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Funny crackhead theory, if only the game wasn't stating the opposite:
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yeah, pretty sure the sisters already know that the chance of being defeated and impregnated with whatever creature from darkness there are really big, so they developed this blessing to at least, try to avoid sisters spawing demon spawns in case of defeat.
Hanya when see you in such condition says "oh, your body! well let's treat it" in a way that let me wonder if it's common to see sisters in the same condition, as if "well, whatever" aahahhah

Something i've noticed in this game is that the Abomination Broodling is actually a curse that was inflicted upon the land, so anyone that have a child there (voluntary or not) will end bearing a broodling instead of their own child, it can explain why the pregnant woman npc, albeit not visibly violated to any monster, says "I should not have tried to have a child with him".
Also, the process of bearing the abomination seems to be absurdly quick, starting right after the fertilization.

I have a theory that people in the village can recognise a broodling victim just by seeing a person that became pregnant out of nowere, but this theory can also be cancelled if the girl NPC thatis found in the left part of the village is indeed pregnant as Lilia keeps saying.

Game is so good that open space to theorycraft.
 

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Yea that's what I meant by "Some Statuses are very scripted". They are tied to specific locations and will break your game if you somehow trigger it elsewhere. What this also means is that we could create custom Abnormal Statuses with custom portraits, sprites and scripts. (Another Idea for a content mod)
Oh yeah the attack level is currently broken for some reason. On my first test it worked but then it suddenly didn't anymore. I gotta investigate it xD
what if you instead make the cap higher than 5 to 100, and then we level up in-game in the statues?
or another idea increase the atk multiplier for each level since i assume it's fixed like idk maybe
+3 per level or something
so make that a +100
 

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something i dont undestand completely is the last scene when you defeat the otherworlder, did he became the slug? or is someother entity? and i like to think that this game will get like a dlc or something cuz i want to know if killing the slug or let it fuck lila may unlock somethin hahahahaha
 

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Yap, same for Lilia. If you go to the top without the powder (or you just choose not to use it) to be able to perceive him, his mere presence in close proximity makes you mutate out of controll to a mass of purple flesh. A mass we have seen blocking our path at multiple parts of the game might I add.

For starters I initially found it odd why we can find the powder recipe and ingredients in the cathedral. If it's the one way to fight and beat the otherworlder, why did the cultists not destroy it. However that is also the only way for the father to get the proper impregnation on Lilia and Haanja. Without the powder and the purging ritual they can't amass enough magic to host him and also endure his presence. So the father while unable to articulate why to the cultists, but was able to instill the simple instinct in them to leave that stuff alone. Hoping that a worthy vessel will find the stuff. Which Lilia did.
If I recall right, the powder were made to allow the creatures to become "tangible", allowing the priests to do whatever they planned to do, before you manage to get ingredients the lorebook say you that albeit the creatures are still intangible, you can perceive them by the lights that starts to flicker in presence of them. :3
 
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It's a theory I said earlier. I'm pretty sure that to have a successful birth of the otherworlder, a mother needs to be particularly powerful. All the death traps could simply carry the logic of: if Lilia can't even get past this shit, she is clearly not worthy. In fact it very much seems like they only become worthy when their magic is at their peek, the purification ritual fully charged. If you lose the otherworlder fight early, you still only become a nanny to an abomination broodling. It seems like it takes imense magic to be able to properly host the otherworlder.

Also, it can also be simple information asymmetry. The minions of the Father don't know exactly what is needed to get him birthed into this world. That's why they took away pregnant woman to experiment on them. They are just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. Plus half of them went crazy anyway experimenting with other stuff, like expanding their minds that got them mind blown and turned into half corporeal brain slugs.

The minions of the Father are not a solid unit, they are not well coordinated and managed, they are a bunch of crazy fanatics and corrupted monsters fumbling over themselves each having their own stupid inaccurate interpretation of how to serve their master.

Even the demihumans for example are servants of the Father btw. Look at the masks the high ranking ones wear with the white face and central eye like design. Looks like the central slit on the face of the Father. However the deihumans probably don't even understand it, the worship the demihuman god cause they can see that clearly, and the father, being the master of the demihuman god, they can just kinda feel it in their soul, whispering in the back of their head. They get the urge to rape and impregnate but don't understand why. They make the woman they impregnated wear a mask and they paint the eye on the pregnant belly too. They are trying to please their unseen master, they just have absolutely no idea what the fuck they are doing and are clearly failing at their jobs.

