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hi guys, this is bilbili 元素雨 mod,code:246580
you need Unzip to get a file named Desktop,Continue to unzip to get two files ,and
Then extract the two files that you get
Finally move the two files into the mod/player, I successfully tested it in version 1.0.5.

by the way, I'm a bilbili depth user, but I only learned about this mod on F95 , Thanks to bilbili blogger 元素雨 for his selfless sharing
can you give me a new link that's available. This llink has been restricted. Thank you so much
 
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This totally. I mean the story is paper thin (dark souls 1 has more story than this game), and is sort of just an excuse to have you go out there and murder things/get murdered (we aren't meant to actually be able to understand why the monsters/horrors/cultists are doing what they are doing or why they are here, they just are). This isn't a knock against the game, quite the opposite actually as i think it was done that way on purpose, the atmosphere, the horror vibe and the challenge of it being the main hook. Everything outside of that is just fanfiction level theory crafting and being just way too much into your own headcanon (i guess some people just love writing walls upon walls of text that has actually nothing to do with ingame content).
You listed a series of established facts up to the last sentence. Of course, the stories discussed in this thread are fan theories until they are confirmed by the developer. However, most of them were written based on careful research to fill the gaps in the game’s content. So why do you think they are unrelated to the game itself? I am not one of the writers. But those fan theories helped me engage with the game story more deeply. If you played it as a simple shoot-and-slash game without considering the narrative, then good for you. However, please think carefully before dismissing the work of others as irrelevant or unnecessary.
 

M3gan

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I played the first SiNisitar like everyone else but this second one I decided to play in one sit and without being penetrated (raped), this game is incredibly captivating when you play worried about her.
Now I'm going to delve deeper into these theories of yours because the world that Uu created for Sinisistar is incredible.
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I played the first SiNisitar like everyone else but this second one I decided to play in one sit and without being penetrated (raped), this game is incredibly captivating when you play worried about her.
Now I'm going to delve deeper into these theories of yours because the world that Uu created for Sinisistar is incredible.
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I recommend doing a virgin run in all games first. Not only do you engage with more of the game, you also may find details the dev put in that you may have missed if you just go in horny mode full blast.
Remember: they decided to make it a game, not just animation`s

It does make you more angry if you keep failing in specific parts though, as normal games generally do lol
 
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You listed a series of established facts up to the last sentence. Of course, the stories discussed in this thread are fan theories until they are confirmed by the developer. However, most of them were written based on careful research to fill the gaps in the game’s content. So why do you think they are unrelated to the game itself? I am not one of the writers. But those fan theories helped me engage with the game story more deeply. If you played it as a simple shoot-and-slash game without considering the narrative, then good for you. However, please think carefully before dismissing the work of others as irrelevant or unnecessary.
As one of those writers, I can confirm some of us are at least trying to interpret events ingame to the best of our ability and not go the fan fiction route. Aye, sometimes we can be loose with said interpretations but that's usually to fill in the gaps.

Frankly, there's nothing wrong with games that are light on lore. I hope I can speak for others but for me personally I'm far more engaged with something that uses our imaginations rather than have things spelt out for us. And while I have nothing against folks who want to switch off their brains while playing these games, I'm the opposite for I'm passionate about the setting and want to treat it with the respect it deserves, which is not something I usually say for adult games in general.

Here's the thing, too. Nennai is a brilliant visual storyteller. There are many little things sewn into both Sinisistar games that are probably overlooked by the average player, so I appreciate conversing with creative fans of the setting so we exchange ideas on what we interpret ingame. It's obvious Raka is not one of those fans, though, which really doesn't bother me at all.

I still think his opinion is atrocious but hey, if he enjoyed the game regardless, good for him! Especially if he paid for it.
 

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If you played it as a simple shoot-and-slash game without considering the narrative, then good for you. However, please think carefully before dismissing the work of others as irrelevant or unnecessary.
You are saying this to someone who actually learned japanese just to be able to play through Dragon Quest 7 back when it was released so yeah (if you know what that entails you know, if not... well good for you), try harder i guess.

