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Maybe some mini secret, if you use the powder to detect the invisible in this location (before the tentacle caves), then one slug will fall from above, this only works once.
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Really curious if this, and the hidden eye prayer, are simply easter eggs/nods to Sin1 or have actual deeper lore implications.
 

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Not keeping as it is, because of course that would make the gameplay just impossible. But after Lelia milk herself, you could imagine that she would remove enough to be able to stand and walk away instead of being able to completly remove that status by herself.

On side note, the fact that she can just milk herself to remove the "further enlarged breast" status should imply that she could as well do it for the "enlarged breast"... But somehow, she can't or she won't.
Hmm, Maybe there's a Practical limit to how much milk one can squeeze from themselves with only their hands.

Part of the curing process for enlarged breasts is Removing the contaminated Breast Milk, I've read some of the development Cien post talking about this, and Nennai talks about how like medieval era medicine had the concept of "bad blood" so they used leeches and bloodletting to remove this contaminated blood.

Judging by that, If there's even a few liters left in the breasts, curing them fully isn't going to be possible.
So either Leeches suck out all of the contaminated milk, or Hanya does it, That's the practical part, there's only so much you can remove with the squeezing and pushing action.

I also theorize that it has something to do with Lelia being unwilling to do something that's extremely painful.
The Sucking action of Hanya and the Leeches is probably not going to be as bad as Lelia repeatedly Squeezing her breasts, Hard and then pulling her own breasts to get the milk out.

Notice in the animation for removing even larger breasts that there's actually a first pull by her right arm that does nothing, repeatedly getting duds like that, probably soured the idea of her doing that for all of the milk, so she only gets enough to be able to move freely again (and even then she still comments on the weight).

PS: Got curious and timed out the Medical Leeches vs Hanya.
This is measuring how quickly they can get a fully upgraded level 5 140 MP Lelia down to 0 MP
Hanya: ~ 58 Seconds
"Leeches": ~ 47 Seconds
These Leeches are barely faster than Hanya! and there's 2 of these suckers!
Hanya does 4 MP damage per tick while the leeches do 5 MP damage each tick.

SO either Hanya is a milk drinking queen, or these leeches aren't really enjoying this contaminated milk so they aren't as enthusiatic.

Edit: Here's the times of the other Leeches in the swamp for comparison
Baby Leech 1: ~31
Baby Leech 2: ~23
Swamp Leech 1: ~15
Swamp Leech 2: ~12

The numbering of 1 and 2 here reveal my method, measuring the times by using the gallery and a stopwatch (the numbers correspond to the animation they were taken from)

So Yeah, Double Confirmation that these Medical Leeches aren't really suckin, this duo got mogged by a baby leech that isn't even sucking particularly enthusiastically (Baby Leech Gallery 1) .
 
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Another day, another . Nennai's Ci-en has recently been updated, but unfortunately there wasn't anything new revealed. Just a look behind the scenes on the Swamp Abomination Brood's concept art and development. However, Nennai did mention that they're currently working on the new content they announced a while back. They're keeping it under wraps for now but from the five items they disclosed before, the ones that are in development are:


  1. New costumes for Lilia (In-progress)
  2. New enemies and mid-bosses on the Highway (In-progress)
  3. The return of the Spider enemies from SiNiSistar (Unknown)
  4. Expansion of the Vampiric Swamp area (Not in development yet)
  5. New NPCs and events inside Arcezon Town (In-progress)

While nothing has been shown so far, Nennai is no doubt working hard behind the scenes on the new content. And if they do get that extra artist they're looking for in their Twitter job offering, development would speed up tremendously. Though as you can see, the Vampiric Swamp expansion most likely hasn't started yet given Nennai did not include it among the content they working on. Given that the average SiNiSistar 2 dungeon took at least 5 - 7 months to develop (Vampiric Swamp and Demi-Human Cave) with only Northeast Village (2 months), Arcezon Cathedral (3 months) and Innards Cave (1 month) being rushed, they are probably saving it for last. Since it's just an expansion and not an original level built from the ground-up, I'd estimate it to take at least 1 - 2 months before its complete.