The father probably can't properly communicate to his servants, his language way beyond mortal understanding. At best he can convey ideas or feelings to his servants, all the while his mere presence corrupts and drives them crazy.
Yep, I agree with this. The Abominations Broodlings with intelligence may worship the Father in their way, but they stick to their thing with the only result being higher numbers; they have little ability to think of anything else. The Cultists are convinced they know the way and expect to find better vessels, but they have effectively hit a dead end in their research. Their efforts are depriving their master of potential vessels, and IF they know about the Scivias Powder, they certainly haven't tried using it to force Leila into becoming a true vessel. Both Otherworlders take a different approach, but they both want an ideal vessel to be properly born into the World.

Leila gains the status "Mother of the Otherworlder" when she loses the struggle during the rape scene in the final fight She is not mother of stillborns, demi-humans, or livestock... she becomes the vessel of the Otherworlder, birthing its children and acting as its means to manifest in the world properly.
 
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yeah, pretty sure the sisters already know that the chance of being defeated and impregnated with whatever creature from darkness there are really big, so they developed this blessing to at least, try to avoid sisters spawing demon spawns in case of defeat.
Hanya when see you in such condition says "oh, your body! well let's treat it" in a way that let me wonder if it's common to see sisters in the same condition, as if "well, whatever" aahahhah

Something i've noticed in this game is that the Abomination Broodling is actually a curse that was inflicted upon the land, so anyone that have a child there (voluntary or not) will end bearing a broodling instead of their own child, it can explain why the pregnant woman npc, albeit not visibly violated to any monster, says "I should not have tried to have a child with him".
Also, the process of bearing the abomination seems to be absurdly quick, starting right after the fertilization.

I have a theory that people in the village can recognise a broodling victim just by seeing a person that became pregnant out of nowere, but this theory can also be cancelled if the girl NPC thatis found in the left part of the village is indeed pregnant as Lilia keeps saying.

Game is so good that open space to theorycraft.
Lilia developing her baby instantly could be just as simple as the game not having a time system in it so there is no other way to deal with it. (Also if it took 9 months in game, that would be kinda silly)
It could be chalked up to another concept in game that goes in line with my other theories. Magic is the key.Haanja mentioned that monsters are more attracted to them as opposed to civilians cause they produce more magic. So the baby of Lilia might develop as fast as it does cause it has far more magic to suck up from her than from a normal mother.Under the same sentiment, it is implied indeed that there is some sort of curse...also...there is a monster in the well...the water might simply be contaminated. However it wasn't every baby being abomination initially, but just happening rarely, however it's been getting worse over time.


something i dont undestand completely is the last scene when you defeat the otherworlder, did he became the slug? or is someother entity? and i like to think that this game will get like a dlc or something cuz i want to know if killing the slug or let it fuck lila may unlock somethin hahahahaha
The short of it, we don't know it yet
the long of it, well, I have a running theory if interested over here: https://f95zone.to/threads/sinisistar-2-v1-0-3-nennai-5.112492/post-16779885
 
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something i dont undestand completely is the last scene when you defeat the otherworlder, did he became the slug? or is someother entity? and i like to think that this game will get like a dlc or something cuz i want to know if killing the slug or let it fuck lila may unlock somethin hahahahaha
Looks a lot of placeholder stuff, but the slugs are some sort of opening door to access of the outworlder and things in it's dimension, also Rabiane in the first game can only reach the final boss if she let one of these slugs to bang her.
 

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Lilia developing her baby instantly could be just as simple as the game not having a time system in it so there is no other way to deal with it. (Also if it took 9 months in game, that would be kinda silly)
It could be chalked up to another concept in game that goes in line with my other theories. Magic is the key.Haanja mentioned that monsters are more attracted to them as opposed to civilians cause they produce more magic. So the baby of Lilia might develop as fast as it does cause it has far more magic to suck up from her than from a normal mother.Under the same sentiment, it is implied indeed that there is some sort of curse...also...there is a monster in the well...the water might simply be contaminated. However it wasn't every baby being abomination initially, but just happening rarely, however it's been getting worse over time.



The short of it, we don't know it yet
the long of it, well, I have a running theory if interested over here: https://f95zone.to/threads/sinisistar-2-v1-0-3-nennai-5.112492/post-16779885
Thanks well in that case i'll keep an eye on this game, btw do you know anyother nsfw games 2d, with the struggle bar mechanic(idk if this has a name) :D because i came here for the nsfw but i stayed for the lore and difficulty of this
 