I still think his opinion is atrocious but hey, if he enjoyed the game regardless, good for him! Especially if he paid for it.
Look you can make up as much stuff as you want, but fanfiction is still fanfiction. It is not in the freaking game in any shape or form. Visual storytelling? This isn't Salt and Sanctuary which like Dark souls had plenty of lore scattered about both in the names of the locations, item descriptions and plenty of other things. What all of those had in common is that you could piece all of it together by yourself. I never ever felt the need to contact the game devs to ask just what the hell is going on in any of those games because there never was any need for it.

Seriously you guys really need to stop trying to look for meaning in things that weren't meant to be explained. As i said before just like in Lovecraft's stories the horror is that much more effective the less you understand how it works, and that was absolutely done on purpose. Sure go ahead and write your headcanon stuff all you want, i am not dissing you for your efforts instead i find the dedication admirable, but you should not call the "is the slug the metaphysical manifestation of eldritch gods or the MC herself from the future" some kind of official lore.

Also seeing how you pulled the "if he paid for it" argument out of your ass as some kind of point against me i can already see both the depth of your personality and your willingness to have an actual conversation so you will most likely not read anything i wrote here anyway and will keep interpreting everything as me being hostile to your efforts of spreading your "wisdom" around. Guys like you are the reason people dislike and find the Dark Souls fandom (as the most obvious example) toxic as hell.

Heck i knew that my previous post will draw both you and that other guy out of the woodworks to shit on me for daring to offend your dignity, because that's just how people like you are. Seeing how we won't be able to change each other's opinion anyway (besides i already said all i had to), to spare the mods some effort (and to prevent this devolving into a flame war) i'm ending both this and any further conversation between us right here and right now (you guys are going on the ignore list).
 

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You are saying this to someone who actually learned japanese just to be able to play through Dragon Quest 7 back when it was released so yeah (if you know what that entails you know, if not... well good for you), try harder i guess.



Look you can make up as much stuff as you want, but fanfiction is still fanfiction. It is not in the freaking game in any shape or form. Visual storytelling? This isn't Salt and Sanctuary which like Dark souls had plenty of lore scattered about both in the names of the locations, item descriptions and plenty of other things. What all of those had in common is that you could piece all of it together by yourself. I never ever felt the need to contact the game devs to ask just what the hell is going on in any of those games because there never was any need for it.

Seriously you guys really need to stop trying to look for meaning in things that weren't meant to be explained. As i said before just like in Lovecraft's stories the horror is that much more effective the less you understand how it works, and that was absolutely done on purpose. Sure go ahead and write your headcanon stuff all you want, i am not dissing you for your efforts instead i find the dedication admirable, but you should not call the "is the slug the metaphysical manifestation of eldritch gods or the MC herself from the future" some kind of official lore.

Also seeing how you pulled the "if he paid for it" argument out of your ass as some kind of point against me i can already see both the depth of your personality and your willingness to have an actual conversation so you will most likely not read anything i wrote here anyway and will keep interpreting everything as me being hostile to your efforts of spreading your "wisdom" around. Guys like you are the reason people dislike and find the Dark Souls fandom (as the most obvious example) toxic as hell.

Heck i knew that my previous post will draw both you and that other guy out of the woodworks to shit on me for daring to offend your dignity, because that's just how people like you are. Seeing how we won't be able to change each other's opinion anyway (besides i already said all i had to), to spare the mods some effort (and to prevent this devolving into a flame war) i'm ending both this and any further conversation between us right here and right now (you guys are going on the ignore list).
Geez... if you don't like fan theories, just don't read them.

Everybody enjoys the game differently. Some hardcore players enjoy the challange of beating the game unscratched, some enjoy having bad statuses stacked as many as possible. Some enjoy just the game, some enjoy reading all the blog posts from the developer talking about how the game was designed. Enjoy the game however you want, just don't bother others who enjoy it differently than you. It's the same principle why we disapprove of kink shaming here.

If you actually read the developer's blog and Twitter posts, you'll see he put a lot of efforts into setting the game's atmosphere with small props in the scenery. He explains to the fans why he does something, so people who read those pay attention to every detail in the game and make their own speculations. If this isn't the kind of thing you enjoy, just look away. There's no need to insult people who do by calling them "make up stuff" or dissing the game for not having real visual storytelling because it's not comparable to some big-budget commercial games.

