VN Ren'Py Sicae [Ep 6] [NiiChan]

[Ebonheart (FR)]

IIRC she was an original LI, but there were too many LIs so she is no longer one.

So, what is the updated list of love interests in the game after these changes ? Do we need to refer only to the OP banner to get an idea of this list ?

Does this mean that Alice, Aurora, Shina, Charlotte, Kana and Nari (have I forgotten any other characters ?) are no longer part of these love interests and will therefore no longer get any content about them ? Or will they continue to receive it, but in a much smaller way, with a very few scenes and interactions, as secondary partners for exemple ?

It is indeed a shame not to have more interactions planned with these characters, but I understand that this is due to the time constraints the developer has to face, especially with MBL's competition taking up so much of the attention.
Incidentally, I wonder if Sicae will be as much shorter than MBL because of this.

 

[NiiChan]

So, what is the updated list of love interests in the game after these changes ? Do we need to refer only to the OP banner to get an idea of this list ?

Does this mean that Alice, Aurora, Shina, Charlotte, Kana and Nari (have I forgotten any other characters ?) are no longer part of these love interests and will therefore no longer get any content about them ? Or will they continue to receive it, but in a much smaller way, with a very few scenes and interactions, as secondary partners for exemple ?

It is indeed a shame not to have more interactions planned with these characters, but I understand that this is due to the time constraints the developer has to face, especially with MBL's competition taking up so much of the attention.
Incidentally, I wonder if Sicae will be as much shorter than MBL because of this.

Kana is in the main LIs. Those that are in the character menu in-game are the ones we're focusing on. The rest is... Que Sera Sera! Whatever will be will be! The future's not ours to see! Que Sera Sera!
Alice, Nari, and Aurora have a small part in the main story, but that's it.

If we look at the papers, Sicae has a much longer main story than MBML. But the length of the game is most likely even. Since Sicae is pretty much a main story update in every episode, while MBML focuses on characters before the main story.

 

[ArDZer]

Kana is in the main LIs. Those that are in the character menu in-game are the ones we're focusing on. The rest is... Que Sera Sera! Whatever will be will be! The future's not ours to see! Que Sera Sera!
Alice, Nari, and Aurora have a small part in the main story, but that's it.

If we look at the papers, Sicae has a much longer main story than MBML. But the length of the game is most likely even. Since Sicae is pretty much a main story update in every episode, while MBML focuses on characters before the main story.

I take if a 3rd project was to be made in the future, then perhaps Alice, Aurora, Nari, Charlotte and so on could be among the main LIs there. Then again such thing will be entirely up to you of course.

 

[NiiChan]

I take if a 3rd project was to be made in the future, then perhaps Alice, Aurora, Nari, Charlotte and so on could be among the main LIs there. Then again such thing will be entirely up to you of course.

Ah, no. I already have every LIs set up in the planned third game. There are only six, and I will not add more. I learned my lesson, and I don't want my life to be in this hell again.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

Kana is in the main LIs. Those that are in the character menu in-game are the ones we're focusing on. The rest is... Que Sera Sera! Whatever will be will be! The future's not ours to see! Que Sera Sera!
Alice, Nari, and Aurora have a small part in the main story, but that's it.

If we look at the papers, Sicae has a much longer main story than MBML. But the length of the game is most likely even. Since Sicae is pretty much a main story update in every episode, while MBML focuses on characters before the main story.

Okay, thanks. I consulted the game menu as you suggested and to summarize, the list of love interests (harem) includes: Irene, Zoey, Lisa, Nicole, Eliza, Jess, Yuna, Kana.

Haha, I must admit I hadn't paid much attention to this menu in the game or the information it contains. So, it looks like we'll have at least some in-game passages/interactions with Alice, Aurora and Nari, but nothing is certain for the other girls who aren't mentioned and who are outside the official harem like Charlotte and Shina.

I understand about MBL, because some of the LIs have a liability with the main character before the game story begins, and some past events have consequences or implications that affect the present of the game action.

Ah, no. I already have every LIs set up in the planned third game. There are only six, and I will not add more. I learned my lesson, and I don't want my life to be in this hell again.

Yeah, it seems more reasonable from the outset to start with a limited roster of love interests for the MC in a future game, it's probably a lot less burdensome that way.

In my opinion, it makes more sense to limit the number of characters and relationships in a game, so that you can give them more screen time, develop them further and integrate them more meaningfully into the main plot.

