- Dec 30, 2020
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but can she really win???The idea is that you lose so that Camila pays off her debt, what's the point of winning?
Hello friends, does anyone have a save after these dialogues? Because in this scene my game stops working and closes. Could someone help me with this problem, the same thing happened in the other version. :/
Yeah sex scene was great but the build up was non existant. Cami goes from no interaction with jason this update and not wanting to fuck others to suddenly jumping Jasons dick and enjoying the sex to not enjoying cause fred to then still answer to Jason with his 'daddy' command and then feeling bad again and hugging Fred. Hope the next update on the cuckold path atleast addresses this with Fred and Cami cause this would almost instantly break every relationship. Cami feels bad so I kinda expect next cuckold update is her trying to apologize to Fred ALOT and many times.
EDIT: tho from what ive seen Cami also didnt cum, she only had pleasure but she didnt cum once so thats atleast something?
EDIT: tho from what ive seen Cami also didnt cum, she only had pleasure but she didnt cum once so thats atleast something?
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Its poor writing, pacing and DEV has no idea what to do. It is suppose to be cuckold, meaning that the MC catches the main girl and the bully together, while they are aware that MC knows. This usually occur in the early mid stages of most NTR story, and MC tries to win the main girl back. MC doesn't necessarily have to like or hate it. MC can get hard, cry, mad or whatever. He just have to get cucked. In the long games MC loses the girl to the bully and will either accept or reject the outcome. If MC accept his cuck, he become submissive to main girl and bully usually ends up watching them bang, being told what to do and being treated poorly. If MC rejects, the main girl leaves to go live with the bully, or the main girl kicks the MC out and invites the bully to come lives with her, and they continue to bang. They may send a video, email or stream of them banging to the MC or completely cut ties with him.
"On side note, cheating is where the MC is unaware the main girl is cheating behind his back. It will ultimately leaves down the same kind of end but it occurs towards near the very end before MC finds out. Usually there no accepting or rejecting the outcome, just the main girl leaving with the bully or if main girl is the power couple she kicks out the MC and invites the bully. They may send a video, email or stream of them banging to the MC or completely cut ties with him."
"Second side note., blackmail is where the main girl , MC, or both is being extorted and main girl gives herself up to cover up the extortion. If only main girl is extort it will have cheating elements. If MC is only aware, it will have cuckold elements. If both are aware, its both elements. This can occur as early as the beginning and will ultimately leaves down the same kind of end. Usually there no accepting or rejecting the outcome, just the main girl leaving with the bully because he is rich.
Dev is too ambitious in this update and add category outside the NTR like one known as "SWINGING." meaning couples are okay with having consensual sex with others. This is not really cuckold, its open relationship. There is also other category such as gangbang, prostituting, incest, multiple protagonist, multiple antagonist, and even blackmail. It become too messy and the original CUCKOLD plot is lost. It almost feels like a completely different game and story from previous chapter to be honest.
"On side note, cheating is where the MC is unaware the main girl is cheating behind his back. It will ultimately leaves down the same kind of end but it occurs towards near the very end before MC finds out. Usually there no accepting or rejecting the outcome, just the main girl leaving with the bully or if main girl is the power couple she kicks out the MC and invites the bully. They may send a video, email or stream of them banging to the MC or completely cut ties with him."
"Second side note., blackmail is where the main girl , MC, or both is being extorted and main girl gives herself up to cover up the extortion. If only main girl is extort it will have cheating elements. If MC is only aware, it will have cuckold elements. If both are aware, its both elements. This can occur as early as the beginning and will ultimately leaves down the same kind of end. Usually there no accepting or rejecting the outcome, just the main girl leaving with the bully because he is rich.
Dev is too ambitious in this update and add category outside the NTR like one known as "SWINGING." meaning couples are okay with having consensual sex with others. This is not really cuckold, its open relationship. There is also other category such as gangbang, prostituting, incest, multiple protagonist, multiple antagonist, and even blackmail. It become too messy and the original CUCKOLD plot is lost. It almost feels like a completely different game and story from previous chapter to be honest.