Disclaimers are not magical hypnosis spells. People will still be offended if you write something stupid, no matter how many disclaimers you put upfront. Real-life control freak techniques don't work online.
 

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Geez... if you don't like fan theories, just don't read them.

Everybody enjoys the game differently. Some hardcore players enjoy the challange of beating the game unscratched, some enjoy having bad statuses stacked as many as possible. Some enjoy just the game, some enjoy reading all the blog posts from the developer talking about how the game was designed. Enjoy the game however you want, just don't bother others who enjoy it differently than you. It's the same principle why we disapprove of kink shaming here.

If you actually read the developer's blog and Twitter posts, you'll see he put a lot of efforts into setting the game's atmosphere with small props in the scenery. He explains to the fans why he does something, so people who read those pay attention to every detail in the game and make their own speculations. If this isn't the kind of thing you enjoy, just look away. There's no need to insult people who do by calling them "make up stuff" or dissing the game for not having real visual storytelling because it's not comparable to some big-budget commercial games.

Disclaimers are not magical hypnosis spells. People will still be offended if you write something stupid, no matter how many disclaimers you put upfront. Real-life control freak techniques don't work online.
On one end, he is right that some theories are bit...too much. On the other hand, the dev did try to emulate dark souls with environmental storytelling, and honestly, while he did it really well, the fact the game can be cleared in like 5 hours means you cant really cram all that much lore into it. And honestly i enjoy it like that.


One example, throughout the game i noticed how some ruins looked more ancient than others and the main village looked like it was build on an ancient city ruins. Lo and behold, at the end of the game you find the secret boss, an otherworlder that is stuck between the two realms, unable to influence either. We even pass through him when going to the goblins. And right there i had this little question answered.

Its hard not to see how much love was poured into this game.
 

Zanurah

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You are saying this to someone who actually learned japanese just to be able to play through Dragon Quest 7 back when it was released so yeah (if you know what that entails you know, if not... well good for you), try harder i guess.



Look you can make up as much stuff as you want, but fanfiction is still fanfiction. It is not in the freaking game in any shape or form. Visual storytelling? This isn't Salt and Sanctuary which like Dark souls had plenty of lore scattered about both in the names of the locations, item descriptions and plenty of other things. What all of those had in common is that you could piece all of it together by yourself. I never ever felt the need to contact the game devs to ask just what the hell is going on in any of those games because there never was any need for it.

Seriously you guys really need to stop trying to look for meaning in things that weren't meant to be explained. As i said before just like in Lovecraft's stories the horror is that much more effective the less you understand how it works, and that was absolutely done on purpose. Sure go ahead and write your headcanon stuff all you want, i am not dissing you for your efforts instead i find the dedication admirable, but you should not call the "is the slug the metaphysical manifestation of eldritch gods or the MC herself from the future" some kind of official lore.

Also seeing how you pulled the "if he paid for it" argument out of your ass as some kind of point against me i can already see both the depth of your personality and your willingness to have an actual conversation so you will most likely not read anything i wrote here anyway and will keep interpreting everything as me being hostile to your efforts of spreading your "wisdom" around. Guys like you are the reason people dislike and find the Dark Souls fandom (as the most obvious example) toxic as hell.

Heck i knew that my previous post will draw both you and that other guy out of the woodworks to shit on me for daring to offend your dignity, because that's just how people like you are. Seeing how we won't be able to change each other's opinion anyway (besides i already said all i had to), to spare the mods some effort (and to prevent this devolving into a flame war) i'm ending both this and any further conversation between us right here and right now (you guys are going on the ignore list).
Calm down, mate. I wasn't taking a jab at you, but since you're taking all of this personally...

I have nothing but respect for anyone who buy these games to support the dev. No more, no less. It wasn't meant to be condescending and I'm legit glad when folks enjoy the game. We may not see eye to eye on what's important and that's ok. We're all fans at the end of the day and it'd be creepy af if we all thought the same. Try and find two users here who agree on everything and I'd be surprised if you were successful. We all have different interests that draw us to these games.