But with that info out of the way, I'd like to speculate once more on the future content we'll be getting. To imagine what it would look like when it's finally added to the game.

Costumes
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Concept sketch of an alternate Lelia wearing stockings

When it comes to the question of what kind of outfits will we getting for Lelia, I typically take a look at Nennai's prior works, both final and unused, to get an idea for it. Unfortunately, unlike Rabiane who had multiple design revisions during the first game's development, Lelia's design was practically final since the start. The only change Nennai made to her design was to give her tights while keeping the original as an alternate costume named 'Lelia_NoTights'. However, that didn't mean they didn't experiment with other ideas during development. Among these ideas was an alteration of her sister outfit where the skirt and tights were removed in favor of stockings; one even turned her dress into a leotard.
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Despite positive feedback towards the design from both fans and "Nennai's libido", Nennai did not keep it as a costume, stating that they didn't want to further delay the game just to add more costumes. They did however confirm that they will be re-adding both the slit and mini-skirt versions post-launch as extra costumes. Assuming they don't change their mind, these two outfits will be returning for the coming update, possibly with changes to Lelia's outfit to make them further stand-out.

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While it's great that those are confirmed, I personally would find it quite boring if every official alternate costume for Lelia just changes her legwear. Going further than that, I speculate that the first true outfit swap would be the second game's equivalent to Rabiane's white outfit. Considering that most of the second game's content retreads old ground, it would make for a perfect opportunity for Nennai to redo the design for Lelia. And unlike the first game where a single outfit swap required entire sprites and portraits to be redone, the process is much simpler here so it wouldn't take up as much time as before.

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Or for all we know, the next costume would be something random entirely. Nennai did retweet a Warhammer meme once saying that they wanted to make a game with 'Priests in mechas' so who knows? Maybe the next update will have Lelia dressed up as a Space Marine and fighting the Abominations with laser guns and shit. That would be something.

That's all I have to say for now on the costumes. If I were to share my own personal ideas, I would think of something like a Otherworlder Cultist outfit for Lelia as the next costume. It makes no sense lore-wise but it would be interesting to use that costume and roleplay as an alt-Lelia who turned her back on the cult and is fighting to stop it. Unfortunately, Nennai admitted in the article that they won't be taking requests as of now due to their current workload so I guess it'll have to remain a dream for now.

Highway Enemies and Mid-bosses
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Sprite of the unused Zombie Patient enemy. They were originally intended to appear in the cut Isolation Ward area back when Nennai planned for it to serve as the first dungeon. But after two months in development, the area was scrapped and it was replaced by the Vampiric Swamp on May 2023. Unlike the Bobels, these zombies did not survive their parent area's removal from the game.

Much like the Souls games SiNiSistar was inspired by, the enemies and bosses of the game are unique in terms of art direction and concept, which makes it hard to visualize what Nennai will be coming up with next. Cut content won't help us here since barring the special case of the 'Zombie Patient', all enemies with sprites have at least made it to the game in some way. So far, the only enemies I can speculate will be added are 'bandits' which Nennai wanted to add from the start of development. But I already covered them with great detail in my previous speculation post so rather than going over them again, I'd like to instead focus on what changes Nennai will be making to the Highway.

It is interesting that Nennai specifically states they will adding new enemies and mid-bosses on the Highway rather than an entirely new level. While it may seem like a no-brainer given its the overworld, the Highway as of now is thoroughly packed with enemies so that greatly limits the options of where they'll be placed. There are two notably empty areas, those being the Castlevania 2 and the Wand of Hardship dead ends, but by their nature they aren't conducive to placing enemies there.

One possibility is expansion. This is something I can definitely see happening as by expanding the Highway, Nennai can make room for the new enemies as well as creating pathways to future dungeons. Another is changing the enemy placement after the Demi-Human Raid to symbolize the switch to the mid-game. Perhaps this could be explained in the lore as new monsters settling on the Highway after the death of two Abomination Broodlings and the near total annihilation of the Demi-Humans. But another likely answer are new quests. This ties into the new events and NPCs so I'll go into more detail on that later, but basically Nennai created the quest system as a way for the player to interact and be rewarded by NPCs for helping them. Maybe through this system, Lelia will be able to receive news of disturbances from the villagers and when the quest is active, the game loads the quest version of the stage instead of the normal scene, thus allowing the player to encounter and fight the new enemies and mid-bosses.