I often feel that the presence of too many characters brings with it the risk of seeing some of them relegated to the background, with limited interactions, leading to questions about their real contribution to the game and its story.

P.S: It would be a crime not to make Claire/Aveline a potential LI in a future game, the character's model and personality are really cool and interesting.

She is the only one among the three badass warrior girls, including Moon and Yuna, who does not have this possibility, though it is quite understandable given her current role as the main antagonist in Sicae at the moment.

 

[NiiChan]

P.S: It would be a crime not to make Claire/Aveline a potential LI in a future game, the character's model and personality are really cool and interesting.

 

[Krytax123]

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Come oooonnnn, just give us a protag who's even more gaga

 

[NiiChan]

Come oooonnnn, just give us a protag who's even more gaga

You know you're just giving me devious ideas, right?

 

[11DMM24]

I don't really make posts often over here but I have to say this game is so good. Honestly, one of my favorites and the story is so unique. I wish this game was updated more frequently than MBML as I love this more than that especially after this update. I'll even subscribe to your Patreon when I'll receive my salary this month.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

Kana is in the main LIs. Those that are in the character menu in-game are the ones we're focusing on. The rest is... Que Sera Sera! Whatever will be will be! The future's not ours to see! Que Sera Sera!
Alice, Nari, and Aurora have a small part in the main story, but that's it.

If we look at the papers, Sicae has a much longer main story than MBML. But the length of the game is most likely even. Since Sicae is pretty much a main story update in every episode, while MBML focuses on characters before the main story.

I need help I'm trying to do a yuna only play through where I'm only with her and no one else

but I can't seem to get on her route

as a monogamy one girl only player

please tell me her route is not tied with someone else

and I have a reading disability so if you can explain what I need to do in detail

 

[NiiChan]

I need help I'm trying to do a yuna only play through where I'm only with her and no one else

but I can't seem to get on her route

as a monogamy one girl only player

please tell me her route is not tied with someone else

and I have a reading disability so if you can explain what I need to do in detail

Her official route only started during this update. It's the choice after her and Lance's fight inside the house. Choose to bang her or not. Banging her, means opening her route.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

Her official route only started during this update. It's the choice after her and Lance's fight inside the house. Choose to bang her or not. Banging her, means opening her route.

thank you thank you bless you

I restarted multiple times I didn't know what else to do thank you so much

i'm going to play it right now

 

[NiiChan]

She is the only one among the three badass warrior girls, including Moon and Yuna, who does not have this possibility, though it is quite understandable given her current role as the main antagonist in Sicae at the moment.

Oh, that's right, I forgot...

 

[11DMM24]

Are you still going to focus majorly on MBML or will you be giving more love to Sicae? I know episode 7 must be at least a year away at the moment.

 

[HiP1]

Great update. storytelling is still on point and doesn't disappoint!

Massive change for the MC's model oO even more than in MBML.
Eliza too. much closer to her MBML look.
can we hope for these kinds of upgrades for MBML too?

all the revelations about the serums made me realize that it was weird for Moon to be on guard when Lance switched to Lucien in the last MBML update. she knew MC is one of the Zeroes and with all the years they went on missions to hunt serum users, he should have used Lucien at least once.
Same with Nicole pulling out her inner monster to pressure Moon, there was no point as they should both know each other's capabilities already.

hand to hand combat animations are still so stiff. it's a ton of work to pull off, but the result feels lacking. I think it would have much more impact with static frames like the blade fights. those feels incredible and suit the mood of the game far better.

That cliffhanger was far too cruel having to wait for that many MBML updates before having the resolution of that will be excruciating. xD

I replayed from the start and a few things stood out this time:

Alice, Aurora, Charlotte and Shina are demoted to side girls ?

Zoey should remember MC the first time they meet if he is her first love and he dated her sister for years. Especially when he called her Irene. and MC not knowing Irene had a twin sister is weird. Why would she hide that ? that felt quite a bit forced. even if it's for later stories around clans.

and if Zoey joined the shared house only the day before MC and Eliza, then Yuna had been living alone in that house for years while the others sleep in the other one and come every single day in this one? it's weird that they didn't split equally, or that they go to the less populated house. would make more sense that Yuna would go to the other one for meals, and they all use the one where they sleep.

With MC's skills and training, there is no way Edward could have hurt him. MC saw him from far away, and Edward was pretty predictable. MC could have easily parried and countered him without any injury. Unless he likes getting injured and having girls worried about him... or he dreamed all his life to say "tis but a scratch" to a girl ?

