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That's just the runtime, for compiling you need the JDK, I'd suggest (I used to use Arch before moving to an M1 Mac).


? The Android environment is just for running the game, not for actually compiling the application, so you don't need the JDK or SDK in Waydroid.
Also do you not have a phone you could use instead?
Not sure why you think installing from AUR is better than using the normal repo... Especially since the version in repo is 21.0.6.u7-1, and AUR version is 21.0.6.u7-1, ie exactly the same. Sounds like terrible advice to me.

According to the documentation you linked to and I quoted, I need the android version of renpy to compile the game for android, that is why I quoted what I did.

To perform this step, choose "Install SDK" from the Android screen in the Ren'Py Launcher. RAPT will report on what it's doing. It will also prompt you to accept the licenses.
I have no idea what they mean by "Ren'Py Launcher", I just assumed this is the android version because of the quote above.
In one section they talk about how RAPT is a different software, and in the next they say "just install it WITH renpy". There is no option for this on the software I have available for linux, not that I can find at least.

And no, I am not going to use my personal android phone to compile a porn novel. I keep my online presences separated from each-other for obvious reasons.

If someone can give clear instructions on how to do this easily, I will do it, but I will not spend time learning about it when I have a ton of work to do on the novel instead.
Sry.
 

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If that is already 0.6 why not just finishing it first? The reason people have an initial release are just because it will be several hours of playtime and need/want support on the way or they just greedy for money. The game is not even 10 minutes at 0.6.
So instead of putting out a half baked whatsoever you should have finished it first and made sure that it is polished. Seriously I don't understand why you thought it is a good idea to make that as an initial release.

And I am not complaining about the bad writing, the weird pictures etc. The only thing I really wanna point out is the main couple looking like kids. So I gonna report it that a Mod should take a look if that is against rule 7 or not.
What "people" is it you are talking about? Is there some kind of global rule in the world of how to provide a FREE HOBBY NOVEL that I don't know about?
You accuse me of being greedy when I don't even have a way to donate or support me monetary. Thanks!

For me the reason for the release is to get users to try the novel.
I had 2 options:
1. A beta release like this.
2. No release at all

My question back is, why does it annoy you so much?
May I suggest you not playing the novel if this makes you upset. :)
But if you feel like reporting this a day after a moderator manually accepted the game, sure, go ahead!

Would you prefer if I lock every update behind a paywall instead? (I am not going to do that, but I have to ask when arguments like this turns up)

The stories will be short and DARK.
Not only NTR focused, there will be femdom and maybe even some futa content further down the line.
All images are created using AI but the stories never will.
If any of this bothers you, please do not download this VN.
Please read the last sentence in the "dev notes" section again... ❤
 

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What "people" is it you are talking about? Is there some kind of global rule in the world of how to provide a FREE HOBBY NOVEL that I don't know about?
You accuse me of being greedy when I don't even have a way to donate or support me monetary. Thanks!

For me the reason for the release is to get users to try the novel.
I had 2 options:
1. A beta release like this.
2. No release at all

My question back is, why does it annoy you so much?
May I suggest you not playing the novel if this makes you upset. :)
But if you feel like reporting this a day after a moderator manually accepted the game, sure, go ahead!

Would you prefer if I lock every update behind a paywall instead? (I am not going to do that, but I have to ask when arguments like this turns up)



Please read the last sentence in the "dev notes" section again... ❤
I think the issues raised wasn't that "The story is short" is that you are posting something with a 0.6 that has like 3 minutes of content
 
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What "people" is it you are talking about? Is there some kind of global rule in the world of how to provide a FREE HOBBY NOVEL that I don't know about?
You accuse me of being greedy when I don't even have a way to donate or support me monetary. Thanks!

For me the reason for the release is to get users to try the novel.
I had 2 options:
1. A beta release like this.
2. No release at all

My question back is, why does it annoy you so much?
May I suggest you not playing the novel if this makes you upset. :)
But if you feel like reporting this a day after a moderator manually accepted the game, sure, go ahead!

