Unity Completed SiNiSistar 2 [v1.0.3] [Nennai 5]

[Shirou x Irisviel OTP]

I have every possible proof that babies get corrupted into broodlings. And it is your (as the accusator ) fucking job to find any examples of normal pregnancies happening in the game.
So far, it's YOUR headcanon that pregnancies can still go normally, despite every single example provided by the game telling that that is not the case.
All you have are your own headcanon and unproven speculations.

As of now, the best assumption to make is that human babies were still a thing before the priest took the pregnant women and their infants, but the curse was acting up stronger as the days passed. By the time Leila and Haanja arrive at Arcezon Town, only abominations can be born from any human woman impregnated within the region of Arcezon -even Leila is afflicted by this curse once she loses her Blessing of Infertility. The game offers no clue that normal births are still happening; the only one who even tried was that young blond woman who almost gets eaten by the zombies, and you can deduce from her dialogue she acknowledged that trying for a baby with"what's his name" was a terrible idea (emphasis made in letting him come inside her as a mistake, not having sex in the first place). Should a future update reveal that human births can still happen, we should expect a good explanation or clues for a new headcanon. But as of now, this is what we have, this assumption based on our ideas and what the lore and dialogues offer, plus Leila's personal experiences when pregnant.

I believe it fits the worldbuilding quite well, even if disproved in the future. Think about it. The Abomination Outbreak is causing human extinction by killing villagers and stopping human births in the town, the region, and eventually further if the Otherworlder and its followers are not stopped in the short term. The Blessing of Infertility protects the Sisterhood from becoming mothers of demi-humans and abominations, or worse, when they become vessels/mothers of an Otherworlder; but the price is renouncing their chance as human mothers, which is why this protection would be suicide if applied to women in villages and towns threatened by an outbreak. A lack of human births, even if the towns remain protected for the most part, creates a sense of despair for the people and a sense of urgency and commitment for the Sisterhood: killing the monsters and the cults is not enough, they need to remove the hold the Otherworlder has on the land and its people by slaying its revealed form.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

None of which prove nor support your reasoning that this would happen 100% of the time and that somehow this is factual.

Accusator? Me? lol FYI, you were the one who quoted my review in the first place, claiming that human pregnancy is 100% impossible in the game and that somehow this is a clear fact you can find in the game. I simply asked why we are not seeing human pregnancy when there are characters in the game including the MC who are "literally" begging the same question. Way to flip the tables on me pal.

Except there was no headcanon on my part. I simply asked a question with the evidence based on what the in-game characters said "literally" word-for-word. You are the only one here talking in absolutes bro. And so far, you are unable to back up what you have been saying. I have no idea why you are even keep sending me vague screenshots with no straightforward answers if this was something so obvious.

I've been presenting proof over and over, even attaching ingame screenshots.
While you've just kept repeating the same line about "headcanon" and "being factual". Like a broken record.

 

[billnyefortheplotguy]

New version out is anyone else having some performance issues? Its better now with 1.0.2 but it's still not ideal

 

[xxxemperor]

And again, you're just pulling shit out of your ass. Pure speculations without ingame proof.
"Common sense" my ass. Show me in the game where it says that normal babies can still be born.
Until you do, all your "arguments" are nothing more than headcanon.

I feel like I am talking to a solid wall at this point. I have absolutely no clue why you are keep asking me for proofs on something that didn't happen in the game. Especially when I was the one who asked that very question.

Edit: And of course I can refute that one singular dialogue line you cling to. Lilia's reaction to pregnant woman.
You can go to that map and encounter the pregnant woman right after the tutorial, at which point Lilia and Haanja barely just arrived to the town. Which means Lilia didn't expect that corruption was so dire, that babies were being corrupted into broodlings right in the womb.
So it can be waived away as Lilia being surprised about the discovery.

What are you even talking about? Human fetuses do not get turned into abomination brooding. Abomination brooding are monster fetuses from the getgo. Check the description text on Abomination Brooding Harbinger bro. And doesn't this directly disprove your notion that human pregnancies no longer occur in the game?

