are derailing the thread. Furthermore, there have been a lot of personal attacks and disrespectful/spiteful comments made towards other users which will incite further flamewars and derail the thread even more. There have already been temporary thread bans and warnings handed out to the aggressors/instigators (they know who they are). As such, further thread derailment will result in more thread reply bans and warning points given out, so I suggest you keep things on topic and your nose clean while commenting on the thread. Thank you and have a pleasant rest of your day.
 
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What I initially liked about Shadows of Ambition, was that despite having a familiar AI art style, not every woman had those aggressive angry eyebrows. Those stop being sexy after a while, and you start to worry if their faces will develop wrinkles.

At first I wasn't very impressed by the girlfriend character. She seemed like a simple nymphomaniac. What was revealed in the most recent chapter has changed my understanding of her, and she seems now to be a unique character type. I am looking forward to how the story develops with regards to her true personality, and the personality she's trying to adopt. I hope the story will keep exploring this interesting interplay, and that "corruption" doesn't have to be linear.
 

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What I initially liked about Shadows of Ambition, was that despite having a familiar AI art style, not every woman had those aggressive angry eyebrows. Those stop being sexy after a while, and you start to worry if their faces will develop wrinkles.

At first I wasn't very impressed by the girlfriend character. She seemed like a simple nymphomaniac. What was revealed in the most recent chapter has changed my understanding of her, and she seems now to be a unique character type. I am looking forward to how the story develops with regards to her true personality, and the personality she's trying to adopt. I hope the story will keep exploring this interesting interplay, and that "corruption" doesn't have to be linear.
As the story progresses, more of the character's backstory will be revealed, but I'm glad that you liked the update.
 
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TheCrazyDiamond

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Why not, like, learn to draw? Or at least commission an artist. AI basically uses stolen work to train on. AI games like this just make me feel ick.
 
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Why not, like, learn to draw? Or at least commission an artist. AI basically uses stolen work to train on. AI games like this just make me feel ick.
I've tried drawing. I'm ok at best. I can fix things, not draw things from scratch. Commissioning an artist costs a lot of money. So either I would have to cut down on amount of renders per episode by like 95% to make it viable or I would have to re-use the same drawing for multiple scenes. Also taken the time that it takes to make an finished image, I'd be releasing updates every 6 months if I'm lucky.

AI uses all kinds of work to train on. Some stolen, some not. Most people who make games with Daz3D never end up purchasing the models they use and just use stolen assets too.

But I get that you don't like AI and you don't have to. For me it's a tool that allows me to create a game like this.
I spend more time in photoshop than you'd think to achieve this kind of quality and consistency.

Anyway, thanks for sharing your opinion.
 

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I've tried drawing. I'm ok at best. I can fix things, not draw things from scratch. Commissioning an artist costs a lot of money. So either I would have to cut down on amount of renders per episode by like 95% to make it viable or I would have to re-use the same drawing for multiple scenes. Also taken the time that it takes to make an finished image, I'd be releasing updates every 6 months if I'm lucky.

AI uses all kinds of work to train on. Some stolen, some not. Most people who make games with Daz3D never end up purchasing the models they use and just use stolen assets too.

But I get that you don't like AI and you don't have to. For me it's a tool that allows me to create a game like this.
I spend more time in photoshop than you'd think to achieve this kind of quality and consistency.

Anyway, thanks for sharing your opinion.
Thanks for that educational response, good to get another perspective with AI, we can all rant against the machine, but in the long run we are going to have to find a way to work with AI, cause that genie is out the bottle.
 
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Played MNGF and while I do see some similarities, I think the artstyles are different enough. Thank god there's no angry eyebrows everywhere. Game seems good, really liked the second chapter, was a big step up in quality from chapter 1. Hoping the quality keeps increasing in the next chapters. Good luck with the game! I see a lot of potential in this one.


I also had a look at the Patreon, I'm on the fence about subscribing, but the dev seems very active on Patreon, which is a good sign. Anyone here a sub and can tell me what type of content is posted on the Patreon?
 
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ItsNotUs

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I've tried drawing. I'm ok at best. I can fix things, not draw things from scratch. Commissioning an artist costs a lot of money. So either I would have to cut down on amount of renders per episode by like 95% to make it viable or I would have to re-use the same drawing for multiple scenes. Also taken the time that it takes to make an finished image, I'd be releasing updates every 6 months if I'm lucky.

AI uses all kinds of work to train on. Some stolen, some not. Most people who make games with Daz3D never end up purchasing the models they use and just use stolen assets too.

But I get that you don't like AI and you don't have to. For me it's a tool that allows me to create a game like this.
I spend more time in photoshop than you'd think to achieve this kind of quality and consistency.

Anyway, thanks for sharing your opinion.
:ROFLMAO:
Yes, dude, someone buys models from stores, someone pirates, here is a simple example of the base of this model from which, through manipulation, this model is obtained, and this model is already custom.
cj-momlingeringtest1.png cj-momlingeringtest1-7.png
Because it is difficult to repeat, it is practically impossible, unlike AI/
But even here, deves like you manage to justify themselves, because of the mistakes that appear as artifacts in the pictures! There are people who know how to use the AI editor well, you need to learn from them or at least ask for advice!

P.S: Do you even know whose art style you're "copying"?
 
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:ROFLMAO:
Yes, dude, someone buys models from stores, someone pirates, here is a simple example of the base of this model from which, through manipulation, this model is obtained, and this model is already custom.
View attachment 4343804 View attachment 4343805
Because it is difficult to repeat, it is practically impossible, unlike AI/
But even here, deves like you manage to justify themselves, because of the mistakes that appear as artifacts in the pictures! There are people who know how to use the AI editor well, you need to learn from them or at least ask for advice!

P.S: Do you even know whose art style you're "copying"?
You're obviously just trolling, right? Compare my game to any other AI game and you'll see the quality difference.

I don't even know why I'm responding to you. You're clearly upset by something or someone.
 

ItsNotUs

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You're obviously just trolling, right? Compare my game to any other AI game and you'll see the quality difference.

I don't even know why I'm responding to you. You're clearly upset by something or someone.
Lol
Here's one example: https://f95zone.to/threads/mila-ai-v1-3-6b-addont.188775/
Quality - don't make me laugh! You still haven’t answered whose art style you stole!
Although you probably don’t know! Melkor Mancin
 

AbyssGames

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Lol
Here's one example: https://f95zone.to/threads/mila-ai-v1-3-6b-addont.188775/
Quality - don't make me laugh! You still haven’t answered whose art style you stole!
Although you probably don’t know! Melkor Mancin
I didn't steal any art style. I didn't create Stable Diffusion or the checkpoint models...
Good thing you brought up a game, that's also using an art style by another creator. Don't see you complaining about that.

You're comparing apple to pears. You're not disproving any of my points, you're just throwing a childish tantrum.

I have a suggestion for you, leave this thread and ignore this game's development. It's clearly not for you.

But you're right... Quality? Imagine doing post processing on images and fixing all the inconsistencies... lol.jpg video1_4.jpg
 
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