Would you prefer if I lock every update behind a paywall instead? (I am not going to do that, but I have to ask when arguments like this turns up)



Please read the last sentence in the "dev notes" section again... ❤
Au contraire my friend.It doesn't annoy me at all. I just gave you my 2 cents without any roses. Or any "everything will be good" attitude.

I did not accuse "YOU" at anything. I just pointed out how the general devs are doing it. And now I even even less understand why you put it out in that state. And I think that you don't understand my point.
Your game will be pretty short. So you only have a few tries to make a good impression. Number 1 failed very hard. So instead and specially if you don't even ask for support you should have finished it first. BECAUSE IT WILL BE A SHORT GAME. That it's gonna be a short game is no problem at all.

May I suggest you not playing the novel if this makes you upset. :)
Unfortunately I am not able to know how good a game is without trying it. But thanks for the suggestion.:)

But if you feel like reporting this a day after a moderator manually accepted the game, sure, go ahead!
It would be not the first time scenes against rule 7 passed the first instance. They are humans too and make mistakes.
Maybe it its not against rule 7 but for me they look like children and fall under rule 7. And my goal here is not to remove your game but that you have to redone those pictures with proper adult people and not such pedo shit.

Would you prefer if I lock every update behind a paywall instead? (I am not going to do that, but I have to ask when arguments like this turns up)
Not even once did I manage anything in that direction.

Please read the last sentence in the "dev notes" section again... ❤
Kinda funny. Your bad reply reflects on your bad writing. The only sad thing is that you think I just want bad things for you. I could just have leave a 1 star rating and then move on. But I won't do that. Was the message earlier to harsh? Maybe, I don't know. Written sentences are sometimes hard to feel how they are meant. But your answer is still so unprofessional. That is something you really should work on. ❤;)
 

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I did not accuse "YOU" at anything. I just pointed out how the general devs are doing it. And now I even even less understand why you put it out in that state. And I think that you don't understand my point.
You are correct, I do not understand "your point". All I see is personal attacks, "you don't care" and "I will report this".
Sounds like typical toxicity that leads nowhere.

Go ahead and report all you want, but nothing you type makes any sense since you clearly care enough to keep arguing in a game thread about a game you "do not care about"...
Ever thought about language barriers? Maybe I am not born in an english speaking country? But sure, go ahead and shame me... LMAO
I will just mute you, that is how I deal with toxicity.
I am very open to constructional critique, but not pure toxicity. :)
I am just some random dude providing a VN for FREE, I'm not an entity that revolves around making a living off this. Seems you think there is some imaginary level of "professionalism" I should adhere to, there is not.
I am me, deal with it. (or not, that is always an option) xD
 
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Ok, I see there's some confusion here

Not sure why you think installing from AUR is better than using the normal repo... Especially since the version in repo is 21.0.6.u7-1, and AUR version is 21.0.6.u7-1, ie exactly the same. Sounds like terrible advice to me.
The one in the repo is the Java Runtime Environment (for running Java applications) while the one in AUR is the Java Development Kit (for building Java applications).

According to the documentation you linked to and I quoted, I need the android version of renpy to compile the game for android, that is why I quoted what I did.



I have no idea what they mean by "Ren'Py Launcher", I just assumed this is the android version because of the quote above.
In one section they talk about how RAPT is a different software, and in the next they say "just install it WITH renpy". There is no option for this on the software I have available for linux, not that I can find at least.
The Ren'Py launcher is what appears when you run renpy without any arguments, it looks like this:
Screenshot 2025-03-20 at 6.23.09 AM.png

When you click to build the game for Android, this appears, asking if you want to install RAPT:
Screenshot 2025-03-20 at 6.30.04 AM.png

And no, I am not going to use my personal android phone to compile a porn novel. I keep my online presences separated from each-other for obvious reasons.
Your phone is only needed to play the game, not to compile. I do understand your thoughts on it though, so getting users here to test it should be fine.

