dontcarewhateverno

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Wow. The dev has clearly put a lot of work in to make the game engaging with interactions & build-up to leave the player immersed & has made huge improvements visually in sex scenes to the point some are second-to-none AAA professional-level (despite some of the awful male costumes & designs). Game started as a shitshow (my impression at least) but I must admit there are some great improvements and strengths here (none of them being the dialogue lol - though good in a few cheating sex scenes, tbf). This game has some scenes better than any I've seen in even the best interracial NTR (namely the crescendo in Chapter 5 cheating path, though some great visual - imperfect, writing-wise - elements in the albeit uneven current release too).

But damned if every path but the cheating one isn't a completely convoluted mess. :ROFLMAO: There's nothing but hamstring logic in the progression and character choices in the blackmail & cuckold paths, which really take the wind out of the sails of some great visuals & a lot of valid effort.

If the dev could focus less on side characters & trim down Jason's interactions to only those focusing on Fred (to a limited extent) & Cami, maybe he could dedicate more time to really thinking about those progressions & what makes "plausible" (for a porn-game at least) sense in character & story progression.

What could make the most sense over the next several updates is to find a way for all three paths to converge. Then use player choices for how Fred reacts to those situations to split paths in a more manageable way that allows the dev time to focus more on more "plausible" (for porn) progression.

Cheating & cuck paths at least would make the most sense to converge, though complicated by those pink-haired Cami & fam dream sequences that only show on the cuck path. At least with the cheating path you can follow Cami's motivations. She's an unreliable narrator in her own head, lying to herself, rationalizing all of her slutty decisions as her instinctive lust & sexual desires get the better of her love and commitment towards the MC who she truly cares for, as well as her self-image of a good girl who'd never do such things. Definitely the hottest path of the three. A huge part of that is because it's more grounded. But also, I admit, the dynamic of that push/pull is just generally hotter to me. I just hope there's some point in the development where Fred can choose how he reacts to it. IE: Will he get off on spying, and emotionally confused, start masturbating his little pencil? Will he get caught in the closet with his little dick in his hand? About to get beaten up by Jason until Cami tearfully protests out of love, followed up by an intense heart-to-heart of what he can & can't provide for the relationship? (Cuck path conversion). Will Fred react angrily instead & break up to go with mini-Cami (whatever his sister's friend's name is) only to see her cuckold him too? (Or alternate "happy" ending choice for the completionists). There's just so much more that can be developed here. Though I hope something along the lines of the former is a choice.


Other poor things I hope get fixed (but probably wont): WTF is with Junior's haircut.... & flathead-screwdriver penis head? :KEK:Some of Jason's, Juniors & that gang's clothing? (That fucking mask. WTF is this, Goth-Industrial Crips drinkng 40's of OE while group dancing to Marilyn Manson? :WaitWhat: Also Jason's fricken lumberjack outfit this episode. WTF :ROFLMAO:. Looks like he just stepped out of REI & enjoys hiking and home-brewing). Definitely hope the dev (or some dedicated modder) creates a feature to change their character names too. Name sounds like he would shop at REI). Most of the male characters are visually disjointed too. (Tiny head/big body black "friend" of mom, anyone?). But some at least still improved since the first chapter. At least Jason looks black now from certain angles though hair texture is super-weird in some lighting & you can tell his bone structure is still from a caucasian DAS base, especially in the cheeks, eyes, brow ridges & nose bridge.
 
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Question on Ch 5 cheating path if anyone's played the version locked behind the top-contributer tier: What happens if he selects an excuse to ditch out when in the office with Cami's sister while Cami is in the gym with Jason?
 

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but can she really win??? :unsure:
The design in this was dumb. Clearly the dev forces you to lose to progress the story. Which is fine. But he does this in a way that breaks immersion and logic, feeling like a bug.

Win a number of games (usually by cheating with the saves/rollbacks, of course, like most people will). Here's what the game does currently: At a certain number of matches won, even if you're within two points above/below, the game counts it as a loss. Opponent has a 10 for instance. You can have any combo between 8-12 & the dialogue still says you lose. Rinse & repeat till you're out of chances.

What should have been done: After a certain number of wins, to guarantee losses, the dev should have had opponent always pull a 2, 3, 17 or 18 & have the player always pull at least two cards of 5 or above (in the case of opponent's 2 or 3) or at least two cards of 5 or below (in the case of a 17 or 18 opponent result). That way you're guaranteed to lose in the end but it doesn't break immersion or add confusion for the player.
 
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does anyone have a save after the Ruth sex scene at the party. The screen keeps turning black and pressing p doesn't work. Dont care what path, as long as its before a scene with Sarah.
 