 

[xxxemperor]

I've been presenting proof over and over, even attaching ingame screenshots.
While you've just kept repeating the same line about "headcanon" and "being factual". Like a broken record.
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You did a great job of telling me how apples are red. But yeah, nope. Sorry, you couldn't convince me how all apples are red.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

I feel like I am talking to a solid wall at this point.

Bro, you were that very wall from the very beginning, when you suddenly lashed out at me like a mad dog. Lmao.
So zealously defending the headcanon you yourself now pretend to question.

What are you even talking about? Human fetuses do not get turned into abomination brooding. Abomination brooding are monster fetuses from the getgo. Check the description text on Abomination Brooding Harbinger bro. And doesn't this directly disprove your notion that human pregnancies no longer occur in the game?

That's literally just semantics, even the game refers to them as babies sometimes:


Gonna start nitpicking game's own wording now, trying to prove the game somehow wrong? Lol.

 

[Seracjuze]

It's something called common sense. There is no reason why the villagers would react that way if it weren't at all possible to conceive a human child anymore. The villagers were in contact with abomination brooding long enough to know better. And again, there's Lilia. When she notices dark aura oozing off of the pregnant woman's belly, she suspects she might not be carrying a human child. There is no reason for her to react that way if there were no other option but to birth a monster baby when you are impregnated.



Bro, I am beginning to question if you are dyslexic. None of the screenshots you've posted there confirms your headcanon that every pregnant woman in the game will give birth to abomination brooding 100% of the time regardless of who they mate with. You made a bunch of bullet points talking in absolutes but the screenshots you've submitted only show how and why women in game are giving birth to abomination brooding. They do not at all support your reasoning that this is 100% the case with all pregnancy.

To play devils advocate: There is a reason for Lilia to react that way. She is new to this land, the game starts with the sisters coming here to investigate the situation, so there is no reason for her to know how severe the corruption is here. It's probably not this bad everywhere in the world which is why the got sent here to investigate.

 

[Mod Learner]

As I said before, don't just apply normal logic into the game (like try to explain why Lilia got pregnant with monster even though she have have sex with the villager). It's just simply because the author not go develop that realistic logic into the game. When she lose the bless, and have sex, she got pregnant monster child, even if she got pregnant, she'll never give birth, until she got caught by some monster with sex desire to fuck her, and end up bearing that latest monster child. That's just the game function, not real life logic.
If you lose the bless and go back the Northeast Village, get capture by the Priest, he'll rape her, parasite her and she got semen build up WITHOUT get pregnant, don't surprise, even normal village have sex one night cause her pregnant monster child but the SUPER BOSS unable get her pregnant, because simply the game function scripted like that. And if you let the monster in this village rape you, got pregnant, escape, go somewhere else with different monster that also have sex desire and get raped again, in the end she'll bearing that latest monster child, not the one from Northeast Village.
Also even though the Priest got defeated, he'll appear again whenever she come back the village.
Try to augment the game with logic totally pointless.

 

[Seracjuze]

As of now, the best assumption to make is that human babies were still a thing before the priest took the pregnant women and their infants, but the curse was acting up stronger as the days passed. By the time Leila and Haanja arrive at Arcezon Town, only abominations can be born from any human woman impregnated within the region of Arcezon -even Leila is afflicted by this curse once she loses her Blessing of Infertility. The game offers no clue that normal births are still happening; the only one who even tried was that young blond woman who almost gets eaten by the zombies, and you can deduce from her dialogue she acknowledged that trying for a baby with"what's his name" was a terrible idea (emphasis made in letting him come inside her as a mistake, not having sex in the first place). Should a future update reveal that human births can still happen, we should expect a good explanation or clues for a new headcanon. But as of now, this is what we have, this assumption based on our ideas and what the lore and dialogues offer, plus Leila's personal experiences when pregnant.

