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With the developers recent blog post, we now have confirmation that SiNiSistar 2 is now moving onto content updates after two weeks of bugfix updates. Now as for what those content might be, I would like share my own thoughts about it and speculate on what will be added to the game in the future.
What Nennai has confirmed they will be implementing in the coming updates:
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Outside of actually adding onto the currently half-baked ending which had us all going "wtf happened", Nennai has confirmed that they would be adding everything we have been asking for over here in this forum. The village will finally have more content outside, the Spider fans from the first game are now satisfied, more enemy variety to break up the rather monotonous trek across the Highway each playthrough, and more costumes! Great for everyone who has been looking to the modders for more skins. (Again, the modders in this community are the absolute GOATs!)
The only thing that confuses me is the expansion of the Vampiric Swamp. Apart from the complaints from others here that it was rather short, and the final music wasn't as good as the beta versions, I honestly thought the level was alright. Maybe the expansion is to make room for the Spiders, considering the area is themed around leeches and those flies, but I also speculate that it's to add another path to a future area. I assume this because Nennai mentioned that they would be implementing all the ideas they had in development but couldn't do so. And from reading through the various early Ci-en blog posts Nennai wrote during the game's development here are my personal thoughts on what may be the new content added to the game.
Enemies
Bandits - A staple of every fantasy H-game, Nennai expressed interest in having bandits be a part of SiNiSistar 2 very early on in development; back when Lilia and Haanja were just concept art designs. According to Nennai, they were to be one of the few non-monster enemies in the roster. They were ordinary people forced into banditry most likely due to the destruction wrought by the Abomination Broodlings and Nennai states that they would rob and eat unsuspecting people they came across, which really speaks to how devastating the Otherworlders are to Arcezon that cannibalism would've been widespread outside of Arcezon Town.
Now what is interesting about the bandits are the gameplay and lore implications they would have should they be implemented. According to the Ruffian gallery description, sisters of the church are forbidden from harming people due to their vows and that purification magic has no effect on humans.
(This lore bit is also why Nennai created the parasitic villagers in the Abandoned Village. They were originally supposed to be brainwashed humans but were scrapped and became monsters instead since he didn't want Rabiane to harm or kill humans.)
If bandits were to reappear as a common enemy or as a mid-boss, they would be an enemy that can only be harmed by pure melee as magic would do 0 damage to them. This would make them immune to the common cheese tactic of just spamming magic/explosive arrows so it would make for an interesting encounter.
As for H-scenes, it'll likely be the standard gang-rape where each of the bandits take turns fucking Lilia. However, as much as I want a scene/game over where the brigands would keep Lilia as their personal sex slave or sell her off on a nearby slave market/auction or to the townsfolk/Traveling Merchant, that wouldn't be the case here. Nennai planned on SiNiSistar's take on bandits to be cannibals in a world where food is hard to come by. Most likely should Lilia fail to escape, she would just be cut up and eaten as meat.
Vampires - As strange it may sound as they're a stereotype in these kinds of settings, vampires were intended to be a part of the second game since the start of development. According to Nennai, vampires were classified as a 'Heretic' type enemy and they were supposed to be working together with the Priests in spreading Otherworlder influence across Arcezon and heralding the mortal vessel of the 'Father'. As such, they were to be a major threat in Lilia's quest to stop the Otherworlders.
Unfortunately, they never made it past the conceptualization stage as Nennai instead focused on the Demi-humans as they wanted to add a goblin/orc type enemy since even before the first game was finished. The only known quest featuring vampires that I know of was when Nennai entertained the idea that Lilia would find a father taking care of his sick son in the woods and would give him medicine for his child. When Lilia would return, she would find the father dead and the son transformed into a child vampire. Should Lilia lose, she would be killed by the vampire child, who would tear open her throat and drink all of her blood.
Should vampires be implemented back into the game, they probably wouldn't have the same prominence they had when Nennai first visualized them since the Priests are now the sole reason why Otherworlder influence has become so widespread. They would most likely just be symptoms of the problem, not one of the root causes. As for how they would appear as enemies, they'd probably appear in either the Vampiric Swamp (because of the name), on the Highway, or in an entirely new area.