If someone can give clear instructions on how to do this easily, I will do it, but I will not spend time learning about it when I have a ton of work to do on the novel instead.
Sry.
If you have a Discord then I can sit down and try and figure it out with you over the course of an hour max (not via voice call, just messages).
 
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I think the issues raised wasn't that "The story is short" is that you are posting something with a 0.6 that has like 3 minutes of content
Let me try to explain again.

The novel is going to contain SHORT stories.
So, with that, if the 1.0 version is a SHORT story for about 6 mins, then how is the 0.6 wrong?
And why is the number on a version in any way significant in this regard?
I could have versioned it 0.9 and it would still be correct, it is not a complete application, hence >1.0.

An application can consist of only 50 lines of code and be 1.0, I just fail to see any relevance here other than the sake of argument.
Do you guys prefer applications that NEVER reaches 1.0, but instead stays in <1.0 so the dev can blame "the application is not completed" forever? I do not, and am NOT going to be that kind of provider.

I repeat, when first story is completed, it will go into 1.0 no matter how short or long it is. When more stories get added, it will be >1.0
Again, the versioning DOES NOT MATTER in this regard, it is only a reference to previous versions.

The first story will be longer than 6 mins though, second day is already loaded with things happening and I have to put restrains on myself or the story would no longer be "short".
 

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If you have a Discord then I can sit down and try and figure it out with you over the course of an hour max (not via voice call, just messages).
I do not, well, no discord specifically for this user.

Code:
extra/jdk21-openjdk 21.0.6.u7-1
    OpenJDK Java 21 development kit
The local repo contains the dev kit, no need for AUR but I hear what you are saying. I am still confused though.
Are you saying by just having JDK installed, Ren'py will suddenly ask me if I want to download tools to compile for android?

After I'm satisfied with day 2 I will look a little deeper into this to see if I can include an android build too. :)

THANK YOU for helping! <3
 

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Let me try to explain again.

The novel is going to contain SHORT stories.
So, with that, if the 1.0 version is a SHORT story for about 6 mins, then how is the 0.6 wrong?
And why is the number on a version in any way significant in this regard?
I could have versioned it 0.9 and it would still be correct, it is not a complete application, hence >1.0.

An application can consist of only 50 lines of code and be 1.0, I just fail to see any relevance here other than the sake of argument.
Do you guys prefer applications that NEVER reaches 1.0, but instead stays in <1.0 so the dev can blame "the application is not completed" forever? I do not, and am NOT going to be that kind of provider.

I repeat, when first story is completed, it will go into 1.0 no matter how short or long it is. When more stories get added, it will be >1.0
Again, the versioning DOES NOT MATTER in this regard, it is only a reference to previous versions.

The first story will be longer than 6 mins though, second day is already loaded with things happening and I have to put restrains on myself or the story would no longer be "short".
Buddy it is NOT because of the version number or that those will be short stories. I just pointed out IF THE STORY IS SHORT WHY NOT FIRST FINISH IT. You would make a 10 times better impression to everyone bringing out a finished story.
Simplified:
Short story not finished = Bad impression (people will be not happy)
Short story finished = Good impression (people will be happy)
 

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What "people" is it you are talking about? Is there some kind of global rule in the world of how to provide a FREE HOBBY NOVEL that I don't know about?
You accuse me of being greedy when I don't even have a way to donate or support me monetary. Thanks!

For me the reason for the release is to get users to try the novel.
I had 2 options:
1. A beta release like this.
2. No release at all

My question back is, why does it annoy you so much?
May I suggest you not playing the novel if this makes you upset. :)
But if you feel like reporting this a day after a moderator manually accepted the game, sure, go ahead!

Would you prefer if I lock every update behind a paywall instead? (I am not going to do that, but I have to ask when arguments like this turns up)



Please read the last sentence in the "dev notes" section again... ❤
I understand you wanted to release something but why is this a .6 it's not really even a .1 it's more like a demo.
 