I believe it fits the worldbuilding quite well, even if disproved in the future. Think about it. The Abomination Outbreak is causing human extinction by killing villagers and stopping human births in the town, the region, and eventually further if the Otherworlder and its followers are not stopped in the short term. The Blessing of Infertility protects the Sisterhood from becoming mothers of demi-humans and abominations, or worse, when they become vessels/mothers of an Otherworlder; but the price is renouncing their chance as human mothers, which is why this protection would be suicide if applied to women in villages and towns threatened by an outbreak. A lack of human births, even if the towns remain protected for the most part, creates a sense of despair for the people and a sense of urgency and commitment for the Sisterhood: killing the monsters and the cults is not enough, they need to remove the hold the Otherworlder has on the land and its people by slaying its revealed form.

Personally I'm on this side of the argument. Corrupted babies were a rarity at first, resulting in the demihuman god and the leech broodling, but the plague is gradually getting worse and worse over the years and when the game takes place it's at a boiling point. Basically when the despair truly sets in and the pregnant woman is one of the last woman around to desperately cling onto hope for a regular birth but even her hopes are crushed, making her regret even trying.

 

[xxxemperor]

Bro, you were that very wall from the very beginning, when you suddenly lashed out at me like a mad dog. Lmao.
So zealously defending the headcanon you yourself now pretend to question.

Lashed out? lol I feel pretty tame but okay.

That's literally just semantics, even the game refers to them as babies sometimes:
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Gonna start nitpicking game's own wording now, trying to prove the game somehow wrong? Lol.

No, that would be actual human babies but born cursed under otherworlder's influence. We are talking about Harbinger here. The description shows it immediately seeps in the moment the semen hits "the mother's blood" (conception?), meaning it directly forms the fetus itself. It doesn't corrupt the already existing one.

 

[Axeltheflurryofflames]

The pregnancy system is a complex system that includes childbirth, emotions, and child-rearing. Referencing the complete pregnancy system in LonaRPG, it would take Nennai months to implement just this feature. You’d better not expect or demand this, as it would delay more important things like additional h-scenes or story content.

No kidding, and there was nowhere I was suggesting such if you actually read my post, let alone the context to it with me responding to another user suggesting that DLC *might* add further depth to the system, a system that I already feel has plenty of content and purpose in the base game as is. The only thing I stated at all is more to point out that, regardless of WHAT knocks you up, the system only accounts for what you end up getting a Game Over from, rather than what actually gave you the pregnancy to begin with, which not an awful system by any means does break a bit of the logical consistency at times. It makes sense for the Abomination Broodlings and such as there is already evidence in the game that said phenomenon is occurring for others, not just the player, but being knocked up by a Demi-human, running over to the pig farm, and losing there only to birth pigs rather than the initial demi-human child is a bit odd. Not a major issue in what is a pretty fantastic game given all the statuses, let alone pregnancy related systems the game has to offer, but it is a nitpick and something I just find moreso odd than really a detriment to the game as a whole.

In other words, yes, I not only expect, but would rather the developer focus on new stages/levels with what mechanics are already present in the game and focus more so on new status effects if ANYTHING at all that might effect the player beyond just being new game overs and sex scenes for the inevitable new levels we'll get if DLC does come. Game has a solid enough basis to build off of for all sorts of stuff, so just more of a good thing is something I'd be happy to have, rather than building up mechanics that are already plenty solid on their own.

 

[Shirou x Irisviel OTP]

Ok, let's calm down a bit. Everything is technically headcanon until proven by the game itself. So far, we know the following:

1. In hopes of understanding why abominations were being born from women who were never kidnapped by monsters, the local church went to Arcezon Town and convinced/pressured the people to give up their pregnant women and infants at the time. This makes me believe that the problem of human women giving birth to abominations and villages getting destroyed due to this was already a thing.

2. Looking at Arcezon Town, we can conclude that it has not suffered raids like the one we stop in the game, since there is no way it would still be there by the time Leila and Haanja arrive. Having most of their women capable of giving birth and their children taken away to never be seen again certainly explains the lack of people. Can't be sure if the women we rescue, besides the carpenter's daughter, are from Arcezon Town or used to be from some other village destroyed by the demi-humans.

