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p22

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Adobe Flash is dying. So there is no real interest for new developers to actually invest time in flash based games, neither modding or new development.

This is probably one of the reasons why current Patron owners were unable to get decent developer to fix and improve this game. it is professional suicide to start working on Flash project at this point of time.
 

Gutsandguts

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Dec 9, 2017
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Adobe Flash is dying. So there is no real interest for new developers to actually invest time in flash based games, neither modding or new development.

This is probably one of the reasons why current Patron owners were unable to get decent developer to fix and improve this game. it is professional suicide to start working on Flash project at this point of time.
I thought their coding was pretty bad as well though? Over time I've heard many people mention that they looked at it and it was awful.

I mean, I'm sure fixing that would be a gargantuan task for anyone but still.


I hope someone pretty much copies this games "plot" and mechanics but in a better quality product, again the pursuit of Alice is one of the most quirky fun things I've had in a porn game. Usually it's really quick to bone the girl like that but it was neat that she's not super innocent and actually does like dick.
That's all I'll really miss, though something about fairly crude art gets me.

Most of the other brothel sims around right now feel very robotic, "Get girl get money" and that's it, I hope some of them intent to have more in the way of story and actual characters.
 

tcast

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May 15, 2018
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OK, i've looked at disassembled code of 2.7 again today.
First of all i tryed to dissasemble 2.3 before(only looked at 2.7b briefly) and output code is insanely different, so i have to admit that last version was really a big update. Well, we cant see that in final product. Maybe creators lost motivation/had inner fight on how much was done and cant be apriciated by costumer.

1) Core logic readable and its easy to trace all aspects.
2) Code obfuscated - not readable variable names, pain in the ass to track them all. Also i suspect that development was slow due to flash limitations that developers had to face on later stages. Same happened to game "binding of Iisac", it also was a flash game at start, but then hit its limits.
3) New events - theoretically possible but too much time consuming on editing. It have to be 100x time longer to make any change than if we had all code on hands
4) Bug fixes - possible. both in dialog files and ~possibly~ in core logic. at least can try to fix NY event
5) New dialogs - only by removing old ones to keep file byte size.
6) Complete gym and car ride events - since they are only draft assets, id say "not possible" due to 2 and 3 parts of this list

Well, i can try to mod it after all. At least it wont be nothing. Dont want to spend to much time on this tho
 

tcast

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May 15, 2018
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Well. After playing around for about 4 hours i already
1) Tweaked this game to be not so grindy,
2) Repaired chance of Eva event in bank. Now its 50% instead of 10%(which actualy seems like 1%)
3) Integrated Gym animations in to gloryhole animations circle (still not sure if i can do the same in gym location) to check them out
4) Increased amount of animations in shop
4) increased game view pane to move lower part few pixels away from screen center so they block less
5) some minor changes i already forgot about

Thats it for now. if someone is interested, i will think about turning this experiment in to an actual mod for release
 

CouchPillow

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Well. After playing around for about 4 hours i already
1) Tweaked this game to be not so grindy,
2) Repaired chance of Eva event in bank. Now its 50% instead of 10%(which actualy seems like 1%)
3) Integrated Gym animations in to gloryhole animations circle (still not sure if i can do the same in gym location) to check them out
4) Increased amount of animations in shop
4) increased game view pane to move lower part few pixels away from screen center so they block less
5) some minor changes i already forgot about

Thats it for now. if someone is interested, i will think about turning this experiment in to an actual mod for release
That would be awesome actually. The game was pretty fun to play until it absolutely crash landed and I'm sure a lot of people would be interested to play the mod.
 

Dimmuborrgir

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Jul 12, 2018
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Well. After playing around for about 4 hours i already
1) Tweaked this game to be not so grindy,
2) Repaired chance of Eva event in bank. Now its 50% instead of 10%(which actualy seems like 1%)
3) Integrated Gym animations in to gloryhole animations circle (still not sure if i can do the same in gym location) to check them out
4) Increased amount of animations in shop
4) increased game view pane to move lower part few pixels away from screen center so they block less
5) some minor changes i already forgot about

Thats it for now. if someone is interested, i will think about turning this experiment in to an actual mod for release
I would be super interested in this! I had tons of fun playing the game and was dissapointed with how many glitch it had and how it was just left to die :/
 

TakosMilGrau

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Sep 25, 2018
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Are you working on 1.27b or a? Cuz, for this version, i've played mostly on b, and there's tons of glitches with Hitomi. Basically, the game didn't let me get any event girl after Orra, and when I tried to peek her pleasing customers, the game softlocks.
Started playing on 1.27a yesterday to check out if those things also happen, but I've heard that on 1.27a the kidnapping event is broken also. I think that, better than any mod, fixing what can be fixed would do great for now.
 