Out of everything announced so far, the new enemies and potential quests are what I'm most hyped about personally. I seriously can't wait to see what Nennai's cooking up over there!

Let's talk Spiders
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This is all purely speculation on my part since Nennai didn't mention them at all in the recent Ci-en article so I'll keep this brief. Personally I don't think Spiders have begun development yet and are currently benched alongside the Vampiric Swamp expansion for now. It's true that an argument could be made that Spiders are among the enemies and mid-bosses being added to the Highway and that Nennai simply didn't bother to differentiate them, but I don't think so. Spiders are a prominent enemy in the first game, even if they appeared briefly. As they're popular enough to warrant so many requests for them to come back, I don't think Nennai would just add them back in as just another enemy/mid-boss on the Highway. Rather I think they'll be saving them as a prominent enemy for the Vampiric Swamp expansion or add a completely new dungeon just for them.


Again, pure speculation on my part. I could be wrong, and I'm perfectly fine with being proven wrong here! We'll just have to wait and see.

New NPCs and Events
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Concept art of Villager Woman C by Shishikura Sendou. Out of all the designs for the Villagers, hers has always been my favorite. Nennai's descriptions of her in their blog posts also made me assume that she had some kind of hidden past, like being raped by a monster prior to the game's start which I thought was the reason why she looks so gloomy. Then the game released and turns out she just shows up to tell you about the Gravekeeper then dies shortly after. Yeah, that sucked.

Now moving onto the part we're all looking forward to, new events and NPCs in Arcezon Town. When it comes to the state of the town as of writing, we can all agree that the events were lackluster. All we got was one sidequest with the pregnant woman and two events with the Drunkard and the Ruffians. And while personally I think that the silhouette of Lelia being spitroasted by the two thugs is very erotic as it leaves it to the mind's imagination, I do understand why some wouldn't like the way it turned out. (The portrait just being her shoe sucked honestly.) It was quite disappointing to have the town be described as hostile to the sisters, with some townsfolk even warning Lelia to watch out lest she be assaulted and raped should she not be careful, yet those warnings turn out to be a nothing burger.

This state of affairs was unfortunately due to the rushed state of development by the end of 2024. The Ruffian and Drunkard events were added very late in development, being implemented around January 2025. Because of its late implementation, it may have played a major factor in why the game was pushed to an April release.

But with the game finished, Nennai has stated that they will be bringing back events they weren't able to add in development. I'm expecting new events where if Lelia walks around town with damaged clothing, the townsfolk would take her to a nearby alleyway to assault her. Maybe some townsfolk would offer to give Lelia advice, items, or coin in exchange for sex, or that the Traveling Merchant that shows up after the raid is more devilish than he may seem, and might trick Lelia into falling to his debt and having her prostituting herself to make it back or be sold into slavery. All purely speculation on my end, but the possibilities are endless.

What is certain is that there will definitely be more sidequests. As I mentioned earlier in the Highway NPCs section, these quests will probably take the player outside the Town to fight monsters or find a villager that had gone missing as per the Female Mercenary, Lovestruck Guard, and Vampire Child questlines that Nennai entertained during development. (You can read more about them in my previous speculation post.) And with new NPCs, there's a opportunity for Nennai to introduce characters like the Church's Holy Knights, Mercenaries, and other characters mentioned briefly in articles as part of SiNiSistar's world-building to finally make an appearance in-game.


Haanja
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And if we're going to talk about new events in Arcezon Town, we have to talk about Haanja. Out of the many ideas for Arcezon Town that got cut, Haanja's events got shafted the most. As pointed out to me by qwertgdgdg, Nennai initially intended for Haanja to be featured in more H-scenes than she got in the final release. Originally, when Lelia was captured by the Demi-Humans, Nennai considered having the player play as Haanja for a brief section in order to rescue Lelia. Not only that, she was also supposed to have scenes where the townsfolk would assault her in the church while Lelia was off on a mission as well as have her attacked and raped by a wolf-like being. Unfortunately, none of those scenes were made as they didn't have time to implement it.