Again, it's fine we don't agree on stuff. Some of us just like digging deeper because it's fun. We like finding meaning in the little things even if you don't feel it's necessary. Say you're right, though. Say the dev didn't put as much thought into his universe and we're overthinking things. It's still a fascinating one regardless that I have plenty of time to speculate for.


On one end, he is right that some theories are bit...too much. On the other hand, the dev did try to emulate dark souls with environmental storytelling, and honestly, while he did it really well, the fact the game can be cleared in like 5 hours means you cant really cram all that much lore into it. And honestly i enjoy it like that.
Yeah... there's no denying there's a few theories out there I've politely ignored.

Anyway, it's amazing just how much story the dev has sewn into his games with just the environment alone. I know I've spoken about it in the past but I feel it has the same energy as say Playdead's games, LIMBO and Inside. Great titles, btw! Can't wait to see what they're cooking for their third creation... even if it's only available on EPIC. Ugh. Now that's horror.

One example, throughout the game i noticed how some ruins looked more ancient than others and the main village looked like it was build on an ancient city ruins. Lo and behold, at the end of the game you find the secret boss, an otherworlder that is stuck between the two realms, unable to influence either. We even pass through him when going to the goblins. And right there i had this little question answered.

Its hard not to see how much love was poured into this game.
Exactly! Definitely a labor of love I hope was worth their time.


Geez... if you don't like fan theories, just don't read them.

Everybody enjoys the game differently. Some hardcore players enjoy the challange of beating the game unscratched, some enjoy having bad statuses stacked as many as possible. Some enjoy just the game, some enjoy reading all the blog posts from the developer talking about how the game was designed. Enjoy the game however you want, just don't bother others who enjoy it differently than you. It's the same principle why we disapprove of kink shaming here.

If you actually read the developer's blog and Twitter posts, you'll see he put a lot of efforts into setting the game's atmosphere with small props in the scenery. He explains to the fans why he does something, so people who read those pay attention to every detail in the game and make their own speculations. If this isn't the kind of thing you enjoy, just look away. There's no need to insult people who do by calling them "make up stuff" or dissing the game for not having real visual storytelling because it's not comparable to some big-budget commercial games.

Disclaimers are not magical hypnosis spells. People will still be offended if you write something stupid, no matter how many disclaimers you put upfront. Real-life control freak techniques don't work online.
Next time I write something I should just look at what others wrote before me and give a thumbs up for saving time. XD

Seriously, though, well said. I know I've failed my father's advice more often than I like to admit but we'd all get along better if we don't say anything if we have nothing nice to say. But then I also believe arguments have to happen from time to time for people to grow... if that makes any sense? Sometimes we just gotta talk things out to find common ground.
 
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Some of them don't seem so bad (if this ain't a prequel but a different part of the globe and things aren't as bad as the first game or something) off. The tavernkeeper's got a pretty good gig going on before and after the town gets attacked, and the trader's probably making bank off of relics from providing potions. I just think a male holy warrior gets double-plus fucked in this setting.

Maybe with the magic, sure, but consider just how actually fucked you are in story in this game. Like, let's say a guy shows up to do Lilia's job instead: same abilities, same stuff, only difference is they're a dude with all that entails. You can do the first bits of the game fine, but things start to get wonk as you head towards midgame: you legit can't get KO'd once by the demihumans or they'll murderize you, and the cult doesn't have much need for you, since you ain't equipped like Lilia to get knocked up with the Otherworlder, or whatever other kid game over's your ass as Lilia if you pop it out.

And that's a big ass problem, because you can't get through the northeastern village if they don't really want you. You fight your way through the villagers to the gate, but you can't get that gate open without the key and you can only get that after being KO'd one time, which leads to the parasite ending up in Lilia - they're basically trying to break your ass to knock you up with a kid, or something along those lines. They can't (or can they ominous music intensifies) knock up male-Lilia, so if they get you down they'd probably go "hey this guy's the only real threat we have and they've got no value to our plans" and blast his ass into the next dimension. It ain't like they need to brainwash you - they've already got plenty of male cultists in the Cathedral. You're just a loose end they can tie up.