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I understand you wanted to release something but why is this a .6 it's not really even a .1 it's more like a demo.
Because it does not matter at all. Please see: earlier comment
And no, a demo would be a 1.0 product where things are limited for you. The 1.0 should exist and a demo is a preview of that.

Can you guys please drop this obsession with a number that means nothing other than being a reference for upcoming updates.
If you are annoyed that this first release is very short, please either ignore or wait for future updates. :)

But what this thread has taught me is that a few of you do not appreciate sneak peeks or early previews, so updates will most likely not be as frequent as I initially planned.
Instead of releasing +60 images with first half of day 2 today or tomorrow, I will wait until I am completely done with day 2, and that will take time since I am still moving things around, removing parts of the story, changing small things earlier in the story to make it consistent etc etc.
I was hoping I could rely on users to point out flaws and inconsistencies because it is very easy to become blind to things when you work on it.

Maybe I should do what most other devs does and ignore the comment section here instead...

But for those of you that do not care that the initial release was short, here are some sneak-peeks of upcoming things, so you at least know I am working hard on this right now.. :)
(some of them might not be completely ready for use in production yet)

Code:
    "The boy quickly pops back to their room, softly waking his girlfriend to ask if she is ok with him going on a trek for a few hours"
    "Also informing her of the neighbors intention to invite her to a massage"
    "The girl yawns and give him a kiss"

    g "See you in a few hours baby"

    "What happens during the trek is unimportant, it was just a normal trek"
    "The reason for the man inviting the boy though was far from normal"
    "The man wanted to get the girl to spend some time alone with the woman, phase 2 is in progress"
    "Some good advice from an experienced woman has never hurt anybody right?"

    scene bg table empty
    with dissolve

    "After making herself ready for some late morning food she walked out the door and immediately ran into the woman"
    "What a coincidence..."

    scene bg table blurred
    show woman bikini smiling at left
    show girl bikini normal at right
    with dissolve

    w "Good morning honey!"

    g "Good morning!"

    w "Thank you for last night! It was fun hanging out with you guys"

    show woman bikini concerned at left
    with dissolve

    w "I hope your boyfriend is ok, he looked pretty wasted..."

    show girl bikini laughing at right
    with dissolve

    g "Haha, yeah, he is fine, he went on a treck with your husband right?"

    show woman bikini normal at left
    show girl bikini normal at right
    with dissolve

    w "Oh, he did? (the woman lies through her teeth about not knowing)"
    w "They must have bumped into each-other at breakfast, I wanted to sleep in a little longer, I was a bit.. exhausted and needed some extra rest"
girl bikini normal.png
woman bikini normal.png
bg massage empty.png
story1 2 94.png
story1 2 130.png story1 2 138.png
 
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Let me try to explain again.

The novel is going to contain SHORT stories.
So, with that, if the 1.0 version is a SHORT story for about 6 mins, then how is the 0.6 wrong?
And why is the number on a version in any way significant in this regard?
I could have versioned it 0.9 and it would still be correct, it is not a complete application, hence >1.0.

An application can consist of only 50 lines of code and be 1.0, I just fail to see any relevance here other than the sake of argument.
Do you guys prefer applications that NEVER reaches 1.0, but instead stays in <1.0 so the dev can blame "the application is not completed" forever? I do not, and am NOT going to be that kind of provider.

I repeat, when first story is completed, it will go into 1.0 no matter how short or long it is. When more stories get added, it will be >1.0
Again, the versioning DOES NOT MATTER in this regard, it is only a reference to previous versions.

The first story will be longer than 6 mins though, second day is already loaded with things happening and I have to put restrains on myself or the story would no longer be "short".
You don't understand how versioning has to be applied correctly, as alongside putting screenshots in the OP of content that doesn't exist in the current version leads people to download it thinking there is content.

Naming something 0.6, which is 60 percent complete, when it is 0.1 leads to people (as stated) downloading it and then the complaints start because you set peoples expectations incorrectly.

Try not telling everyone that you have done this to that it's all everyone elses fault because they don't understand.

