VN Ren'Py Sinful Summer: A Tale of Forbidden Love [Ch.3.3] [Ruykiru]

[Ruykiru]

First of all I love what I've played so far(Start of ch 2, a few scenes in) I can tell it's well written because of how genuinely infuriating I find both Erik and Helga. Legit Lyna is the only saving grace as far as likability in characters go but that doesn't deter me because I assume they both are written that way and also get better-my question(As I'm going back into it now but might quit after reading any more of their thinly veiled multitude of sexual/emotional hangups manifesting as 'toxic behavior' laden lines) how long does that take? I know we just got ch 3-are they still gaslighting and generally venting their own issues onto her as a form of vicarious shaming at this point or do we still have awhile to go?

What behaviour? Mom and son never do something "toxic" to her. In fact Lyna is the only one that does some questionable things in that vibe all the time throughout the story.

Diving deeper, Lyna was a bitch to her mom in her early teens because her parents were too strict and Helga still has kind of a grudge, plus other things. Erik was always his sister's guardian and finds weird to be in a relationship with her and it takes time to overcome that. It's not really that complex. There's some flashbacks later that explain this pretty much. Just keep reading...

I don't wanna spoil too much for you, but by chapter 3 I don't think you'll experience any of the things you're telling me now.

 

[HeathenJack]

Lescest is last?! Ouch!
I mean, they are all peak, so I guess in a fair world they'd be tied for first place.

 

[Ruykiru]

Lescest is last?! Ouch!
I mean, they are all peak, so I guess in a fair world they'd be tied for first place.

Oh, I expect that to change soon...
They've had the least amount of action for now, after all. But it's my favourite part to develop

 

[DoDoDoDODO316]

Huh. Okay. SO at the risk of exposing my own complexes I'm going to rip this band-aid off quickly as possible for you; You have buried complexes you are enforcing upon your characters(At least in the first 2.5 chapters).

I appreciate the slow-build act 1 creates but I wrongfully assumed you were writing from two dissonant perspectives; Lyna being that of going after what one desires and using the guilt(or complexes for our purposes) as a masochistic stick(Stick and carrot metaphor) and Erik being that of being repressed by convention but understanding it's futility albeit being unable to break from it because of societal/parental conditioning. Helga is also repressing her own desires and from what I've seen either has been their entire lives or at least a good portion of it and is taking the lack of fulfillment of those desires onto the only person she sees possibly fulfilling them-her own child who she sees as her 2nd self and punishes for that alone. She's a bad parent. And because of her and Johan Lyna turned into the full-on 'id' gone wild character that she is and Erik is an 'ego' sucking dick(Again look up the concepts if you don't get it) because it was mentally and emotionally beaten into him. I know porn games often get broken down to blaming the hottest chick but step back from that for a second and consider all the children(Male and female) you know whose parents made them deplorable human beings by the standards of society. If one of them was the MC of a game you'd think the same thing. Then you met their parent who browbeat their own repressed desires(Helga talks constantly about how she thought of Erik in childhood as the same way she thinks of Johan but younger. She does the same for her and Lyna.

I could literally write a dissertation on this but my point is this is a well-written game, you are a good writer-but if what you said isn't purely 'for the fans' so to speak you have complexes so deeply buried you externalized them perfectly with zero awareness of the fact which is insanely impressive and varied degrees of concerning depending on where your life is at

 

[Ruykiru]

Huh. Okay. SO at the risk of exposing my own complexes I'm going to rip this band-aid off quickly as possible for you; You have buried complexes you are enforcing upon your characters(At least in the first 2.5 chapters).

I appreciate the slow-build act 1 creates but I wrongfully assumed you were writing from two dissonant perspectives; Lyna being that of going after what one desires and using the guilt(or complexes for our purposes) as a masochistic stick(Stick and carrot metaphor) and Erik being that of being repressed by convention but understanding it's futility albeit being unable to break from it because of societal/parental conditioning. Helga is also repressing her own desires and from what I've seen either has been their entire lives or at least a good portion of it and is taking the lack of fulfillment of those desires onto the only person she sees possibly fulfilling them-her own child who she sees as her 2nd self and punishes for that alone. She's a bad parent. And because of her and Johan Lyna turned into the full-on 'id' gone wild character that she is and Erik is an 'ego' sucking dick(Again look up the concepts if you don't get it) because it was mentally and emotionally beaten into him. I know porn games often get broken down to blaming the hottest chick but step back from that for a second and consider all the children(Male and female) you know whose parents made them deplorable human beings by the standards of society. If one of them was the MC of a game you'd think the same thing. Then you met their parent who browbeat their own repressed desires(Helga talks constantly about how she thought of Erik in childhood as the same way she thinks of Johan but younger. She does the same for her and Lyna.

