VN Ren'Py Single Again [v1.24.2] [Clever name games]

[KnuckleDragger79]

Some people really missing the point of what's wrong with the MC's thought patterns. No, we don't want it to be the usual "horny father fucks horny daughters in a great big no challenge sex fest" story. I've commented before how refreshing it was to have a loving father who doesn't want to do anything that could hurt his girls.

But considering the amount of sexual activity he's had with them, it's past time to own up to what's happening and either go with it or stop it. If he really thought fucking Lilith was so wrong, he could have not fucked her! Have some self control!

There's a middle ground between the usual horny father and a neurotic mess who self-flagellates after repeatedly giving in to his desires. That's where I want the MC to be. The conflict as written comes across not as realistic, but as the kind of manufactured drama you see in soap opera style stories where the boyfriend/girlfriend coincidentally arrives at a place just in time to see their partner in what looks like a consensual kiss and doesn't stick around for the 2 seconds it would take to see that it wasn't, or talk to their partner to find out what really happened.

I'll keep on with the story even if that doesn't happen soon, mostly for Lilith and because I'm eager to see him with Abby (don't care much about Becca, and would like the option to say no to Meiko) and outside of the internal monologue it's really enjoyable.

Postscript: yes, this discussion is repeating. Maybe if the dev found a more imaginative way to pace the story, it wouldn't keep coming up.

I get where you're coming form. And I will keep playing the new updates too because I love the character models. But damn. The MC is a fucking mess.....

 

[adithyabshah15]

assuming you haven't used up all of your 128gb space, check logcat for any clues. and make sure you have a proper downloaded file.
somebody else managed to get the apk from MEGA with a size of 1,67gb instead of the original 1,55gb.
here are the hashes of the file:

CRC32: 926C5487
CRC64: 60DB67550C695085
SHA256: B5385822CFA867861CA04AD7BDE727F968AB72A1523C763762F2D4535BE7BD1A
SHA1: A1ACD2F85AB6658AD326789296E5AA9810FD9C83
BLAKE2sp: AD12D68107F07D4449AC73B5D63203DCEBCE3D11F7F492C2CB88CD2559C55F86

I downloaded from mega and it is 1.55gb. Let me try to download from other link and see. Yes I have enough storage it is around 60gb free

 

[giqui]

 

[Kukipett]

I get where you're coming form. And I will keep playing the new updates too because I love the character models. But damn. The MC is a fucking mess.....

I absolutely love the girls, they are funny, cute and amazing, but the MC doesn't deserves them. I don't understand how those 3 wonderfull girls can stand that father. It's not that he is a sissy, it's the fact that he has absolutely no authority, he acts mostly stupidly, says one thing and does the opposite, he is always whining, complaining, behaving like an immature teenager.
And when we hear him complaining what does he say, he's fearing what could happen to him mostly. Fearing what people may think of him, fearing to end up in jail.
He seems to be the good caring protecting father, but when things get out of hand he thinks like a selfish prick, he's not so much bothered by what could happen to his daughters but more by what could happen to him.
So it's some kind of coward that ogle secretly at his daughters, get a hard on and then tries to get out of this by neglecting everything. He's always saying "let's say that this never happen" after a problematic event.
That's a guy who sincerely loves his daughters and would do anything to protect them, but who doesn't have the balls to either refuse any sexual behavior or accept them and behave like a man dealing with the consequences.

So when people say that it's a good choice to have a father like this and not a rapist that jump on his daughter without any regrets, they just forget that there could be a middle situation with a real adult father who acts like a responsible man and who is not the toy of his three daughters who manipulate him like a puppet!

 

[cxx]

beccy

yea from sweet and innocent girl to maneater.

 

[Sloopyhogwash]

I love the game, the models are awesome... but.. the MC is such a whiny bedwetter..constantly.. it gets old he needs to grow a pair, or at least stop whining about everything that happens..
give himself ulcers...

 

[Son of Durin]

I love the game, the models are awesome... but.. the MC is such a whiny bedwetter..constantly.. it gets old he needs to grow a pair, or at least stop whining about everything that happens..
give himself ulcers...

Kind of like this assessment of MC by every 4th commenter. I think the thread is filled with whiny bedwetters.