Good luck with your game, I hope it does reach version 1.89765478
 

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I do not, well, no discord specifically for this user.
All good

Code:
extra/jdk21-openjdk 21.0.6.u7-1
    OpenJDK Java 21 development kit
The local repo contains the dev kit, no need for AUR but I hear what you are saying. I am still confused though.
Ah, right, just a different "flavour" of the JDK. Good to know.

Are you saying by just having JDK installed, Ren'py will suddenly ask me if I want to download tools to compile for android?
After you click on Android, it'll download RAPT (and "update" but doesn't update renpy, just adds the files). After it restarts, you can click on the "Android" build option again you get this screen which says about the lack of Android SDK
Screenshot 2025-03-21 at 1.40.22 PM.png

If you click "Install SDK", it'll try "compiling a short test program, to see if you have a working JDK on your system." making sure that you have JDK 21 installed; or that JAVA_HOME points to a JDK 21 install, which you should be able to do if you run archlinux-java beforehand (see ). It should be straightforward from then on, just make sure that "Universal APK" is checked.

After I'm satisfied with day 2 I will look a little deeper into this to see if I can include an android build too. :)

THANK YOU for helping! <3
No problem, I'm just happy to help.
 
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Because it does not matter at all. Please see: earlier comment
And no, a demo would be a 1.0 product where things are limited for you. The 1.0 should exist and a demo is a preview of that.

Can you guys please drop this obsession with a number that means nothing other than being a reference for upcoming updates.
If you are annoyed that this first release is very short, please either ignore or wait for future updates. :)

But what this thread has taught me is that a few of you do not appreciate sneak peeks or early previews, so updates will most likely not be as frequent as I initially planned.
Instead of releasing +60 images with first half of day 2 today or tomorrow, I will wait until I am completely done with day 2, and that will take time since I am still moving things around, removing parts of the story, changing small things earlier in the story to make it consistent etc etc.
I was hoping I could rely on users to point out flaws and inconsistencies because it is very easy to become blind to things when you work on it.

Maybe I should do what most other devs does and ignore the comment section here instead...

But for those of you that do not care that the initial release was short, here are some sneak-peeks of upcoming things, so you at least know I am working hard on this right now.. :)
(some of them might not be completely ready for use in production yet)

Code:
    "The boy quickly pops back to their room, softly waking his girlfriend to ask if she is ok with him going on a trek for a few hours"
    "Also informing her of the neighbors intention to invite her to a massage"
    "The girl yawns and give him a kiss"

    g "See you in a few hours baby"

    "What happens during the trek is unimportant, it was just a normal trek"
    "The reason for the man inviting the boy though was far from normal"
    "The man wanted to get the girl to spend some time alone with the woman, phase 2 is in progress"
    "Some good advice from an experienced woman has never hurt anybody right?"

    scene bg table empty
    with dissolve

    "After making herself ready for some late morning food she walked out the door and immediately ran into the woman"
    "What a coincidence..."

    scene bg table blurred
    show woman bikini smiling at left
    show girl bikini normal at right
    with dissolve

    w "Good morning honey!"

    g "Good morning!"

    w "Thank you for last night! It was fun hanging out with you guys"

    show woman bikini concerned at left
    with dissolve

    w "I hope your boyfriend is ok, he looked pretty wasted..."

    show girl bikini laughing at right
    with dissolve

    g "Haha, yeah, he is fine, he went on a treck with your husband right?"

    show woman bikini normal at left
    show girl bikini normal at right
    with dissolve

    w "Oh, he did? (the woman lies through her teeth about not knowing)"
    w "They must have bumped into each-other at breakfast, I wanted to sleep in a little longer, I was a bit.. exhausted and needed some extra rest"
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Well you r wrong it's not sneak peeks or previews that bother me it is when you label it like it actually has some content when it is just a demo and if you want us to drop it, stop trying to defend it.

If it isn't important why do you defend it every time it is brought up?
 

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All good


Ah, right, just a different "flavour" of the JDK. Good to know.