3. The situation with the pregnant woman we rescue seems to point out that she knew it was a bad idea letting her lover cum inside her. Her brother did not suspect she was pregnant with an abomination until Haanja confirmed it, and it was only afterwards that he showed concern when Leila herself was pregnant. We can deduce, based on the lore for the Harbringer and what I just stated, that human births are not a thing anymore, but the townpeople still don't know the whole thing. The player knows, the Sisters realize what happened to the girl, but the people still don't know about the curse of the Otherworlder. And given point number one, the few women capable of conceiving children are probably encouraged to avoid that due to the fear that the church will take them away as well....yeah pretty fucked up situation.

4. Taking Leila's experience as an example and assuming the lover of the pregnant woman was just some random dude and not an abomination or priest with rizz and a pretty good disguise, I conclude that, regardless of the townspeople having good reasons to avoid pregnancies (avoid the church taking away their young women again), human births not being a thing until the curse is removed is the stronger argument. Unless Leila's situation is explained as an outlier and not simply part of the norm, there is not enough in the lore or dialogues in favor of human births being a possibility by the time Leila and Haanja arrive at Arcezon.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

No, that would be actual human babies but born cursed under otherworlder's influence. We are talking about Harbinger here. The description shows it immediately seeps in the moment the semen hits "the mother's blood" (conception?), meaning it directly forms the fetus itself. It doesn't corrupt the already existing one.

Again you're repeating same shit as a broken record. It's just semantics, the game refers to them in several different ways throughout its course:



But if you want to play that game, fine, I'll humor you for a bit.

Spoiler: Fetus VS Broodling talk

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And before you proclaim "Gotcha!", that was my fucking point from the start. Human babies can't be born, because they get corrupted into broodlings.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Ok, let's calm down a bit. Everything is technically headcanon until proven by the game itself. So far, we know the following:

1. In hopes of understanding why abominations were being born from women who were never kidnapped by monsters, the local church went to Arcezon Town and convinced/pressured the people to give up their pregnant women and infants at the time. This makes me believe that the problem of human women giving birth to abominations and villages getting destroyed due to this was already a thing.

It's actually been going on for years, ever since they dug out the underground valley, in fact.

Spoiler: Valley boss description

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Edit:

Spoiler: Elder Woman talks

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Based on the elderly woman's dialogue, the corruption had been slowly progressing for decades.

 

[Shirou x Irisviel OTP]

Then that fits well with the church taking the drastic action of taking away the pregnant women of Arcezon Town. Not the best idea, honestly. That seems more like a mad scientist approach to find success. Can you confirm if the priests at the time were well-intentioned extremists or simply pretending to get their ritual victims?

 

[DanteR12]

Are you really having a forum war about a porn game lore?

 

[Shirou x Irisviel OTP]

It seems to be the case, LOL. I just hope we can all chill and enjoy our respective headcanon. I stand by my points, but those who don't agree can do so just fine. I did try creating a timeline for the second game being a prequel, just for fun. But this shows how succesful was the game in getting us invested in it, quite imppressive honestly.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Then that fits well with the church taking the drastic action of taking away the pregnant women of Arcezon Town. Not the best idea, honestly. That seems more like a mad scientist approach to find success. Can you confirm if the priests at the time were well-intentioned extremists or simply pretending to get their ritual victims?

There's no concrete line stating when they got all corrupted. But I presume that when they all suddenly "disappeared", they were already serving the otherworlders.

Spoiler: Haanja's dialogue is the most concrete estimation we have, but it's still pretty vague

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That particular conversation with Haanja is the biggest lore drop we have so far.

Also, as we see several corpses (petrified and turned into gold) of the sisters in the cathedral treasure rooms, it can be surmised that uncorrupted loyalists were fighting back well past the point when corrupt priests started making broodlings on purpose.
But it's all speculation, because the game doesn't provide any dates.

 

[Mig-31B]

Are you really having a forum war about a porn game lore?

It's hilarious that a hardcore porn has deeper plot than AAA titles.

 

[Seracjuze]

It's actually been going on for years, ever since they dug out the underground valley, in fact.

Spoiler: Valley boss description

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Spoiler: Elder Woman talks

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Based on the elderly woman's dialogue, the corruption had been slowly progressing for decades.

it is also noted in the lore bit of the demihuman god and the leech broodling that they have been born years ago.