Hugos

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Mar 9, 2019
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If someone can mod this game I'm very excited to play again, the 2.7b ver can use spongebob cheat. Its bored to me -_-
 

tcast

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May 15, 2018
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Are you working on 1.27b or a? Cuz, for this version, i've played mostly on b, and there's tons of glitches with Hitomi. Basically, the game didn't let me get any event girl after Orra, and when I tried to peek her pleasing customers, the game softlocks.
Started playing on 1.27a yesterday to check out if those things also happen, but I've heard that on 1.27a the kidnapping event is broken also. I think that, better than any mod, fixing what can be fixed would do great for now.
As far as i remember, kidnap event brakes nearly in every version. Did happen for me, but it was i think 2.7b (i dont have 2.7a) or 2.6. Just couldn't get event pass bartender.
I have 2.7b. But it doesn't mater. As i saw, for example in code with Eva, event was the same and plain simple (3 conditions. if random of 1/10, if you have place, if time within scale) but it still would not work cuz of other things. Math simply dont work in that piece. Only when i removed available space logic and turned chance to 50%, event triggered. Dont know how flash work in this case, since i coded on it like 8 years ago. But i think game is too much overloaded with logic so it just drops some of it due to limitations in memory/active variables or something like that.
I wonder if I'll drop Hitomi events logic will make this game work like charm...

Also a huge drawback is that i see disassembled code which look nothing like a usual action script that flash use. So its also a pain since i dont have much expirience there and cant read it well.
 
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TakosMilGrau

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Shit. Just got stuck on the kidnap event.
Is there any way to have Alice back? Maybe if someone knows the number for the tracker on the save file editor... Then I could just edit it into my inventory and finish the event.
EDIT: just changed the "CollectorsRaid" string to 2 on the save file. The event counts as done now, so no worries. Way easier than finding the correct number for the tracker in the inventory.
 

Gutsandguts

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Dec 9, 2017
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Yeah honestly I'd like to be able to just replay the game as it is and not have it fuck up as much. I doubt they'll pick it up again and do anything substantial with it.

I like what's already there but getting it to work is annoying.

You had me at reducing the grind really.
 

Seth_Bloodmoon

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Well. After playing around for about 4 hours i already
1) Tweaked this game to be not so grindy,
2) Repaired chance of Eva event in bank. Now its 50% instead of 10%(which actualy seems like 1%)
3) Integrated Gym animations in to gloryhole animations circle (still not sure if i can do the same in gym location) to check them out
4) Increased amount of animations in shop
4) increased game view pane to move lower part few pixels away from screen center so they block less
5) some minor changes i already forgot about

Thats it for now. if someone is interested, i will think about turning this experiment in to an actual mod for release
I'd be interested. Haven't played this in awhile now but this would give me a decent reason to fire it up again. I know I enjoyed it for the most part despite its flaws.
 

Nickoshephard

Newbie
Jul 2, 2017
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Shit. Just got stuck on the kidnap event.
Is there any way to have Alice back? Maybe if someone knows the number for the tracker on the save file editor... Then I could just edit it into my inventory and finish the event.
EDIT: just changed the "CollectorsRaid" string to 2 on the save file. The event counts as done now, so no worries. Way easier than finding the correct number for the tracker in the inventory.
Can u share somewhere your's slot_0 savafile? Stuck with the same problem :(
 

ntentacle

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May 19, 2017
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Just having a version with the most recent content where half the events aren't broken would be cool. As it is, I have several copies of old versions just so that I can access the content that was added in those versions and then broken in subsequent releases.
 

TakosMilGrau

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Sep 25, 2018
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Can u share somewhere your's slot_0 savafile? Stuck with the same problem :(
Just search for "Minerva sol editor" on Google. It lets you edit the save file. Open the save file there, go to "Quests > CollectorsRaid" and set it to 2, or I think that's what i've done. The game tried to run the event AGAIN for some reason after 2 in-game days, but doing the same steps on Minerva again resolved (a lot of in-game days passed, didn't happen again).
The sad part is that the "post-event event" doesn't trigger this way, but it is better than losing Alice.
 
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tcast

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May 15, 2018
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Ok, heres some changes i managed to do so far. Btw i found a way to expand dialog base.