Fortunately, all is not lost. While I already expected new Haanja events to be a certainty in the coming updates, they were confirmed to be coming in a Twitter post Nennai made when discussing Haanja's voice actress:


ねんない said:
CVは前作の主人公ラビアンを担当した天知遥さん。 悲鳴くらいでしか声の演出はありませんが迫真の熱演をされています。 サブキャラ扱いなのでエッチ面では立ち絵含めて少ししか見ることが出来ないのが残念です。 しかし必ずアップデートで本格的なエッチシーンが追加されるはずだと信じております。

The voice actress is Amachi Haruka, who voiced the main character, Rabiane, in the previous game. Although her voice is limited to screams, she delivers a passionate performance. Since she is treated as a sub-character, it's unfortunate that we can only see a little bit of her erotic side, including her character portrait. However, I believe that full-scale erotic scenes will definitely be added in the next update.
Haanja fans, rejoice. Your prayers have been answered.

Vampires and their possible return
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A ghoul. Originally, Nennai wrote that the ghouls you encounter were corpses reanimated by vampires, not the Gravekeeper. Because they were resurrected by vampires, they developed tentacles in their mouth that made them more adept in sucking out magical energy from their victims. All traces of their vampiric heritage however was removed after vampires were written out of the game's narrative.

Before I end this long and drawn out post, I'd like to entertain the possibility of vampires making their return to the game. For those of you who don't know, vampires were originally supposed to be major antagonists in the story working together with the priests to bring about the Otherworlder's birth in Arcezon. They were intended to play a key part in many of the planned events inside Arcezon Town where they would turn many villagers into new vampires and reanimate corpses into ghouls. However, they were eventually cut and were completely erased from the game's story.

But with Nennai bringing back old concepts for Arcezon Town's events, we may see vampires making a comeback. According to their article titled ' ' where they talk about how the magic system in SiNiSistar operates, they mention that vampires often disguise themselves as elderly men or as beautiful women. Some blend into the crowd, appearing as ordinary townsfolk going by their day, while some vampires cannot and look monstrous from the get-go. Even if vampires can no longer regain their prominence in the narrative, its possible that they may return in Arcezon Town's events where Lelia discovers that the friendly old man/beautiful girl-next-door is actually a bloodsucking vampire or that she's tasked with slaying the vampire taking refuge in the woods.

That's all I have to say for now. Let me know what you think!
 
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Not keeping as it is, because of course that would make the gameplay just impossible. But after Lelia milk herself, you could imagine that she would remove enough to be able to stand and walk away instead of being able to completly remove that status by herself.

On side note, the fact that she can just milk herself to remove the "further enlarged breast" status should imply that she could as well do it for the "enlarged breast"... But somehow, she can't or she won't.
One can assume that after that much effort milking herself, Leila's arms are sore as hell and she can't finish the job. Or you can go back to that funny skit, and Leila wants Haanja to milk her:KEK::PogChamp:
 
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Another day, another . Nennai's Ci-en has recently been updated, but unfortunately there wasn't anything new revealed. Just a look behind the scenes on the Swamp Abomination Brood's concept art and development. However, Nennai did mention that they're currently working on the new content they announced a while back. They're keeping it under wraps for now but from the five items they disclosed before, the ones that are in development are:


  1. New costumes for Lilia (In-progress)
  2. New enemies and mid-bosses on the Highway (In-progress)
  3. The return of the Spider enemies from SiNiSistar (Unknown)
  4. Expansion of the Vampiric Swamp area (Not in development yet)
  5. New NPCs and events inside Arcezon Town (In-progress)

While nothing has been shown so far, Nennai is no doubt working hard behind the scenes on the new content. And if they do get that extra artist they're looking for in their Twitter job offering, development would speed up tremendously. Though as you can see, the Vampiric Swamp expansion most likely hasn't started yet given Nennai did not include it among the content they working on. Given that the average SiNiSistar 2 dungeon took at least 5 - 7 months to develop (Vampiric Swamp and Demi-Human Cave) with only Northeast Village (2 months), Arcezon Cathedral (3 months) and Innards Cave (1 month) being rushed, they are probably saving it for last. Since it's just an expansion and not an original level built from the ground-up, I'd estimate it to take at least 1 - 2 months before its complete.