I guess that means they're hitting some emotional buttons though, which is kinda the point of complex characters, right? It's interesting to hear your take on Erik and Helga being infuriating, but I think you're completely missing the point in fact.

Look, I totally get why you might see them as having some fucked up hang-ups, and you're not wrong that their past and issues influence things. But I see the whole family dynamic as way more tangled up than just Erik and Helga being ''toxic'' to Lyna, like you say. Honestly, if we're talking about messed up behavior, Lyna takes the crown for sure. She's the one pushing her relatives way harder and way more often all the time, even so far as molesting them or taking advantage of their weaknesses. She's the main driver of the story (and kinda the protagonist), actively manipulating situations to explore the taboo. She's got her own deep rooted issues from the past yes, which obviously drive her actions, and she's kinda using that rebellious energy to orchestrate things.

So yeah, everyone's got their stuff going on yes, but the story is really about this shared fucked up journey into the forbidden where all three are making choices that are complex, uncomfortable, and I guess sometimes may feel ''toxic'' depending on who's doing what. However, they still love each other way too much and don't really have bad intentions. It's definitely not a simple ''Lyna is the victim and the others are evil'' setup based on how things play out.

You said you're in 2.5? I think you'll like the first scene of 2.6 with the flashbacks, where Lyna kinda breaks down and you see her true self.

I could literally write a dissertation on this but my point is this is a well-written game, you are a good writer-but if what you said isn't purely 'for the fans' so to speak you have complexes so deeply buried you externalized them perfectly with zero awareness of the fact which is insanely impressive and varied degrees of concerning depending on where your life is at

Sorry, I literally don't know what's this supposed to mean? I don't know if I should take it as a compliment or what... I never had any trauma, nor complexes, nor experienced anything close to what these characters did. I guess I'm just a great writer like you said and can put myself in their shoes

 

[aslop]

Huh. Okay. SO at the risk of exposing my own complexes I'm going to rip this band-aid off quickly as possible for you; You have buried complexes you are enforcing upon your characters(At least in the first 2.5 chapters).

I appreciate the slow-build act 1 creates but I wrongfully assumed you were writing from two dissonant perspectives; Lyna being that of going after what one desires and using the guilt(or complexes for our purposes) as a masochistic stick(Stick and carrot metaphor) and Erik being that of being repressed by convention but understanding it's futility albeit being unable to break from it because of societal/parental conditioning. Helga is also repressing her own desires and from what I've seen either has been their entire lives or at least a good portion of it and is taking the lack of fulfillment of those desires onto the only person she sees possibly fulfilling them-her own child who she sees as her 2nd self and punishes for that alone. She's a bad parent. And because of her and Johan Lyna turned into the full-on 'id' gone wild character that she is and Erik is an 'ego' sucking dick(Again look up the concepts if you don't get it) because it was mentally and emotionally beaten into him. I know porn games often get broken down to blaming the hottest chick but step back from that for a second and consider all the children(Male and female) you know whose parents made them deplorable human beings by the standards of society. If one of them was the MC of a game you'd think the same thing. Then you met their parent who browbeat their own repressed desires(Helga talks constantly about how she thought of Erik in childhood as the same way she thinks of Johan but younger. She does the same for her and Lyna.

I could literally write a dissertation on this but my point is this is a well-written game, you are a good writer-but if what you said isn't purely 'for the fans' so to speak you have complexes so deeply buried you externalized them perfectly with zero awareness of the fact which is insanely impressive and varied degrees of concerning depending on where your life is at

 

[Sossse]

I could literally write a dissertation on this but my point is this is a well-written game, you are a good writer-but if what you said isn't purely 'for the fans' so to speak you have complexes so deeply buried you externalized them perfectly with zero awareness of the fact which is insanely impressive and varied degrees of concerning depending on where your life is at

o look, another one that thinks you cant be creative w/o some deep seeded trauma. let me guess, you when you shoot ppl in gta or CoD you also have a deep seeded wish to kill ppl? surprise: sometimes such storys can derive from passion, not from somethink fu**ed up happening to you... *sigh*

 

[DoDoDoDODO316]

I guess that means they're hitting some emotional buttons though, which is kinda the point of complex characters, right? It's interesting to hear your take on Erik and Helga being infuriating, but I think you're completely missing the point in fact.