MC didn't tell his mom that he works for her old acquaintance ? felt weird.

When visiting Edward in jail, Nicole has a different hairstyle than usual when in the car then she gets back to the normal one when they are in the cell. then goes to change and comes back with the first hairstyle. why not keep it the first one through the whole day ?

 

[NiiChan]

Are you still going to focus majorly on MBML or will you be giving more love to Sicae? I know episode 7 must be at least a year away at the moment.

We are currently doing a poll, and look which is winning.

IF Sicae wins this, we do Episode 7. Then MBML Chapter 2. But before that, I have to do another poll after Episode 7 to see the popularity of both games. If things are head to head, then I'll make the cycle 2:2. But I'm still not confident about it going head to head. Because we have to consider that this effect was due to the cliffhanger and the fact that people know it will be another year before another Sicae update if MBML wins the poll.

 

[ArDZer]

Great update. storytelling is still on point and doesn't disappoint!

Massive change for the MC's model oO even more than in MBML.
Eliza too. much closer to her MBML look.
can we hope for these kinds of upgrades for MBML too?

all the revelations about the serums made me realize that it was weird for Moon to be on guard when Lance switched to Lucien in the last MBML update. she knew MC is one of the Zeroes and with all the years they went on missions to hunt serum users, he should have used Lucien at least once.
Same with Nicole pulling out her inner monster to pressure Moon, there was no point as they should both know each other's capabilities already.

hand to hand combat animations are still so stiff. it's a ton of work to pull off, but the result feels lacking. I think it would have much more impact with static frames like the blade fights. those feels incredible and suit the mood of the game far better.

That cliffhanger was far too cruel having to wait for that many MBML updates before having the resolution of that will be excruciating. xD

I replayed from the start and a few things stood out this time:

Alice, Aurora, Charlotte and Shina are demoted to side girls ?

Zoey should remember MC the first time they meet if he is her first love and he dated her sister for years. Especially when he called her Irene. and MC not knowing Irene had a twin sister is weird. Why would she hide that ? that felt quite a bit forced. even if it's for later stories around clans.

and if Zoey joined the shared house only the day before MC and Eliza, then Yuna had been living alone in that house for years while the others sleep in the other one and come every single day in this one? it's weird that they didn't split equally, or that they go to the less populated house. would make more sense that Yuna would go to the other one for meals, and they all use the one where they sleep.

With MC's skills and training, there is no way Edward could have hurt him. MC saw him from far away, and Edward was pretty predictable. MC could have easily parried and countered him without any injury. Unless he likes getting injured and having girls worried about him... or he dreamed all his life to say "tis but a scratch" to a girl ?

MC didn't tell his mom that he works for her old acquaintance ? felt weird.

When visiting Edward in jail, Nicole has a different hairstyle than usual when in the car then she gets back to the normal one when they are in the cell. then goes to change and comes back with the first hairstyle. why not keep it the first one through the whole day ?

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[HiP1]

Stupid question but didnt MC have a thing with Aurora ? or am i mis-remembering

she subtly demanded sex in exchange for granting him his day off to go investigate Alex on such short notice just after he began his new job... MC doesn't really have a thing for her aside for admitting she is hot.

We are currently doing a poll, and look which is winning.
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IF Sicae wins this, we do Episode 7. Then MBML Chapter 2. But before that, I have to do another poll after Episode 7 to see the popularity of both games. If things are head to head, then I'll make the cycle 2:2. But I'm still not confident about it going head to head. Because we have to consider that this effect was due to the cliffhanger and the fact that people know it will be another year before another Sicae update if MBML wins the poll.

honestly, just work on whichever one you feel like in the moment. so you can stay creative, motivated and pour out the best work for each game and story.
asking for patrons' opinion is reasonable from a financial standpoint, but it also threatens to increase stress and burnout buildup if you are "forced" to work on the one you don't want in the moment.

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In MBML, we already know they all died. unless some people managed to hide, but I doubt it. Jess and Sicae MC said that MBML MC was the last serum users they were still searching for. now that he is found, it probably means all the serums and serum users are accounted for. Claire being Jess' aide and Hera being back in power in the Mafia in MBML are also huge hints that the new Council is gone.

 

[Krytax123]

Massive change for the MC's model oO even more than in MBML.
Eliza too. much closer to her MBML look.
can we hope for these kinds of upgrades for MBML too?