But with that info out of the way, I'd like to speculate once more on the future content we'll be getting. To imagine what it would look like when it's finally added to the game.

Costumes
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Concept sketch of an alternate Lelia wearing stockings

When it comes to the question of what kind of outfits will we getting for Lelia, I typically take a look at Nennai's prior works, both final and unused, to get an idea for it. Unfortunately, unlike Rabiane who had multiple design revisions during the first game's development, Lelia's design was practically final since the start. The only change Nennai made to her design was to give her tights while keeping the original as an alternate costume named 'Lelia_NoTights'. However, that didn't mean they didn't experiment with other ideas during development. Among these ideas was an alteration of her sister outfit where the skirt and tights were removed in favor of stockings; one even turned her dress into a leotard.
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Despite positive feedback towards the design from both fans and "Nennai's libido", Nennai did not keep it as a costume, stating that they didn't want to further delay the game just to add more costumes. They did however confirm that they will be re-adding both the slit and mini-skirt versions post-launch as extra costumes. Assuming they don't change their mind, these two outfits will be returning for the coming update, possibly with changes to Lelia's outfit to make them further stand-out.

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While it's great that those are confirmed, I personally would find it quite boring if every official alternate costume for Lelia just changes her legwear. Going further than that, I speculate that the first true outfit swap would be the second game's equivalent to Rabiane's white outfit. Considering that most of the second game's content retreads old ground, it would make for a perfect opportunity for Nennai to redo the design for Lelia. And unlike the first game where a single outfit swap required entire sprites and portraits to be redone, the process is much simpler here so it wouldn't take up as much time as before.

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Or for all we know, the next costume would be something random entirely. Nennai did retweet a Warhammer meme once saying that they wanted to make a game with 'Priests in mechas' so who knows? Maybe the next update will have Lelia dressed up as a Space Marine and fighting the Abominations with laser guns and shit. That would be something.

That's all I have to say for now on the costumes. If I were to share my own personal ideas, I would think of something like a Otherworlder Cultist outfit for Lelia as the next costume. It makes no sense lore-wise but it would be interesting to use that costume and roleplay as an alt-Lelia who turned her back on the cult and is fighting to stop it. Unfortunately, Nennai admitted in the blog post that they won't be taking requests as of now due to their current workload so I guess it'll have to remain a dream for now.

Highway Enemies and Mid-bosses
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Sprite of the unused Zombie Patient enemy. They were originally intended to appear in the cut Isolation Ward area back when Nennai planned for it to serve as the first dungeon. But after two months in development, the area was scrapped and it was replaced by the Vampiric Swamp on May 2023. Unlike the Bobels, these zombies did not survive their parent area's removal from the game.

Much like the Souls games SiNiSistar was inspired by, the enemies and bosses of the game are unique in terms of art direction and concept, which makes it hard to visualize what Nennai will be coming up with next. Cut content won't help us here since barring the special case of the 'Zombie Patient', all enemies with sprites have at least made it to the game in some way. So far, the only enemies I can speculate will be added are 'bandits' which Nennai wanted to add from the start of development. But I already covered them with great detail in my previous speculation post so rather than going over them again, I'd like to instead focus on what changes Nennai will be making to the Highway.

It is interesting that Nennai specifically states they will adding new enemies and mid-bosses on the Highway rather than an entirely new level. While it may seem like a no-brainer given its the overworld, the Highway as of now is thoroughly packed with enemies so that greatly limits the options of where they'll be placed. There are two notably empty areas, those being the Castlevania 2 and the Wand of Hardship dead ends, but by their nature they aren't conducive to placing enemies there.