And even if you can get infected and they want to keep you around...my man, they're sticking a parasite worm up your ass, and you're liable to get gangbanged by every man in the village to put more in you like in the Lilia knock down events. That's assuming you make it even that far in the game because if you get KO'd by the demihumans they'll just take your head off. Cathedral? They're not gonna brainwash you or try to give you a womb crest, they'll just dust you the moment they get a chance. With Lilia if you fuck up at least you have the fact that most people want to use your big curvy body for something, which can let her get back on her feet - escaping from the demihumans, or just using how the cult underestimated her at the northeast village to get the two sides of the key. That's not great, lotta rape involved, but better than a guy who'd just get RIP'd the moment they fuck up even once. The Otherworlder's whole shtick seems to be "have mutant babies" so as a dude you either die or get M-preg'd.

This is not the setting to want to be a male protag in, good grief. If I was a dude in this setting I'd rather be the damned trader, because half the time Lilia seems to come up to him naked and he can still pull trade goods out of his ass to replenish her supplies and make absolute bank in the process everytime she comes back to town. Like, we're not even trading him cash; dude's taking holy relics - I'd bet they're worth more than money, so whenever this blows over you fuck off somewhere else, sell the lot, and live like a king.

Like, maybe male crusaders don't actually have it that bad in general, I dunno about the broader setting and I don't think we know much about it or them, but they'd definitely not have a good time in this game's main storyline.
Maybe I have my head in the gutter too much but...

Male protag doesn't have to be an exclusive thing but as a co-star with switching perspectives if you know what I mean. Demihuman portion can be twisted a bit using the male protag as bait when defeated and captured for the female protag to come rescue. This can devolve in two ways, male protag getting disembodied in front of the female protag being raped or they force the male protag to rape the female protag before killing him.

The cult being the cult can brainwash the male protag much like how they brainwash the female protag. The male protag's job here would be to defeat the female protag and impregnate her or any other viable sisterhood targets.

I would say for the parasites it wouldn't be that much different except the male protag would be another fighting force much like how they had a priest. They'd just capture more females for their otherworlder. Having a parasite holy knight fighting for them is much better than a village boy/man with a knife lol

As for the actual fight with the otherworlder boss if you so choose to do as male protag would pretty much end up as meat flesh ending on loss and do something to the other two or not. There are many ways to implement the male protag, but question would be is it worth the effort and if they want more gore deaths.
 

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Maybe I have my head in the gutter too much but...

Male protag doesn't have to be an exclusive thing but as a co-star with switching perspectives if you know what I mean. Demihuman portion can be twisted a bit using the male protag as bait when defeated and captured for the female protag to come rescue. This can devolve in two ways, male protag getting disembodied in front of the female protag being raped or they force the male protag to rape the female protag before killing him.

The cult being the cult can brainwash the male protag much like how they brainwash the female protag. The male protag's job here would be to defeat the female protag and impregnate her or any other viable sisterhood targets.

I would say for the parasites it wouldn't be that much different except the male protag would be another fighting force much like how they had a priest. They'd just capture more females for their otherworlder. Having a parasite holy knight fighting for them is much better than a village boy/man with a knife lol

As for the actual fight with the otherworlder boss if you so choose to do as male protag would pretty much end up as meat flesh ending on loss and do something to the other two or not. There are many ways to implement the male protag, but question would be is it worth the effort and if they want more gore deaths.
Sadly, the dev probably wouldn't see it as financially viable, though I'd argue it could tap into a broader market.

I doubt the demihumans would keep any man alive unless it's to fatten them up, though. I'm thinking more along the lines of say Bone Tomahawk's cannibals here, as there's really no point in keeping them around when they'd likely only consider males from other species competition for potential mates. We certainly didn't see any sulking in Goblin Slayer's caves and Nennai is on record for saying the demihumans in Sinisistar are based off the goblins in it. That being said...

The demihumans could theoretically keep some as slaves for hard labor... before eating them eventually.

