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well I don't play games with NTR avoidable or not. So its unlikely that I will play the game, much less enjoying it.
I recommend being upfront about the plans about NTR. Will the game have it, or not? Some people, like me, don't even do avoidable ntr either, even if you can turn it off, especially in harem games.
Would rather support a game that has 100% content I am looking for instead of getting it less, or in half.
So it's best to confirm this, so people don't be pissed at you down the line when getting hit with anything controversial down the line. Also, about bisexual lesbian stuff, hoping it's optional and not forced since I am not a fan of lesbian content in harems, and I am not the only one, but I can only speak for myself.
Threesomes and group sex is fine with me with the LIs as long as the MC is always involved, but other than that, no. Just not a fan of sex scenes that don't involve the MC, or just lesbian content in general.
It's your game, I just want confirmation.
And before anyone come here saying "bullying the dev" I don't see how wanting to know if
something controversial like NTR being the game is "bullying" or "pressuring."
A dev being upfront would always be respected regardless.
So until you confirm this about NTR etc., I am going to see myself out, And good luck.
EDIT: DEV CONFIRMED NO NTR BELOW!
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OK, I will never understand the NTR debate. it is porn, folk. PORN! Who cares?! Honestly, I say wait and see. Like the dev is saying, they've only just started. Personally, I like what I'm seeing so far and if like one NTR or optional or whatever is such a big deal, that's stupid.
Give the dev a break. First timer. Call me when he has like 100s of patreons and takes a year for an update and said update is super short. THEN we can be pissed af.
Can someone PLEASE explain to me why NTR is such a debate? Who tf cares? Porn is porn! Not like we are watching gay dudes sodomize each other
I am not even going to entertain this.
if you don't know, find the clue yourself.
And no, AVNs is not just "PORN."
It's stories with PORN ELEMENTS in them.
If I want just porn, I would pull up porn hub and call it a day.
And that's all I am going to say.
And I am not going to "give the dev a break."
I am a possible supporter so I would like to know if it would be anything controversial or divisive as NTR
in this game or not.
And as a dev, a dev should always be upfront about this.
So many devs make this mistake and wonder why the threads be turning into a war zone, it 100% be the devs fault majority of the time because they are not transparent about controversial things.
So before I give a dev my money, I would rather know what I am getting into before getting hit with NTR in the middle of development.
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its a VN it stands for visual Novel -> aka a "Novel" with pictures. Im here because of the story and the characters.
IF you want random people fucking out of context go watch some stuff on Pornhub.
NTR is not only triggering to some, it also destroys characters (pretty much all characters, MC and LIs both), It disrupts the story flow and, the pacing.
Do you want NTR. And I see the dev has deleted his comments. My guess....he's probably talking to his team to discuss this debate right now. Or she....never know if women make these games lol
Hmm....I guess thats a good point. Wait, I've seen games with threesomes and some where the character could spy on someone having sex. Sometimes they work in the story, right? So is NTR just random sex or can be a story element? I just play games that I like and have an interesting story.
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WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY NTR OF ANY SORT! DECISION IS FINAL!
The world of story writing is not alien to me, but the world of making these sort of games is a new territory. My partner and I shall hereby set ourselves groundrules and maintain our promises at all costs. I apologize for any misunderstandings.
NTR is officially out of the question. We have begun work on the next Episode and hope you enjoy it. Now that we have gotten some experience, we will proceed with bringing you into the world of Simulation 69.
The world of story writing is not alien to me, but the world of making these sort of games is a new territory. My partner and I shall hereby set ourselves groundrules and maintain our promises at all costs. I apologize for any misunderstandings.
NTR is officially out of the question. We have begun work on the next Episode and hope you enjoy it. Now that we have gotten some experience, we will proceed with bringing you into the world of Simulation 69.
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If the MC is involved in the threesome then its generally not NTR, If you watch some randos that would be voyeurisms.
NTR is if a Love interest gets stolen from you, is cheating on you and so on. its generally not a good look to have Lis having sex with randos in a harem game.
That's why i said its destroys the character of the MC and the LI, because MC seems weak as fuck if he cant protect his girls , and the girl is a slut to entertain other man while she is in "love" with the MC,
also why should we the players invest hours of gameplay to learn more about the Li go on dates with her and so on if she sucks and fucks the first dick she stumbles upon in a club in seconds? In that case the progression is wack, the story is wack, and the characters are wack.
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Hmm....ok now I'm getting what NTR is. And yeah, you're right. That is a good point. So what about harem then? Like the MC watching 2 chicks open to, well, and open relationship and they're having sex while he watches and enjoys it? I'm certain I've seen scenes like that. There was a full blown orgy in the game Lust Theory and threesomes in Summer with Mia.
And aren't some heroines just hookups and fwbs?
Looks like we have our final decision lol. Hang in there, Dev!
I liked the opening, ending got me interested, LOVE the way these chicks look, and some scenes even made me laugh. I'm keeping a good eye on this game.
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A harem is one man and all the woman love him.Hmm....ok now I'm getting what NTR is. And yeah, you're right. That is a good point. So what about harem then? Like the MC watching 2 chicks open to, well, and open relationship and they're having sex while he watches and enjoys it? I'm certain I've seen scenes like that. There was a full blown orgy in the game Lust Theory and threesomes in Summer with Mia.
And aren't some heroines just hookups and fwbs?
so if we take this as definition, lesbian stuff from Lis because MC tells them to do it is fine, if the hook up with each other for the lulz or worse without the knowledge of the MC its a big no no.
IF some of the Lis are in love with each other and MC is fine with it its strictly speaking no longer a harem but a poly relationship ( I personally am fine with it in the games I play, others are not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ). It also gets slowly tiresome that all the girls in every harem game are always Bi or discover that they are Bi all along.
So its in the best interest for the dev if lesbian hookups in the harem are optional per players discretion.
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Incest patch (Episode 1)
Extract from the base folder of the installed game. In other words, the script.rpy file should end up in the game\ subfolder.
Extract from the base folder of the installed game. In other words, the script.rpy file should end up in the game\ subfolder.
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I think the same, I hope that if the dev includes lesbian content is going to be optional. I am not fan of such content
Lmaooooo, is that HIS decision though? Seems like a dude who folded like a chair after being wishy washy about it. At least the discussions will be about the actual game now. but I sense the ntr discussions coming up again here in the future... just a feelingLooks like we have our final decision lol. Hang in there, Dev!
I liked the opening, ending got me interested, LOVE the way these chicks look, and some scenes even made me laugh. I'm keeping a good eye on this game.
Honestly, I think since he's new, he didn't know what counts as NTR. I mean, I sure didn't get what NTR fully meant. He described bi sexuals and the MC walking in on them and choosing if or not to join in, right? I thought NTR was ONLY if the MC gets cheated on. Maybe he just didn't know the terms? lol.Lmaooooo, is that HIS decision though? Seems like a dude who folded like a chair after being wishy washy about it. At least the discussions will be about the actual game now. but I sense the ntr discussions coming up again here in the future... just a feeling
I mean I've been playing these games for about 1-2 years now and even I didn't know what NTR fully meant.
Right now tho, I wanna give the dev a shot. I'll wait til episode 2 or even a beta release to see if he's committed to quality.
The story caught my interest....and the chicks are my type.
Just hope the earlier NTR debate didn't make him give up instantly on trying. I wanna see more!