One possibility is expansion. This is something I can definitely see happening as by expanding the Highway, Nennai can make room for the new enemies as well as creating pathways to future dungeons. Another is changing the enemy placement after the Demi-Human Raid to symbolize the switch to the mid-game. Perhaps this could be explained in the lore as new monsters settling on the Highway after the death of two Abomination Broodlings and the near total annihilation of the Demi-Humans. But another likely answer are new quests. This ties into the new events and NPCs so I'll go into more detail on that later, but basically Nennai created the quest system as a way for the player to interact and be rewarded by NPCs for helping them. Maybe through this system, Lelia will be able to receive news of disturbances from the villagers and when the quest is active, the game loads the quest version of the stage instead of the normal scene, thus allowing the player to encounter and fight the new enemies and mid-bosses.

Out of everything announced so far, the new enemies and potential quests are what I'm most hyped about personally. I seriously can't wait to see what Nennai's cooking up over there!

Let's talk Spiders
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This is all purely speculation on my part since Nennai didn't mention them at all in the recent Ci-en article so I'll keep this brief. Personally I don't think Spiders have begun development yet and are currently benched alongside the Vampiric Swamp expansion for now. It's true that an argument could be made that Spiders are among the enemies and mid-bosses being added to the Highway and that Nennai simply didn't bother to differentiate them, but I don't think so. Spiders are a prominent enemy in the first game, even if they appeared briefly. As they're popular enough to warrant so many requests for them to come back, I don't think Nennai would just add them back in as just another enemy/mid-boss on the Highway. Rather I think they'll be saving them as a prominent enemy for the Vampiric Swamp expansion or add an completely new dungeon just for them.


Again, pure speculation on my part. I could be wrong, and I'm perfectly fine with being proven wrong here! We'll just have to wait and see.

New NPCs and Events
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Concept art of Villager Woman C by Shishikura Sendou. Out of all the designs for the Villagers, hers has always been my favorite. Nennai's descriptions of her in their blog posts also made me assume that she had some kind of hidden past, like being raped by a monster prior to the game's start which I thought was the reason why she looks so gloomy. Then the game released and turns out she just shows up to tell you about the Gravekeeper then dies shortly after. Yeah, that sucked.

Now moving onto the part we're all looking forward to, new events and NPCs in Arcezon Town. When it comes to the state of the town as of writing, we can all agree that the events were lackluster. All we got was one sidequest with the pregnant woman and two events with the Drunkard and the Ruffians. And while personally I think that the silhouette of Lelia being spitroasted by the two thugs is very erotic as it leaves it to the mind's imagination, I do understand why some wouldn't like the way it turned out. (The portrait just being her shoe sucked honestly.) It was quite disappointing to have the town be described as hostile to the sisters, with some townsfolk even warning Lelia to watch out lest she be assaulted and raped should she not be careful, yet those warnings turn out to be a nothing burger.

This state of affairs was unfortunately due to the rushed state of development by the end of 2024. The Ruffian and Drunkard events were added very late in development, being implemented around January 2025. Because of its late implementation, it may have played a major factor in why the game was pushed to an April release.

But with the game finished, Nennai has stated that they will be bringing back events they weren't able to add in development. I'm expecting new events where if Lelia walks around town with damaged clothing, the townsfolk would take her to a nearby alleyway to assault her. Maybe some townsfolk would offer to give Lelia advice, items, or coin in exchange for sex, or that the Traveling Merchant that shows up after the raid is more devilish than he may seem, and might trick Lelia into falling to his debt and having her prostituting herself to make it back or be sold into slavery. All purely speculation on my end, but the possibilities are endless.

What is certain is that there will definitely be more sidequests. As I mentioned earlier in the Highway NPCs section, these quests will probably take the player outside the Town to fight monsters or find a villager that had gone missing as per the Female Mercenary, Lovestruck Guard, and Vampire Child questlines that Nennai entertained during development. (You can read more about them in my previous speculation post.) And with new NPCs, there will be a lot more dialogue and interactivity within the Town, making it less boring.


Haanja
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And if we're going to talk about new events in Arcezon Town, we have to talk about Haanja. Out of the many ideas for Arcezon Town that got cut, Haanja's events got shafted the most. As pointed out to me by qwertgdgdg, Nennai initially intended for Haanja to be featured in more H-scenes than she got in the final release. Originally, when Lelia was captured by the Demi-Humans, Nennai considered having the player play as Haanja for a brief section in order to rescue Lelia. Not only that, she was also supposed to have scenes where the townsfolk would assault her in the church while Lelia was off on a mission as well as have her attacked and raped by a wolf-like being. Unfortunately, none of those scenes were made as they didn't have time to implement it.