 

[KoGa3]

KoGa3 any chance you can incorporate a gallery in your mod, doesnt even need to unlock scenes just something to replay them once you've done them.

Sorry I overlooked this.

Unfortunately, the game does not have its own gallery, which would make it easier for me. And actually there is already a gallery Mod (but apparently no longer updated?). I'm not a specialist for doing that, I tried it only a few times. Nevertheless, it would probably be feasible.

But: my last game playthrough is VERY long ago (when I tried my first audio Mod a year ago), so I don't know the new scenes (and probably have forgotten the played one already too...). Therefore it would be very hard for me to implement the scenes to a gallery - maybe to hard. However, I will take a closer look at it when I have some time, but don't expect to much.

 

[jclosed]

Kind of like this assessment of MC by every 4th commenter. I think the thread is filled with whiny bedwetters.

Hmm... Well...

Could it possibly be that people really love the game to pieces but have some critique that is actually meant to improve the game?

I mean - There are people that are fine with the game the way it its, but other people simply get frustrated by the fact that the MC start very promising at first, but seems to slow down to an almost immovable object considering character-progression?
I mean the MC is passed left and right by all other characters in the game in if you look at character development. They feel frankly even more mature than the MC himself. It feels like the MC is stuck in a endless circle that repeats itself over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. It feels like we have a beautiful game hold back with a lot of filler that's the MC situation.

I think there would be a lot less (or even none) complaints if the MC has some decent progression, in stead of being stuck in that endless loop. As I said before - I (and I think nobody here) wants the MC from one day to another throw overboard all restrictions and jump on all the girls in sight. But it would be nice if there was at least some decent and noticeable character progression.

Don't get me wrong - I respect the choices of the developer and I really like this game, but at the other hand it's frustrating to see so little progress with the MC. I can fully understand that this frustration also hit other people, and they give their reactions here. If you take that in consideration I think it's a signal that they love the game and hate to see it pulled down by that one aspect they see as an unnecessary drawn out situation. If so many people give that reaction, it's a sign that maybe that aspect is not that great in the otherwise great game?

As said before - It's simply my personal opinion, just like other people give their opinion. Wiping away any critique on this front by calling those people whiners or, as you phrase it, bedwetters, do them no justice. Maybe as (very) small amount of "complainers" want a instant change, but I think most of them -me included- just want to see an increase in the pace of character progression the MC has. At least the MC should progress at the same pace as the people around him. Is that too much to ask?

At the end we all want a game that's enjoyable now, even getting more enjoyable. That's not a bad thing, is it?

 

[v1900]

Hmm... Well...

Could it possibly be that people really love the game to pieces but have some critique that is actually meant to improve the game?

I mean - There are people that are fine with the game the way it its, but other people simply get frustrated by the fact that the MC start very promising at first, but seems to slow down to an almost immovable object considering character-progression?
I mean the MC is passed left and right by all other characters in the game in if you look at character development. They feel frankly even more mature than the MC himself. It feels like the MC is stuck in a endless circle that repeats itself over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. It feels like we have a beautiful game hold back with a lot of filler that's the MC situation.

I think there would be a lot less (or even none) complaints if the MC has some decent progression, in stead of being stuck in that endless loop. As I said before - I (and I think nobody here) wants the MC from one day to another throw overboard all restrictions and jump on all the girls in sight. But it would be nice if there was at least some decent and noticeable character progression.

Don't get me wrong - I respect the choices of the developer and I really like this game, but at the other hand it's frustrating to see so little progress with the MC. I can fully understand that this frustration also hit other people, and they give their reactions here. If you take that in consideration I think it's a signal that they love the game and hate to see it pulled down by that one aspect they see as an unnecessary drawn out situation. If so many people give that reaction, it's a sign that maybe that aspect is not that great in the otherwise great game?

As said before - It's simply my personal opinion, just like other people give their opinion. Wiping away any critique on this front by calling those people whiners or, as you phrase it, bedwetters, do them no justice. Maybe as (very) small amount of "complainers" want a instant change, but I think most of them -me included- just want to see an increase in the pace of character progression the MC has. At least the MC should progress at the same pace as the people around him. Is that too much to ask?

At the end we all want a game that's enjoyable now, even getting more enjoyable. That's not a bad thing, is it?