Look, I totally get why you might see them as having some fucked up hang-ups, and you're not wrong that their past and issues influence things. But I see the whole family dynamic as way more tangled up than just Erik and Helga being ''toxic'' to Lyna, like you say. Honestly, if we're talking about messed up behavior, Lyna takes the crown for sure. She's the one pushing her relatives way harder and way more often all the time, even so far as molesting them or taking advantage of their weaknesses. She's the main driver of the story (and kinda the protagonist), actively manipulating situations to explore the taboo. She's got her own deep rooted issues from the past yes, which obviously drive her actions, and she's kinda using that rebellious energy to orchestrate things.

So yeah, everyone's got their stuff going on yes, but the story is really about this shared fucked up journey into the forbidden where all three are making choices that are complex, uncomfortable, and I guess sometimes may feel ''toxic'' depending on who's doing what. However, they still love each other way too much and don't really have bad intentions. It's definitely not a simple ''Lyna is the victim and the others are evil'' setup based on how things play out.

You said you're in 2.5? I think you'll like the first scene of 2.6 with the flashbacks, where Lyna kinda breaks down and you see her true self.


Sorry, I literally don't know what's this supposed to mean? I don't know if I should take it as a compliment or what... I never had any trauma, nor complexes, nor experienced anything close to what these characters did. I guess I'm just a great writer like you said and can put myself in their shoes

There we go. that's a real response. The first one was mostly perfunctionary(Which you have every right to react to said comments in such a way).

Honestly Idgaf what Lyna does from here on out because I understand how the human brain works and that if you groom your child whom you see as a vicarious extension of yourself into an adult who pursues the same desires you repress while punishing both latter parties you are a terrible parent. That's my point. So any "manipulation" is-by any logical definition-taught behavior and therfore the fault of the parent.

 

[Ruykiru]

There we go. that's a real response. The first one was mostly perfunctionary(Which you have every right to react to said comments in such a way).

Honestly Idgaf what Lyna does from here on out because I understand how the human brain works and that if you groom your child whom you see as a vicarious extension of yourself into an adult who pursues the same desires you repress while punishing both latter parties you are a terrible parent. That's my point. So any "manipulation" is-by any logical definition-taught behavior and therfore the fault of the parent.

Yeah, I get it. Erik has always been conditioned to be the golden boy and too afraid to act against his parents, he even states so himself at some point. Lyna stopped buying the whole ambition driven life when she got older. But Helga is not a "terrible parent" my dude, just a flawed one. Even she acknowledges that she could have raised them better and that's why she started changing the last years. You keep making it sound like she or the father were like those type of parents that are drunk all day, hit their kids, or even groom them...

 

[Gabo69780]

If the game has received so much support in such a short time (it's not accident) and I repeat quote a game that speaks incest explicitlyWhat makes a good actor? film director

 

[AnnymsChrns]

How to hide the textbox on android?

 

[Ruykiru]

How to hide the textbox on android?

Swipe down. Check the gestures in the options.

 

[estrada777]

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[Ruykiru]

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[MovieMaker90]

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Eric is no longer British, Eric is now French, and he speaks when he sees her naked, mama mi.

 

[MovieMaker90]

Development Problems: Working on lesbian scenes is difficult because I'm always horny and this problem needs to be solved as soon as possible that

 

[Ruykiru]

Development Problems: Working on lesbian scenes is difficult because I'm always horny and this problem needs to be solved as soon as possible that

Not really, in fact the hornyness is what I think helps me create what I consider good horny content. I hope it never goes away.

It's not a bug, it's a feature

 

[memeLordo]

in fact the hornyness is what I think helps me create what I consider good horny content.

That reminded me of a quote from У. Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet. From the Act IV, Scene 2:

CAPULET
...
Sirrah, go hire me twenty cunning cooks.

SERVINGMAN
You shall have none ill, sir, for I’ll try if
they can lick their fingers.

CAPULET
How canst thou try them so?

SERVINGMAN
Marry, sir, ’tis an ill cook that cannot lick
his own fingers. Therefore he that cannot lick his
fingers goes not with me. ​