Fortunately, all is not lost. While I already expected new Haanja events to be certainty in the coming updates, they were confirmed to be coming in a Twitter post Nennai made when discussing Haanja's voice actress:




Haanja fans, rejoice. Your prayers have been answered.

Vampires and their possible return
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A ghoul. Originally, Nennai wrote that the ghouls you encounter were corpses reanimated by vampires, not the Gravekeeper. Because they were resurrected by vampires, they developed tentacles in their mouth that made them more adept in sucking out magical energy from their victims. All traces of their vampiric heritage however was removed after vampires were written out of the game's narrative.

Before I end this long and drawn out post, I'd like to entertain the possibility of vampires making their return to the game. For those of you who don't know, vampires were originally supposed to be major antagonists in the story working together with the priests to bring about the Otherworlder's birth in Arcezon. They were intended to play a key part in many of the planned events inside Arcezon Town where they would turn many villagers into new vampires and reanimate corpses into ghouls. However, they were eventually cut and were completely erased from the game's story.

But with Nennai bringing back old concepts for Arcezon Town's events, we may see vampires making a comeback. According to their article titled ' ' where they talk about how the magic system in SiNiSistar operates, they mention that vampires often disguise themselves as elderly men or as beautiful women. Some blend into the crowd, appearing as ordinary townsfolk going by their day, while some vampires cannot and look monstrous from the get-go. Even if vampires can no longer regain their prominence in the narrative, its possible that they may return in Arcezon Town's events where Lelia discovers that the friendly old man/beautiful girl-next-door is actually a bloodsucking vampire or that she's tasked with slaying the vampire taking refuge in the woods.

That's all I have to say for now. Let me know what you think!
I like it, on the other hand I wanted a part where Leila decided to betray her beliefs, I imagined a section since before the game was complete where after Leila was caught by the priests of the outer god, she was corrupted or brainwashed, which would lead to a "bad ending" type quest line where we side with them and help them attack the village, only for Leila to give birth to the outer god, or on the other hand a line where if Leila is raped many times by monsters or after being pregnant many times she starts to feel sorry for her children and decides to keep one, hiding it and taking care of it maybe even letting it attack some villagers and in the end even Haanja
 

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Concept sketch of an alternate Lelia wearing stockings

When it comes to the question of what kind of outfits will we getting for Lelia, I typically take a look at Nennai's prior works, both final and unused, to get an idea for it. Unfortunately, unlike Rabiane who had multiple design revisions during the first game's development, Lelia's design was practically final since the start. The only change Nennai made to her design was to give her tights while keeping the original as an alternate costume named 'Lelia_NoTights'. However, that didn't mean they didn't experiment with other ideas during development. Among these ideas was an alteration of her sister outfit where the skirt and tights were removed in favor of stockings; one even turned her dress into a leotard.
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Despite positive feedback towards the design from both fans and "Nennai's libido", Nennai did not keep it as a costume, stating that they didn't want to further delay the game just to add more costumes. They did however confirm that they will be re-adding both the slit and mini-skirt versions post-launch as extra costumes. Assuming they don't change their mind, these two outfits will be returning for the coming update, possibly with changes to Lelia's outfit to make them further stand-out.

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While it's great that those are confirmed, I personally would find it quite boring if every official alternate costume for Lelia just changes her legwear. Going further than that, I speculate that the first true outfit swap would be the second game's equivalent to Rabiane's white outfit. Considering that most of the second game's content retreads old ground, it would make for a perfect opportunity for Nennai to redo the design for Lelia. And unlike the first game where a single outfit swap required entire sprites and portraits to be redone, the process is much simpler here so it wouldn't take up as much time as before.