You are quite right, at this point I am amazed that Becca is still interested in handholding our character through the whole process. It is just tedious to read the same internal monologue every update.

I get that the intention of the dev is to make a somewhat plausible character dealing with taboo relationships (which really are not as non of them are related to him). Considering that Frank is supposed to be a middle aged man that has gone through a lot of shit in his life, I find it difficult to believe that he would get so hung up about it.

In my time walking this earth I have met some unconventional couples (cousins, step uncle / step niece, young man / mother's best girlfriend) and non of them had the level of cringe Frank has. I will admit my social circle is quite tolerant but still.

 

[Jonny Skull]

You know with how rich Lastoya was made out to be plus her overwhelming guilt, a vacation house and two hundred grand kinda sounded a bit chintzy.

Also with that lawyer somehow unilaterally gaining Frank's power of attorney and directing a pi to take pictures of a girl who would have been a minor at the time, I'm thinking if Franks does need any more money there is probably a case against that law firm.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

You know with how rich Lastoya was made out to be plus her overwhelming guilt, a vacation house and two hundred grand kinda sounded a bit chintzy.

Yeah, this bit threw me off and if I remember correctly, MC even mentions it as if his wife's life wasn't worth much if that's all he got.

 

[pgm_01]

You know with how rich Lastoya was made out to be plus her overwhelming guilt, a vacation house and two hundred grand kinda sounded a bit chintzy.

Also with that lawyer somehow unilaterally gaining Frank's power of attorney and directing a pi to take pictures of a girl who would have been a minor at the time, I'm thinking if Franks does need any more money there is probably a case against that law firm.

I think the Sister's share of the house was bought for $800,000 but could have been $1,000,000 so assuming the Brothers' shares were $1,000,000 each, the vacation home could be worth $3,000,000. We will have to see what this vacation house looks like. There is little expectation of privacy in a public setting so a private investigator is well within the law to be taking surveillance photos.

 

[Deleted member 446419]

I didn't expect such a huge amount of content for a 0.13 version of the game. I am pleasantly surprised. Even though it isn't actually incest, the game is very nice and intriguing.

 

[Jonny Skull]

There is little expectation of privacy in a public setting so a private investigator is well within the law to be taking surveillance photos.

Indeed but I believe the rules are different when a minor is involved. But either way the lawyer acting as Franks attorney without him even knowing about it is crazy unethical.

 

[hrimthyrs]

The lawyer's assistant Hedi's pretty blatant coming onto Frank could be the beginning of her serving as an antagonist since the story seems to have mostly sidelined Shannon. Hedi is surely aware of the topic of the meeting and that Frank is now worth a fair bit with that new property that pgm_01 pointed out could be worth $3M. Wannabe step-mom might try to swoop in and break up the fledgling step-daughter harem, no-strings liaisons with Elizabeth, club hookups with Darla, and whatever hasn't quite come to a boil with Mei hoping to gain control of the Lastoya inheritance.

 

[Watcher X]

Hmm... Well...

Could it possibly be that people really love the game to pieces but have some critique that is actually meant to improve the game?

I mean - There are people that are fine with the game the way it its, but other people simply get frustrated by the fact that the MC start very promising at first, but seems to slow down to an almost immovable object considering character-progression?
I mean the MC is passed left and right by all other characters in the game in if you look at character development. They feel frankly even more mature than the MC himself. It feels like the MC is stuck in a endless circle that repeats itself over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. It feels like we have a beautiful game hold back with a lot of filler that's the MC situation.

I think there would be a lot less (or even none) complaints if the MC has some decent progression, in stead of being stuck in that endless loop. As I said before - I (and I think nobody here) wants the MC from one day to another throw overboard all restrictions and jump on all the girls in sight. But it would be nice if there was at least some decent and noticeable character progression.

Don't get me wrong - I respect the choices of the developer and I really like this game, but at the other hand it's frustrating to see so little progress with the MC. I can fully understand that this frustration also hit other people, and they give their reactions here. If you take that in consideration I think it's a signal that they love the game and hate to see it pulled down by that one aspect they see as an unnecessary drawn out situation. If so many people give that reaction, it's a sign that maybe that aspect is not that great in the otherwise great game?