Regardless, it would have been awesome seeing a male protag co-star in this setting and, while I believe a holy knight would be fun, I'd argue a hunter would make more sense. Give him a sword and bow. Scatter pages of a survivalist's guide throughout the region, letting him learn new skills similar to Lelia finding those holy tomes. So, for his bow he could end up with fire arrows for DoT and explosive arrows for AoE, allowing him to hit the same content Lelia faces at a similar pace.
 

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Sadly, the dev probably wouldn't see it as financially viable, though I'd argue it could tap into a broader market.

I doubt the demihumans would keep any man alive unless it's to fatten them up, though. I'm thinking more along the lines of say Bone Tomahawk's cannibals here, as there's really no point in keeping them around when they'd likely only consider males from other species competition for potential mates. We certainly didn't see any sulking in Goblin Slayer's caves and Nennai is on record for saying the demihumans in Sinisistar are based off the goblins in it. That being said...

The demihumans could theoretically keep some as slaves for hard labor... before eating them eventually.

Regardless, it would have been awesome seeing a male protag co-star in this setting and, while I believe a holy knight would be fun, I'd argue a hunter would make more sense. Give him a sword and bow. Scatter pages of a survivalist's guide throughout the region, letting him learn new skills similar to Lelia finding those holy tomes. So, for his bow he could end up with fire arrows for DoT and explosive arrows for AoE, allowing him to hit the same content Lelia faces at a similar pace.
I wouldn't complain playing a crusader wielding a Giant's Bow from Dark Souls 1, 'tell you hwat.
 
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A good argument for a male protag could be for a sfw mode for the game. I mean sfw-with-lots-of-blood-but-nothing-lewd kind of game. I feel like it's one of the rare porn games that are good enough to be played like... well games. :ROFLMAO:
 
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A good argument for a male protag could be for a sfw mode for the game. I mean sfw-with-lots-of-blood-but-nothing-lewd kind of game. I feel like it's one of the rare porn games that are good enough to be played like... well games. :ROFLMAO:
Kinda like those side-mode games in the GBA+DS Castlevania games, right?
Belmont Mode, Giant Axe Mode, Alucard Mode, etc.
 

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Maybe I have my head in the gutter too much but...

Male protag doesn't have to be an exclusive thing but as a co-star with switching perspectives if you know what I mean. Demihuman portion can be twisted a bit using the male protag as bait when defeated and captured for the female protag to come rescue. This can devolve in two ways, male protag getting disembodied in front of the female protag being raped or they force the male protag to rape the female protag before killing him.

The cult being the cult can brainwash the male protag much like how they brainwash the female protag. The male protag's job here would be to defeat the female protag and impregnate her or any other viable sisterhood targets.

I would say for the parasites it wouldn't be that much different except the male protag would be another fighting force much like how they had a priest. They'd just capture more females for their otherworlder. Having a parasite holy knight fighting for them is much better than a village boy/man with a knife lol

As for the actual fight with the otherworlder boss if you so choose to do as male protag would pretty much end up as meat flesh ending on loss and do something to the other two or not. There are many ways to implement the male protag, but question would be is it worth the effort and if they want more gore deaths.
Oh, sure. I'd imagine you could definitely make it work from a gameplay sense, plus there's some ways to get it to slot in lore wise (ie, a couple of changes to the demihuman lore and you could probably have them taking some men as captives to breed a number of their captive women = a sustainable slave population for infinite breeding slaves, or something), but I was talking more about how bad a hand you're dealt with if you were just random dude who happened to end up at the monastery in Lilia's place, no story adjustments or nothing.

Sadly, the dev probably wouldn't see it as financially viable, though I'd argue it could tap into a broader market.
If you've actually got the artistic chops, you could probably mod it into the game. It looks like pretty much the entire game's catalogue of MC assets can be accessed via the mods, so not just the side image on the left, but the sprites in game. You'd have to have the patience of a saint (and let's be real: ain't no saints in this thread) to redo all the sprites, but you could probably do it without too much trouble other than sheer workload. If someone did that and it was popular enough, it might be enough to convince the dev to run with it in the future, maybe.
 
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