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Lilia developing her baby instantly could be just as simple as the game not having a time system in it so there is no other way to deal with it. (Also if it took 9 months in game, that would be kinda silly)
It could be chalked up to another concept in game that goes in line with my other theories. Magic is the key.Haanja mentioned that monsters are more attracted to them as opposed to civilians cause they produce more magic. So the baby of Lilia might develop as fast as it does cause it has far more magic to suck up from her than from a normal mother.Under the same sentiment, it is implied indeed that there is some sort of curse...also...there is a monster in the well...the water might simply be contaminated. However it wasn't every baby being abomination initially, but just happening rarely, however it's been getting worse over time.
probably too, I can guess that the animation that she gets out of the house sayins just "..." after being violated by the drunkard or ruffians are the sameif you not have your blessing broken,, it just happens that you become pregnant very quick because yes, it's how the game wants things done :3
I just not confirmed it yet because I've never left Lilia being pregnant until finishing the game first time, worring about it having influence in the ending somehow (and I hope that will be the case in the future), so when i noticed that people in the town can sex you, I already lost the blessing :V
 

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Thanks well in that case i'll keep an eye on this game, btw do you know anyother nsfw games 2d, with the struggle bar mechanic(idk if this has a name) :D because i came here for the nsfw but i stayed for the lore and difficulty of this
kinda almost every action H game have that hahahah it's a pretty traditional feature :3
depends more of what kind of game you want to play :V
 

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Thanks well in that case i'll keep an eye on this game, btw do you know anyother nsfw games 2d, with the struggle bar mechanic(idk if this has a name) :D because i came here for the nsfw but i stayed for the lore and difficulty of this
The struggle bar mechanic is rather common for these ryona games, I think they are called at least. A few of the other ones I like are the Unholy series (Unholy Sanctuary, Jail, Disaster, etc), the Koonsoft games (Witch Girl, Angel Girl, Kung-fu Girl etc)
A common one people will tell you about is Night of Revenge
there is also Alien Queen Eve
Rose and the Magical Beast I like the animations of even if the gameplay is a bit basic
You can look here for more: https://f95zone.to/threads/ryona-humiliation-game-collection.138900/
honestly, non of these is quiet like sinisistar, to me there is something special about this game. The dark brooding atmosphere makes it feel like a souls game turned hentai. (in fact Bloodborn deals with a lot of the same themes as the 2nd sini does, with eldritch gods hoping to procreate through humans)
But for a good hentai experience, there is a lot of nice stuff on that list.
 
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Lilia developing her baby instantly could be just as simple as the game not having a time system in it so there is no other way to deal with it. (Also if it took 9 months in game, that would be kinda silly)
It could be chalked up to another concept in game that goes in line with my other theories. Magic is the key.Haanja mentioned that monsters are more attracted to them as opposed to civilians cause they produce more magic. So the baby of Lilia might develop as fast as it does cause it has far more magic to suck up from her than from a normal mother.Under the same sentiment, it is implied indeed that there is some sort of curse...also...there is a monster in the well...the water might simply be contaminated. However it wasn't every baby being abomination initially, but just happening rarely, however it's been getting worse over time.



The short of it, we don't know it yet
the long of it, well, I have a running theory if interested over here: https://f95zone.to/threads/sinisistar-2-v1-0-3-nennai-5.112492/post-16779885
I want to add a theory about the first thing, maybe the monster in the well but something else could be sin acts like having intercourse without being married at the church or for example the woman we help to eliminate the abomination might be cuz incest of some kind its just a theory cuz i dont think its metioned if the man and her had anyother connection besides wife and husband
 

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The struggle bar mechanic is rather common for these ryona games, I think they are called at least. A few of the other ones I like are the Unholy series (Unholy Sanctuary, Jail, Disaster, etc), the Koonsoft games (Witch Girl, Angel Girl, Kung-fu Girl etc)
A common one people will tell you about is Night of Revenge
there is also Alien Queen Eve
Rose and the Magical Beast I like the animations of even if the gameplay is a bit basic
You can look here for more: https://f95zone.to/threads/ryona-humiliation-game-collection.138900/
honestly, non of these is quiet like sinisistar, to me there is something special about this game. The dark brooding atmosphere makes it feel like a souls game turned hentai. (in fact Bloodborn deals with a lot of the same themes as the 2nd sini does, with eldritch gods hoping to procreate through humans)
But for a good hentai experience, there is a lot of nice stuff on that list.
thanks and yeah this game feels more like a its own instead of just simply porn and its easy to see the creator puts a lot into this Sinistar series
 

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probably too, I can guess that the animation that she gets out of the house sayins just "..." after being violated by the drunkard or ruffians are the sameif you not have your blessing broken,, it just happens that you become pregnant very quick because yes, it's how the game wants things done :3
I just not confirmed it yet because I've never left Lilia being pregnant until finishing the game first time, worring about it having influence in the ending somehow (and I hope that will be the case in the future), so when i noticed that people in the town can sex you, I already lost the blessing :V
Yes, she just goes ... even if you have the blessing and you don't get pregnant. I think the ... is more just a way to express her being speechless from the betrayal of the fellow humans. The lore entry in the gallery notes that she is not allowed to hurt her fellow humans and that purification technique won't work to hold them off, so against a normal human, she is just a weak defenseless woman, ready to be raped, and those people would take advantage of that, satisfying their lust on the last person that keeps them away from their eldritch doom. Truly despicable.
 