- Starting bonus selection now 20sp/100rep/10000$ instead of 3sp/10rep/1000$
- Base start money increased to 5000$
- Main Character now starts with all stat at 10, more health and stamina
- Some misc characters stats increased (including Alice)
- Alice now start with 60 dignity
- Male characters skin color now unlimited (4 types before 10+ now, including orcs, fury, dark elves etc..)
- You can now seduce Alice after flirt (her dignity should be dropped to 35 at least)
- Room daily cost halved
- Shower sex scene have now an option to repeat or summon your male teammates after you done
- Shower wall that was blocking the view is now removed
- Shop scene now have more animations in front of mirrors
- Reception girl can now be forced to entertain waitng clients in "how things going" menu
- Male character sit on throne now open event helper and cheat menu.
- Event helper so far include NY event starter and character NY roles select screen skip (not sure if it works, have not progressed that far on my test run)
- Cheat menu is just a mockup (nothing works, just page navigation)
- Bartender event "Fire drink" can now be repeated until Alice is kidnaped (cost money like in first run)
- Eva event happen almost every time at beginning (huge chance)
- Gym dialog progress with instructor tested (only a mockup "seduce instructor" for FC, nothing happens so far )
- Gym sex scene animations temporarily included in Gloryhole sequence
- Some test buttons with photo mode to shot during "engage" sequence
- Game Character generator now can create girls with tit size 1-5 (was only 2-4 before)
- game window expanded vertically for some pixels in attempt to shift bottom bar

New bugs most likely will appear due to my mistakes or engine limitations i wrote before

Thats all I've done in 3 days (+1 day skipped)
Now i write all this and realize how much editing this game consumed me.

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oh... heres the link to download:
 

t727

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Ok, heres some changes i managed to do so far. Btw i found a way to expand dialog base. -snip-
I really appreciate the work you put in to this as I used to like this game and I was disappointed when it got abandoned.
However the game still contains bugs, the most common being the days doesn't end properly so the saves aren't triggered.
So I couldn't progress further into the game.

Now to a question.
I used the Free Flash Decoder and managed to see the different sprites being used. However the developers of this game did some coding to create the actual characters from those sprites (arms, legs and etc are all split up)
Do you know where the assembly of those characters are made? (which script)
 

tcast

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May 15, 2018
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I really appreciate the work you put in to this as I used to like this game and I was disappointed when it got abandoned.
However the game still contains bugs, the most common being the days doesn't end properly so the saves aren't triggered.
So I couldn't progress further into the game.

Now to a question.
I used the Free Flash Decoder and managed to see the different sprites being used. However the developers of this game did some coding to create the actual characters from those sprites (arms, legs and etc are all split up)
Do you know where the assembly of those characters are made? (which script)
Thank you.
Those bugs are the reason i decide to start working on it.
As from what i understand - theres no characters. Theres animated scenes with moving body parts. Scene event start those animation on a specific looped range of frames and replace those bodypart with required. If you use JPEXS, you can see that in sprites 7000 - 7200. The main character appearance principle can be seen in cPerson.
 
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KENCUMSHAKI

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Ok, heres some changes i managed to do so far. Btw i found a way to expand dialog base.

- Starting bonus selection now 20sp/100rep/10000$ instead of 3sp/10rep/1000$
- Base start money increased to 5000$
- Main Character now starts with all stat at 10, more health and stamina
- Some misc characters stats increased (including Alice)
- Alice now start with 60 dignity
- Male characters skin color now unlimited (4 types before 10+ now, including orcs, fury, dark elves etc..)
- You can now seduce Alice after flirt (her dignity should be dropped to 35 at least)
- Room daily cost halved
- Shower sex scene have now an option to repeat or summon your male teammates after you done
- Shower wall that was blocking the view is now removed
- Shop scene now have more animations in front of mirrors
- Reception girl can now be forced to entertain waitng clients in "how things going" menu
- Male character sit on throne now open event helper and cheat menu.
- Event helper so far include NY event starter and character NY roles select screen skip (not sure if it works, have not progressed that far on my test run)
- Cheat menu is just a mockup (nothing works, just page navigation)
- Bartender event "Fire drink" can now be repeated until Alice is kidnaped (cost money like in first run)
- Eva event happen almost every time at beginning (huge chance)
- Gym dialog progress with instructor tested (only a mockup "seduce instructor" for FC, nothing happens so far )
- Gym sex scene animations temporarily included in Gloryhole sequence
- Some test buttons with photo mode to shot during "engage" sequence
- Game Character generator now can create girls with tit size 1-5 (was only 2-4 before)
- game window expanded vertically for some pixels in attempt to shift bottom bar

New bugs most likely will appear due to my mistakes or engine limitations i wrote before

Thats all I've done in 3 days (+1 day skipped)
Now i write all this and realize how much editing this game consumed me.

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oh... heres the link to download:
I cant open it :(

Thank you so much for working on the game!!!
 
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