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- May 19, 2017
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How can it be swinging if Cami never gave her approval to Fred to sleep with any other girl that's not her
. Ask the uploaders why they put the swinging tag in the thread, Shaman didn't put the tag.You didn't read my previous quote. I said it hinted at and seems like its headed that way. Whether ShamtDev goes that way is still to be seen, but it clearly has swinging elements. She and Fred isn't sleeping around yet, but it is clear when the massage scene happened, Fred allow Camilla to be grope and kissed by the masseuse. He then allow Junior to grope, have his penis in front of her face, and vaginal finger fuck. Camilla allow Fred to be sit on by the girl masseuse and gives him a handy job. These are all sex fore play. It defiantly fits swinging aka sharing their other significant. But its defiantly not cuckold tho or doesn't feel like it.How can it be swinging if Cami never gave her approval to Fred to sleep with any other girl that's not her
- May 19, 2017
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Man forgot they had to do that to pay the debt of the card game Fred lost
. They didn't want to do it, they HAD to do it. Fred also lost the hard massage game because he got hard, Cami got mad at him, owner of SSS Club appeared and offered them to go to THE CUCK house where bulls pay to fuck engaged women so they can pay the debt and also win money to PAY FOR CAMI'S MOTHER TREATMENT.Jason made the best offer, BOTH OF THEM ACCEPTED THE OFFER, he went inside, Fred discovered Jason is the bull that made the offer, Cami remembered what Fred told her about Jason wanting to be friends with him just to be with her. Cami had no other choice so she fucked Jason in presence of Fred (Fred is being CUCKED)
Bro... you can say they didn't want to do it all you want, they needed money, or were kind of force into it due to their plight, the point is that they ended up consenting into having sexual experiences together with others. That is swinging genre. It doesn't what matter what triggers it. It can be partying, taking drugs, peer pressure, sexual desire, plights, curiosity, or even plot, once consent is given, and they have sexual experiences with other in front of each other, it becomes swinging.Man forgot they had to do that to pay the debt of the card game Fred lost
Jason made the best offer, BOTH OF THEM ACCEPTED THE OFFER, he went inside, Fred discovered Jason is the bull that made the offer, Cami remembered what Fred told her about Jason wanting to be friends with him just to be with her. Cami had no other choice so she fucked Jason in presence of Fred (Fred is being CUCKED)
It be one thing if Fred didn't want to do the massage scene and Camilla went through it anyways for the money with or without Fred, then that be cucked. Or if there was some kind competition at the beach and the winner gets Camilla; with Fred loses and Camilla leaves with the winner, or without Fred refuses to compete but Camilla decided anyways to leave with the winner, that too would be cucked.
Look... I love this series. It one my favorite NTR game. And respect to SHAMANDEV but come on this update was really bad. No disrespect to you either MODDER. Once my new computers parts get here, I am venturing to learning more blender and DAZ 3D. Hopefully you will like my works.
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Great game with great potential but in my opinion the DEV should merge the game RPGM chapter 1 - 4 in Ren'py because those who play this game for the first time must first play in RPGM to understand something and it is too dispersive. The renders of the RPGM Chapter 1 -4 are already done that only need to be transported to Renpy.
- Jan 16, 2021
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You can try Renpy port by Doshima)) If ShamanDev will start to port chapters 1-4, it'll take much time for that (if we talk about a good game, Doshima's port is more like a visual novel). I think that nobody want to wait 2+ months for new update. Maybe dev will merge them when he would finish the game.
I hope that dev will continue to develop game and will expand every route beyond the main story line in future.
- Jun 11, 2017
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This was the perfect time to finally have Fred admit to Cami he likes watching her get fucked and for them to talk about it. How do you not do that smh
- Jan 16, 2021
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Swinging is a consensual act, when both of partners agree with swing without pressure on them by force, circumstances and obligations. Cuckolding is quite similar swinging, but more similar to bdsm themes with submission. As for current update, it's far from swinging because the situation is not Fred's desire - he is a weak person which was bullied for a long time by blacks.
Holy shit, that is why this game runs like CRAP. I can't believe everyone isn't complaining about it.
I will have to disagree with you there. Swinging is just consensual straight act of sharing partners regardless of anything. Because there is something called "convincing" and/or "presuasion" of the other partner. What? You think two partners just up and decided read each other minds start banging others in front each other? Something has to trigger it. Maybe MC is a harem. Maybe main girl is a hidden slut. Maybe its their kink? Maybe their both are drunk or high. Maybe they need money and sell each other off.
And this is beyond just the two as the villain can also manipulate the MC or main girl into wanting to swing. Maybe the MC wants the villain's girl and trade the main girl to have a night with her. Maybe the villain wants the main girl and try to steal her by using the villain girl to make MC get into the swinging. There can also be side character like jealous friends, rivals, or if you wanna go incest families who convince, manipulate, and get MC and main girl in swinging. So no I disagree with you when it comes no outside force contributing. Swinging is swinging. Sex is sex.
- Jan 16, 2021
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If MC is a harem? What that is meaning? Harem means a lot of partners for one person, partners have relationships with one person...
If main girl is slut it doesn't mean that her partner agree with that. It's illogical (why people divorce after cheating in that logic???).
Any intoxication affects on our behaviour, but this condition doesn't mean that intoxicated person consensually agrees with everything. If somebody will fuck your partner on party, this doesn't guarantee that you or your partner are consent to swing - it's more similar to cheating or rape.
As for money, MC isn't really happy about the situation. Yes, MCs are manipulated to this ending (because female one is kinda slutty, when male one is strongly bullied before by antagonists), but it's not swinging - it's a kind of sexual abuse (implied consent). MCs don't come to idea of sharing partners by themselves, they were manipulated by different methods to achieve this point of life.
Step by step personality of male MC is being degradated. As for female MC, it's more difficult to conclude - her consent depends on route ( and it's getting worse for male MC because female loves sex while her partner is not gifted at all...).