After you click on Android, it'll download RAPT (and "update" but doesn't update renpy, just adds the files). After it restarts, you can click on the "Android" build option again you get this screen which says about the lack of Android SDK
View attachment 4666460

If you click "Install SDK", it'll try "compiling a short test program, to see if you have a working JDK on your system." making sure that you have JDK 21 installed; or that JAVA_HOME points to a JDK 21 install, which you should be able to do if you run archlinux-java beforehand (see ). It should be straightforward from then on, just make sure that "Universal APK" is checked.


No problem, I'm just happy to help.
You are a freakin' boss!

I am going to be honest. I had some strange version of ren'py downloaded. THERE WAS NO BUTTON FOR ANDROID! (that's was why I was so confused and thought I needed an android version of ren'py)
I downloaded the latest version instead and yeeeeeeeah, there is a button there that says "android".

Thank you so much for taking the time and explain to an idiot like me. :)
Android build will be available for v0.7. (this will trigger people who does not understand versioning, but a roadmap I will include in the next update is now in dev notes will probably hopefully make it more clear for them.. That is all I will say about that ridiculousness... xD)
Therefore I also changed resolution to adhere to 16:9 instead of 4:3, witch also means even more work before 0.7, but I am working on it every day and it is getting there.
95% of images are upscaled and changed to 16:9 and I am currently working on the new H-scenes. Most "normal" communication images are done.
I am aware there are some inconsistencies in the images, hair color on the boy for example.

Fun fact:
If you create an image, add a layer on it in for example krita to blur the image, then upscale it with ai, the blur will almost get removed. xD

Question for anyone:
When the girl questions the reason for the boy to ejaculate, I use the word "did he cum". It looks strange to me, and not being english native.. I tired googling it, but it gives different results.
So my question: how is "cum" spelled in this situation? I have a feeling "cum" is not correct, should it be: "did he come because...." or is it actually "did he cum because..."?
Thanks in advance.

Edit:
Preview images of what the girl might be fantasizing about... Example of why "normal" ai would not work with what this dude is packing between his legs...
silhuette bj 1.png silhuette bj 2.png silhuette bj 3.png silhuette bj 4.png silhuette bj 5.png
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You are a freakin' boss!

I am going to be honest. I had some strange version of ren'py downloaded. THERE WAS NO BUTTON FOR ANDROID! (that's was why I was so confused and thought I needed an android version of ren'py)
I downloaded the latest version instead and yeeeeeeeah, there is a button there that says "android".

Thank you so much for taking the time and explain to an idiot like me. :)
Android build will be available for v0.7. (this will trigger people who does not understand versioning, but a roadmap I will include in the next update is now in dev notes will probably hopefully make it more clear for them.. That is all I will say about that ridiculousness... xD)
No problem dude, glad you got it sorted out.

Question for anyone:
When the girl questions the reason for the boy to ejaculate, I use the word "did he cum". It looks strange to me, and not being english native.. I tired googling it, but it gives different results.
So my question: how is "cum" spelled in this situation? I have a feeling "cum" is not correct, should it be: "did he come because...." or is it actually "did he cum because..."?
Thanks in advance.
The answer to this is: Yes

To quote Wiktionary (from and ):
Many style guides and editors recommend the spelling come for verb uses (to orgasm/to ejaculate) while strictly allowing the spelling cum for the noun (semen/female ejaculatory discharge). Both spellings are sometimes found in either the noun or verb sense, however. Others prefer to distinguish in formality, using come for any formal usage and cum only in slang, erotic or pornographic contexts.
or to put it simply, both are valid uses.
 
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I have no idea why this is labelled as a version 0.6, and none of the developer's comments on the matter make literally any sense. Just pure waffle.

With that said, I didn't hate what little there was. I'm becoming a little numb to all the NTR/NTS shit that is popping up all over the place, because the "marketplace" is becoming saturated, and so few of them actually keep up the development cycle to the point of actual NTR/NTS happening, but y'know, if this one reaches that point...then great. I'll definitely give this another look for the next version!
 
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