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Another example of the means vs ends problem with the Otherworlder and its followers: the bridges. Suppose that the daughter of the carpenter is dead, or he kicked the bucket by the time of Leila's arrival at Arcezon. She may have all the skill and power to surpass Rabiane and any heroine in Sinisistar 3 (if it ever happens) combined, but if there are no bridges, then she is not entering the Cathedral by the front door or using the Underground Cave. Since the cultists never bothered fixing them, and the priest at the Northeast Village has his own thing going on, the Otherworlder is never going to get his ideal woman.

Another win for the Observer - wait its minion killed all women in Kessaria, and who knows how long it took for Rabiane to arrive... guess they both have a hard time finding good followers.
 

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I want to add a theory about the first thing, maybe the monster in the well but something else could be sin acts like having intercourse without being married at the church or for example the woman we help to eliminate the abomination might be cuz incest of some kind its just a theory cuz i dont think its metioned if the man and her had anyother connection besides wife and husband
Yeah, the guy standing infront of the house is supposed to be the pregnant womans brother I hear. I missed when it was mentioned thou. However I did also run with this theory in my earlier posts. The sinfulness of the conception might have an effect and for the pregnant woman there is really 2 man in the game that is a possible father. Either she committed incest with her brother. Or she fucked with the gravekeeper, seeing as when we find her, she is next to a staff set up by the gravekeeper. It's possible we find her there cause she went out to look for the guy but he moved on to the east side of town and only left his staff there in the west where the girl went looking.
 
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Yeah, the guy standing infront of the house is supposed to be the pregnant womans brother I hear. I missed when it was mentioned thou. However I did also run with this theory in my earlier posts. The sinfulness of the conception might have an effect and for the pregnant woman there is really 2 man in the game that is a possible father. Either she committed incest with her brother. Or she fucked with the gravekeeper, seeing as when we find her, she is next to a staff set up by the gravekeeper. It's possible we find her there cause she went out to look for the guy but he moved on to the east side of town and only left his staff there in the west where the girl went looking.
I still think is simply that all human births have been cursed by this point in time if they happen in Arcezon. The Otherworlder is no evil figure or anything like that, it cares not for how sinful you have been.
 

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Another example of the means vs ends problem with the Otherworlder and its followers: the bridges. Suppose that the daughter of the carpenter is dead, or he kicked the bucket by the time of Leila's arrival at Arcezon. She may have all the skill and power to surpass Rabiane and any heroine in Sinisistar 3 (if it ever happens) combined, but if there are no bridges, then she is not entering the Cathedral by the front door or using the Underground Cave. Since the cultists never bothered fixing them, and the priest at the Northeast Village has his own thing going on, the Otherworlder is never going to get his ideal woman.

Another win for the Observer - wait its minion killed all women in Kessaria, and who knows how long it took for Rabiane to arrive... guess they both have a hard time finding good followers.
XD
The minions of the father are idiots. To be fair, the minions of the Observer are also idiots really. Those guys also kill Rabiane in more than a few gameovers. XD
 
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I still think is simply that all human births have been cursed by this point in time if they happen in Arcezon. The Otherworlder is no evil figure or anything like that, it cares not for how sinful you have been.
Well yeah. I was running with that theory before as I said, I have dropped that one since. It's more likely that it's simply his corrupting influence is growing over time and that it might be more magic related. I do agree with the argument that was made earlier that it's unreasonable to say that ALL births were cursed for the whole time, since we know abominations have been popping up for years now. So much is noted in the Leech Abominations entry. If ALL births were abominations for years, people would have stopped trying. To be fair, they have kinda stopped, but that was mainly so that the church won't take them away. I feel thou that it all ties back to magic. The more magic the fetus can suck up from the mother, the more corrupted it can become. For one, the girls captured by the demihumans in their prison, non of them seem pregnant, even if you get Lilia pregnant there, they just chillin. So they might be so low on magic that they can't even host a demihuman properly, while Lilia is made to pump out monster babies with her magical potential. (hence why she needs the blessing of infertility)
The pregnant village girl might just have unusually high potential for a random villager (still less than a trained sister)
 
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