As said before - It's simply my personal opinion, just like other people give their opinion. Wiping away any critique on this front by calling those people whiners or, as you phrase it, bedwetters, do them no justice. Maybe as (very) small amount of "complainers" want a instant change, but I think most of them -me included- just want to see an increase in the pace of character progression the MC has. At least the MC should progress at the same pace as the people around him. Is that too much to ask?

At the end we all want a game that's enjoyable now, even getting more enjoyable. That's not a bad thing, is it?

I'm not exactly sure of the timeline, but this story has been played out over several months. In that time Frank has fucked two of his stepdaughters, sleeps with a naked third daughter and has banged a lesbian neighbour. Clearly, his morality is crumbling despite his best efforts and anguish to fight against his fall into depravity. If that isn't character development I don't know what is.

Because it is a porn game people just assume sleeping with multiple people and relations is normal, when in reality we would struggle with our moral compass. Frank's inner monologues, his whining and constant angst is a personality trait. You may not like it, and many people don't, but it's his personality and to demand it be changed this late in the game would ruin the character and everything that has happened in the story so far.

 

[hrimthyrs]

I'm not exactly sure of the timeline, but this story has been played out over several months.

I agree with your basic point, and only want to add that it's actually only been a couple weeks. You can see this in the walkthrough if you don't want to play through the game again, but each new day shows the date. The game opens March 30th and version 0.13 adds April 12th. Frank is moving along far quicker than the complainers give him credit for.

 

[Son of Durin]

Hmm... Well...

Could it possibly be that people really love the game to pieces but have some critique that is actually meant to improve the game?

I mean - There are people that are fine with the game the way it its, but other people simply get frustrated by the fact that the MC start very promising at first, but seems to slow down to an almost immovable object considering character-progression?
I mean the MC is passed left and right by all other characters in the game in if you look at character development. They feel frankly even more mature than the MC himself. It feels like the MC is stuck in a endless circle that repeats itself over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. It feels like we have a beautiful game hold back with a lot of filler that's the MC situation.

I think there would be a lot less (or even none) complaints if the MC has some decent progression, in stead of being stuck in that endless loop. As I said before - I (and I think nobody here) wants the MC from one day to another throw overboard all restrictions and jump on all the girls in sight. But it would be nice if there was at least some decent and noticeable character progression.

Don't get me wrong - I respect the choices of the developer and I really like this game, but at the other hand it's frustrating to see so little progress with the MC. I can fully understand that this frustration also hit other people, and they give their reactions here. If you take that in consideration I think it's a signal that they love the game and hate to see it pulled down by that one aspect they see as an unnecessary drawn out situation. If so many people give that reaction, it's a sign that maybe that aspect is not that great in the otherwise great game?

As said before - It's simply my personal opinion, just like other people give their opinion. Wiping away any critique on this front by calling those people whiners or, as you phrase it, bedwetters, do them no justice. Maybe as (very) small amount of "complainers" want a instant change, but I think most of them -me included- just want to see an increase in the pace of character progression the MC has. At least the MC should progress at the same pace as the people around him. Is that too much to ask?

At the end we all want a game that's enjoyable now, even getting more enjoyable. That's not a bad thing, is it?

I mainly just wanted the whiner to know he was being a whiny bed wetter.

 

[UncleFredo]

I agree with your basic point, and only want to add that it's actually only been a couple weeks. You can see this in the walkthrough if you don't want to play through the game again, but each new day shows the date. The game opens March 30th and version 0.13 adds April 12th. Frank is moving along far quicker than the complainers give him credit for.

The issue is that the bleating and whining doesn't change. His actions and decisions have virtually no impact on his hand wringing. His internal monologue has barely changed. So Frank, in his own mind, despite his actions, hasn't moved along, and we the players suffer repetitious walls of textual whining.

You can say "hey it's only been about 2 weeks", but from a playing stand point it's been 13 releases beating us around the head and shoulders with the same unchanging mantra. That really detracts from the play. As I said earlier, this has devolved to player/reader punishment. Long past time for Frank, to take an honest view of himself, the consequences of his actions, his desires and the clearly stated desires of the ADULT women with whom he's become intimate, and behave like a responsible adult.