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I literally can't with this game. The looney tunes sound effects. Fucking boss music with chanting whenever the bull is on screen. MC looks like a ghoul. Random ass Maplestory music in the schools.
 
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can anyone create a cheating path from the first to the last chapter in one game?

as far as i know, the first and last chapters were separated because the developers changed the rpgm engine to renpy.

even if someone makes the first chapter of the renpy version, i don't think it has been combined with the last chapter.
 

AndyPandaetrr

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man, i have a RTX 3050 Windforce OC Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce, 6GB that run everything, but playing this game for about 10 minutes my GPu goes crazy to 100%, something that not even Fortnite running on ultra does, its impossible to run taht game without finish and open again, and i'm not the only to report this trouble.
 

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got a save from that point? I dont want to replay so much
No, sorry, I didn't want to replay through it at all so I just went to the Renpy version which starts at the new content. I prefer playing RPGMs though, so I'll probably wait for the game to finish before playing through that version again - if it continues to get updated considering there were some complications with it from what I can gather here.
 

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Cuck path cohesion is awful compared to cheating path. But I actually liked that part. Shows just how ineffective he is, as if it doesn't even count and that she only really loses her virginity when she takes a real dick. It's still loving, but sexually futile in respect to her pleasure or satisfaction. Dev could've done a much better job in bringing home that unintentionally humiliating contrast in the end of the chapter though. She doesn't even cum hard with Jason. It should've had her panting like a dog, begging, splooshing, screaming gutteral animal noises and getting the bed absolutely drenched by the end of it all.
 
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Which of the 3 mods is the most fun? (cheating,ntr,blackmail)
None of them are... Pulitzer worthy writing *ahem*. But the Cheating path is by far the best in terms of pacing, build-up, cohesion and motivation. The snooping element is fun/hot too (and should be utilized far more, imo). The other two paths are far-greater clusterfucks of convolution.
 
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Cuck path cohesion is awful compared to cheating path. But I actually liked that part. Shows just how ineffective he is, as if it doesn't even count and that she only really loses her virginity when she takes a real dick. It's still loving, but sexually futile in respect to her pleasure or satisfaction. Dev could've done a much better job in bringing home that unintentionally humiliating contrast in the end of the chapter though. She doesn't even cum hard. It should've had her panting like a dog, begging, splooshing, screaming gutteral animal noises and getting the bed absolutely drenched by the end of it all.
That isn't going to happen soon. Maybe two more updates on each path so six in total. ShamanDev is going to milk and slow burn. If Camilla goes full hard loving black cock, gets creampie, threesome foursome gang bang and dick dwon, DEV will run out of idea. On top of that, DEV will also have to work harder on how keep going since story isn't his best. I don't blame em, its business first.
 
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That isn't going to happen soon. Maybe two more updates on each path so six in total. ShamanDev is going to milk and slow burn. If Camilla goes full hard loving black cock, gets creampie, threesome foursome gang bang and dick dwon, DEV will run out of idea. On top of that, DEV will also have to work harder on how keep going since story isn't his best. I don't blame em, its business first.
Could be her less-heightened reaction on this one was due to dev future milking plans, sure. But it just made absolutely no sense on this one. First time is always hottest and makes the most sense to make it dynamite, with her leg quivering uncontrollably at the end in spasms, smoke rising off the bed. I mean, dev's having Jason bang MC's mom in a later update and there's definitely more depravity to be had on that path. Much more. In contrast, the cheating path end actually did have that kind of orgasmic result for Cami in Chapter 5. Regardless, in both paths, there's plenty to build up to still, like cumming deep inside, just filling up her uterus. Which hasn't happened yet in either. Basically, there are various intense and plausible next steps to take it too. IMO dev blew it on this chapter end for the Cuck path, not to even mention the convoluted decisions of the characters. Still far better than very vast majority of raceplay-heavy games and he's improved a bunch from the start, even with the spotty writing. Getting very good at sex scene visuals & animations too.... as long as there are no male faces in the sex scene, which he's been really lazy with designing well (though Jason's face has improved a bit since chapter 1, at least from most angles).

"gets creampie, threesome foursome gang bang and dick dwon, DEV will run out of idea" As far as this part, I wasn't even suggesting he do any of this at the end of Chapter 5. Not needed yet. It's her reaction on the cuck path first time with Jason that could have been a LOT more intense. Just like a drug though, both she and the player need to keep ramping the intensity in later hits (chapters) to achieve the same high. So there is much more to explore there in later chapters for her to recapture that intense high that should've been shown better at the conclusion of this one.
 
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