Village NPCs
Female Mercenary
First appearing in the concept art stage around the same time as Lilia and Haanja, the Female Mercenary was supposed to appear in Arcezon Town as one of its defenders. Unlike the two sisters however, she did not have any purification magic whatsoever and only fought using a sword. According to Nennai, her quest would've involved her being kidnapped by an Otherworlder and it would've resulted in her transforming into one, or with her being eaten by them and said Otherworlder inheriting her memories of using the blade.
While a minor quest, it would served to further expand onto SiNiSistar's world building as it illustrates why armies hadn't been mobilized to slow the spread of the Arcezon/Kessaria disasters. According to Nennai in their blog post, without purification magic, regular soldiers such as the Female Mercenary would only be able to fend off monsters temporarily with conventional weapons. Against large groups of monsters or more powerful beings, they would be as helpless as any ordinary human would be against them.
This is why the Church sends exceptional sisters with great skill over purification magic (Referring to Lilia and probably Rabiane as well in the blog post) to deal with the outbreaks as despite not having great physical strength, their ability to defeat "otherworldly monsters" makes them more valuable than their male Holy Knight counterparts.
(So that answers the whole question earlier in the thread about how effective conventional weapons are against monsters [@Shirou x Irisviel OTP & Mig-31B] and that cool crusade idea you brought up Zanurah)
Unfortunately, both her and her quest did not make it past the concept art stage so all that lore wasn't included in the game. When Nennai outsourced the NPC designs to Shishikura Sendou (A Mangaka Artist who drew the Town NPCs and the Gravekeeper), the Female Mercenary did not make a reappearance, so she did not return for the final product. However, given that Nennai already has a design for her, it's possible she may return in the coming updates.
Town Guards - One of the early NPCs Nennai conceptualized early in development, Town Guards were the standard guard NPCs defending Arcezon Town from the monsters. While no doubt such a role didn't really add much other than atmosphere which was probably why they were cut, there was an interesting event idea that was entertained by Nennai but was never finalized.
According to his blog post, there was an idea that one of the guards would fall in love with Lilia, so he brokered a deal with the Priests to have her all for himself. He would then approach Lilia and inform her of a strange monster he saw outside of town, prompting Lilia to accompany him. After doing so, he would give Lilia a sleeping pill causing her to fall unconscious. When she reawakens, she discovers the guard talking with a priest about their deal and upon realizing she's awake, a boss fight begins where Lilia fights both the guard and the priest at the same time.
Should she lose, the priest would either take away Lilia's soul or feed her drugs that turn her into an invalid. The scene ends with a game over where the guard continually has sex with his "beloved" Lilia who by this point is nothing more than a lifeless sex doll.
Unfortunately, Nennai reiterates in that same blog post that both the guard idea and the vampire child (that I mentioned in the Vampire section) H-scenes were just ideas they were entertaining and aren't actually final. Given that both didn't make the final cut, it's obvious it was never in the cards. A shame too, since its such a great idea. I'm personally hoping that it would return as one of the new Town events in a future update.
Locations
Isolation Ward - An unused area that was removed after the Version 1.7.0 early test builds prior to the game's release yet still present in the game's code as discovered by mk40. Designed to be the birthplace of the Bobel enemies scattered throughout the game, this area was most likely planned to be the equivalent of the 'Laboratory' level from the first game so we may see the return of the 'Rat King' and the 'Doppelganger' bosses. As it's still in the code, this would most likely be the next area Nennai would implement in a future update.
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I could be mis-remembering - but I don't know if I saw the surprise. What was it?Ok, Demihuman events and Tentacle_Cave are completed with No Vail / Transparent
there is some bonus surprise at Tentacle Boss Battle
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Seracjuze
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"Everything"? Confirmation on Haanja content doko? Missing only the MOST important part.
Also I'm ever so slightly hurt about not getting a mention here considering I gave a (I think) pretty reasonable in game evidence why conventional weaponry would be no good. :<
Aaaanyway, thanks for the moonrune translations.
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They are not exactly enemies, especially since the worst they can do is get Leila pregnant after the blessing of infertility is removed. The drunkard and the ruffian duo should get more content for possible game overs before any bandit can come into play. Besides, I would find it ludicrous that some random ass bandits manage to survive in a countryside filled with abominations and with Arcezon being the only place to raid.
