VN HTML Side Effect [Ch.1 P2 v0.1] [Guma Games]

[ebuzz]

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...thx for the share...good luck....

yeah incest tag but nothing of this initial release is anything close without perhaps a mod ... hard pass on this crap

 

[Tyrranus]

strong foundation, interesting concept, bit too wordy at times. All in all quite looking forward to seeing this develop

 

[Trasher2018]

There are several errors when the game is using the default names and sometimes the names and images dont match correctly.

Overall it has way to much forced content and choices dont matter and only change the order of some events. Then you get the 2nd familiy/dream stuff - at that point I only clicked continue - especially because the amount of names was way to high. I dont understand that tendency in some of these games to throw cookie-cutter characters in the dozens at you for no good reason.
And the character overview doesnt even show the names of the characters.

 

[reknal]

I like the styling of everything. But for me there is barley any inter-activeness and its very wordy.

 

[garyH]

So, even after the rewrite, the daughter is still a nymphomaniac and self confessed cock addicted slut, but now, where I assume the gangbang video used to be, it just shows a video of her masturbating for her cam whore page.
The wife still cheated, having fucked one of her female coworkers. Not sure if it was changed from a male coworker to female or what, but cheating is still cheating.
Seems the changes were made to make the cuck shit less aggressive but didn't really remove any of it. Didn't bother playing past the part where she admitted to cheating.

 

[King Dong]

Thank you for your comment. But if you'd played the game instead of sticking to the comments your opinion might make sense. I understand you're debating ghosts. The game is in development, I'm listening to criticism and suggestions to improve the work. The game doesn't have the content you mention and the scenes that gave you this impression have been removed, rewritten and replaced. The game has no pay wall. It does have a small amount of exclusive content, which is only fair, since people who pay deserve a little more than those who have access for free.

OK, I felt bad after having made a post about a game that I didn't actually play, and basing that post on other post in the thread. That is after I got multiple upvotes, but was assured by the dev that the information I was basing my post on was wrong. So I decided it was only right that I play the current version of the game from beginning to end. So I did. I also read every post in the thread to see how others were interpreting the game.

Overall the conclusions I drew in my original post are actually accurate (the tags are wrong, and I still stand by my statements about your approach to monetization), but it was likely still a mistake to make a post about it without first hand experience. It just feels like a lot of devs don't respect other peoples time, and will mislabel their games (or leave off tags) in order to appeal to a wider audience. Then you just get blindsided by content you don't want after already investing your time. To me that feels very dishonest and so I wanted to advise you against making the same mistakes as it can break trust.

Now that I did take the time to play the game, and to read the whole thread, I might as well offer you some feedback.

1. Grammar and Writing - There were many instances of using "He/Him" were it should have been "She/Her". Some of the dialogue includes the speaker in the dialogue. The overall writing is rather "Wordy", and while that isn't technically wrong you might consider areas where you could cut back to help with pacing. Overall you should look into getting some proofreaders, and possibly an editor (or someone willing to help you edit).

2. Technical Advice - I've listed a number of "mistakes" in the game, and included some things that are "suggestions" for improving the game.

Mistakes - Mislabeled characters, Wrong Images, and the like were present throughout.

Suggestions - As for the videos I think it would be best/nice if you added a way to make them full screen and to make it possible to tell how much time remains before they loop (with the ability to replay parts). You also, might consider braking up longer videos, and distributing them throughout the passage. This way you aren't just watching a video, and then reading about what you just watched. Instead you are reading about what is happening in the video on screen.

We could really use Character Name in the Character Stats section (the role would be a nice addition as well).

I also believe the browser pop ups for relationship changes should display which relationship is changing (for clarity).

3. Observations/Responses to other Post - So, the big three I see are "Mislabeled/Missing Tag", "Wordy", and "No real choices/Choices don't matter".

I already addressed the "Wordy" issue, and you included the "Text Based" tag so you should be in the clear.

The "No real choices/Choices don't matter" thing seems pretty valid as of now (you have only a few times where you are choosing between one scene or another, and they only seem to affect relationship points (which haven't come into play yet...as far as I can tell)). Otherwise it seems to just lead to the same place either way. Now, what I will say is that isn't inherently "Wrong" if you have a story you want to tell, and don't want to leave the choices up to the players. Although, in that case you should consider the "Kinetic Novel" tag. This will let player's know that it is more about the story, and there will be little to no choices. Of course, maybe you intend to make the relationship points matter later, and so while the choices won't really affect the overall story they may affect the choices you have later.

The "Mislabeled/Missing Tag" complaints are accurate so it is really just up to you whether you fix the tags, or decide to continue to mislead the people here on this forum.

I know this a long post, and it is only one persons take on things, so do with the information what you will. Good luck!

 

[hammerva]

Again I don't like this trend of great videos with no sound. Even where there is an option to mute/unmute the video it has no sound. I am guessing it is related to file size but I am on the camp of not having an issue with large files. it is just large files that are even 20% finished.

Big fan of the game other than that

 

[kringemaster]

Hello everyone, thank you all for your comments and participation. I just want to leave a few general comments here.

The game is in development, nothing is final and everything can be changed. I'm paying attention to the comments. I'm open to good ideas and criticism. I just ask that you do so with respect and common sense.

If you have any suggestions, I'd be very grateful.
If you make your suggestions on the Discord and there are more people interested in your idea, we can put it to a vote and apply it to the game.

If you want to criticize, that's fine too. But play the game first and then give your opinion. Otherwise you run the risk of commenting on things that aren't even in the game, or that were and aren't anymore. If you don't like something, politely suggest a change.

Finally, there are people complaining that the game has paid content. This is absurd! Of course the game has paid content. It takes work to make and it's only fair that I reward those who are investing in the game's production with exclusive content. The game has 18 scenes, over 140 clips and more than 320 passages. More than 80% of the content is free.

If you've played the first version of the game, start fresh, as most of the content has been made retrospectively, with several new scenes between day 1 and day 6.

Thank you all and see you next time.

If you want my opinion-if you want to incentivize people to join the patreon, the best way would be to make cheats + the ability to watch scenes in replay a patreon only thing. Become Someone by Volen makes a ton of money and all content is free. A visual novel without certain scenes just feels incomplete to many. Or if you want to keep some paid scenes, maybe make it so that paid scenes can be accessed for free in the next update, as a compromise.

Opening by making people pay might make sense to you, but it makes nearly every player back away from wanting to play, including me. This is just how people work. There are plenty of better HTML games without paid content. I and many others will always choose those others.

I wish you the best of luck in making your game.