Yeah man the mc looks so much better than any othter iteration including the sicae mc in mbml. I really like Eliza's nes design too.

all the revelations about the serums made me realize that it was weird for Moon to be on guard when Lance switched to Lucien in the last MBML update. she knew MC is one of the Zeroes and with all the years they went on missions to hunt serum users, he should have used Lucien at least once.
Same with Nicole pulling out her inner monster to pressure Moon, there was no point as they should both know each other's capabilities already.

I think it made sense when Moon switched to being on guard when Lucien came out exactly because she knows about his abilitys. I dont think Lucien is (only) the nice guy we saw so far, there will be a reason why Yuna calls him monster.

She probably just doesnt trust him enough to let her guard down when the mbml mc is around who she has sworn to protect.

Maybe it plays into it that with everyone else she has the confidence to defend the mbml MC even when not on guard but due to Lucien's speed shes takes care.

The whole Nicole/Moon situation wasnt serious imo. Moon and Yuna seem to be somewhat friends (Moon wears yuna's mask nowadays and the "are you happy?"). I think Nicole was just joking around, shes aware she cant intimidate Moon (she suddenly had a microphone in her hand when she asked yuna if she lost her drive ffs

Zoey should remember MC the first time they meet if he is her first love and he dated her sister for years. Especially when he called her Irene. and MC not knowing Irene had a twin sister is weird. Why would she hide that ? that felt quite a bit forced. even if it's for later stories around clans.

Zoey did hide it, she was shown on the phone talking to someone if her cover is still intact in the cliffhanger. My guess is that was a flashback and she was talking to Jess who instructed her to not reveal who she is to the MC.

and if Zoey joined the shared house only the day before MC and Eliza, then Yuna had been living alone in that house for years while the others sleep in the other one and come every single day in this one? it's weird that they didn't split equally, or that they go to the less populated house. would make more sense that Yuna would go to the other one for meals, and they all use the one where they sleep.

Maybe there were different housemates before who moved out?

 

[NiiChan]

Eliza too. much closer to her MBML look.

I honestly did no upgrades to Eliza. I simply changed her hairstyle and added glasses.

all the revelations about the serums made me realize that it was weird for Moon to be on guard when Lance switched to Lucien in the last MBML update. she knew MC is one of the Zeroes and with all the years they went on missions to hunt serum users, he should have used Lucien at least once.

At that moment, she was more like guarding daddy Kei, not herself. And in the update, she meant what she said. She has no plans on joining their pep rally. But... she will take a role in Sicae. You'll find out, eventually. Even after being chosen as the leader, she's still pretty passive about it. She has her own world, until she goes to the other side of the story(MBML).

Same with Nicole pulling out her inner monster to pressure Moon, there was no point as they should both know each other's capabilities already.

Eh, that was just Nicole going crazy. What are the chances that Moon would even flinch, right?

hand to hand combat animations are still so stiff. it's a ton of work to pull off, but the result feels lacking. I think it would have much more impact with static frames like the blade fights. those feels incredible and suit the mood of the game far better.

THIS! This, exactly. I'm, in all honesty, torn about whether it's still worth the trouble or not.

That cliffhanger was far too cruel having to wait for that many MBML updates before having the resolution of that will be excruciating. xD

I had to do it, sorry.

Alice, Aurora, Charlotte and Shina are demoted to side girls ?

Yep. And Nari. Honestly, WHO????

Zoey should remember MC the first time they meet if he is her first love and he dated her sister for years. Especially when he called her Irene. and MC not knowing Irene had a twin sister is weird. Why would she hide that ? that felt quite a bit forced. even if it's for later stories around clans.

and if Zoey joined the shared house only the day before MC and Eliza, then Yuna had been living alone in that house for years while the others sleep in the other one and come every single day in this one? it's weird that they didn't split equally, or that they go to the less populated house. would make more sense that Yuna would go to the other one for meals, and they all use the one where they sleep.

With MC's skills and training, there is no way Edward could have hurt him. MC saw him from far away, and Edward was pretty predictable. MC could have easily parried and countered him without any injury. Unless he likes getting injured and having girls worried about him... or he dreamed all his life to say "tis but a scratch" to a girl ?

MC didn't tell his mom that he works for her old acquaintance ? felt weird.

Zoey remembered a little, but then realized it eventually.
And these, of course, prove that I didn't know what I was doing. A lot of mistakes during the first episodes.

When visiting Edward in jail, Nicole has a different hairstyle than usual when in the car then she gets back to the normal one when they are in the cell. then goes to change and comes back with the first hairstyle. why not keep it the first one through the whole day ?

That's me giving myself more work. LMAO!