Unless they are hiding in Arcezon, probably in some Catacombs...which can open the way for an extra stage, maybe an additional monster boss and its minions preying on the town in secret. Like the first mission in Lut Golein (Diablo II).
eryson
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About the fear of the Haanja stuff be denying the game release's aprovation on steam: we can try to suggest the developer to make Haanja's breasts bigger or at least noticeable.
a fellow developer were aware of this stuff and avoided it making the game's Lolibaba's character (that does much like how Haanja do in sinisistar, being a support) breast bigger. the game nowadays were succesfull launched on steam without any issues.
how it looks like in Dlsite version:
a fellow developer were aware of this stuff and avoided it making the game's Lolibaba's character (that does much like how Haanja do in sinisistar, being a support) breast bigger. the game nowadays were succesfull launched on steam without any issues.
how it looks like in Dlsite version:
I knew I was missing someone! Sorry about that. >-< In fairness though, your lore explanations on purification magic is what came to mind when I was writing that post."Everything"? Confirmation on Haanja content doko? Missing only the MOST important part.
Also I'm ever so slightly hurt about not getting a mention here considering I gave a (I think) pretty reasonable in game evidence why conventional weaponry would be no good. :<
Well, almost everything.
Unfortunately, no Haanja content has been mentioned in the recent update which is a shame since I thought there would be a lot more interactivity and scenes with her after the Zombie Lilia thing was added in the beta. Then again, Nennai has a history of being open to requests. I recall back when the DLCs of the first game were still in development and I was still lurking there that someone from the F95 thread asked Nennai to make the second game more mod-friendly and they accepted. Who knows? Maybe if we start asking en masse, they'll consider adding more content for Haanja or even as playable character in the future.I would be happy if someone makes a hardcore mod similar to Mission Mermaiden - The Downfall of Hasumi.
For those who don't know, this mod for Mission Mermaiden modifies some mechanics and adds more depth to the effects system.
For those who don't know, this mod for Mission Mermaiden modifies some mechanics and adds more depth to the effects system.
eryson
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Do we have any confirmation that the developer is aware of the general disatisfaction towards the game ending?
and even if they have plans to work on it eventually? i've not found anything about it in the latest article, or i' just read wrong :V
eryson
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i've heard that's a mod to make the game better gameplay'wise
i think i've donwloaded it but never played the game in depth
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"Queen of the Corrupted" would be fuckin niiiiice.
Maybe have her get some specific combination of afflictions like womb crest, aroused, enlarged breasts/lactation and parasites and let her go around spawning minions/impregnating the other girls with her cursed futa dick/tentacle
Seracjuze
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That white haired girl is never involved in any H or even H adjacent scenes thou so her size and all is irrelevant.
Kirisame Kaizer
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Fear of Haanja denying the game release on Steam shouldn't exist to be honest. She is like a midget, adorable bean that needs to be protected at all cost.
People can have all types of body figure, her's is small (or maybe her sprites are often sitting and her age is unknown at most)
People can have all types of body figure, her's is small (or maybe her sprites are often sitting and her age is unknown at most)
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eryson
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Not to the developer, and potentially not to Steam, however. the fact of having a underage-looking character in a H-game is what they talks about.
also, in the case of Sinisistar, what's actually irrelevant is if Hanya is subject of H or not, since *if* they launch the game on steam, will be a Lite version with every H locked via a patch.
So...
No, she is technicaly involved in some H events:
- Zombification, not really an H scene, but this is the only scene where we can see her portrait picture almost naked.
- Breast Treatment (without the leech), though is debetable if this would qualify but you never know.
- Parasite Treatment if you fail.
- Abomination Broodling Harbinger if you fail anf Leila end up giving birth. Though she is barely visible on the left.
- Otherworlder if you fail where both Lelia and Haanja end up getting pregnant and giving birth.
And well, we don't know yet what the dev is planning to add, so maybe they have some plan for more H scenes involving Haanja in future updates.
She pretty much has a petite body and I agree she shouldn't be a cause for denying the game. Especially since she, in comparison to Lelia, is barely involved in H events. But... we know how it is with this type of things when it comes to Steam. This may pass without issue as much as it might not.
There one thing that could be interesting with Steam, it's the workshop integration that would provide an easy way to host mods. And for that, if the game can be released without any major content alteration/censoring to comply with Steam, it could be worth the trouble.
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