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Or for all we know, the next costume would be something random entirely. Nennai did retweet a Warhammer meme once saying that they wanted to make a game with 'Priests in mechas' so who knows? Maybe the next update will have Lelia dressed up as a Space Marine and fighting the Abominations with laser guns and shit. That would be something.
Nice, while Leila's tights are good, I like stockings more. I love Rabiane white costume a lot as it make her look like high-ranked holy sister or something, so I look forward to Leila white costume as well.
Also, multi-melta is a type of flamethrower in 40K, not related to mecha or robot though. It would be funny if additional contents include flamethrower type weapon, and we have Leila going around burning heretics to ashes. 4-19.png
 
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Nice, while Leila's tights are good, I like stockings more. I love Rabiane white costume a lot as it make her look like high-ranked holy sister or something, so I look forward to Leila white costume as well.
Also, multi-melta is a type of flamethrower in 40K, not related to mecha or robot though. It would be funny if additional contents include flamethrower type weapon, and we have Leila going around burning heretics to ashes. View attachment 4833702
It's less flamethrower and more of a single microwave blast that just kinda explodes things on impact.
 

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I like it, on the other hand I wanted a part where Leila decided to betray her beliefs, I imagined a section since before the game was complete where after Leila was caught by the priests of the outer god, she was corrupted or brainwashed, which would lead to a "bad ending" type quest line where we side with them and help them attack the village, only for Leila to give birth to the outer god, or on the other hand a line where if Leila is raped many times by monsters or after being pregnant many times she starts to feel sorry for her children and decides to keep one, hiding it and taking care of it maybe even letting it attack some villagers and in the end even Haanja
That would be cool! I honestly thought it was missed opportunity that corruption wasn't a thing given the new status system. The last part about Lelia keeping the child sounds like a twisted take on Thornsin's child mechanic honestly. If Nennai ever added a corruption bad ending to the game, I'm hoping it goes like what you're describing. After all, if the priests caught a monster-slaying sister like Lelia, it would a waste to just leave her as a breeding slut rather than also using as their best warrior!

Nice, while Leila's tights are good, I like stockings more. I love Rabiane white costume a lot as it make her look like high-ranked holy sister or something, so I look forward to Leila white costume as well.
Also, multi-melta is a type of flamethrower in 40K, not related to mecha or robot though. It would be funny if additional contents include flamethrower type weapon, and we have Leila going around burning heretics to ashes. View attachment 4833702
It's less flamethrower and more of a single microwave blast that just kinda explodes things on impact.
It's all just my own speculations, but I'm definitely giving it a high chance her white costume will come back. Also your idea that the white costume is the dress of high-ranking sisters is interesting, since I had thought it symbolized Rabiane being the 'bride of the Otherworlder' which is why it exposed so much skin. I'd imagine it'll be hard for priests and bishops in the Church to focus on their prayers if all high-ranking sisters were dressed that way though! :ROFLMAO:
I see! I'm not a Warhammer fan so I assumed 'Multi-Melta' was just some odd spelling of mecha Google and DeepL Translate were giving me. I'd imagine if Lelia had that instead her wand, she'd just bomb the Cathedral into smithereens from the bridge instead of snorting magic cocaine, or smoking out the Demi-Humans out of their cave by burning it down. Game would go from 'horror Castlevania H-game with hot sisters' to 'Aliens' in a matter of seconds!
 

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It's all just my own speculations, but I'm definitely giving it a high chance her white costume will come back. Also your idea that the white costume is the dress of high-ranking sisters is interesting, since I had thought it symbolized Rabiane being the 'bride of the Otherworlder' which is why it exposed so much skin. I'd imagine it'll be hard for priests and bishops in the Church to focus on their prayers if all high-ranking sisters were dressed that way though! :ROFLMAO:
Dev original idea according to old ci-en posts for white costume is to give impression of Rabiane changing to higher and more powerful class , which I assume as some kind of high-ranking holy sister(I have zero knowledge of actual sister clothes hierarchy). But your interpretation as a bride costume sound hot and sexy.

It's less flamethrower and more of a single microwave blast that just kinda explodes things on impact.
Since most artworks depict Melta as over-sized blowtorch with main role is to melt and burn through things at short range, I assumed classify it as some kind of sci-fi flamethrower would make it more easy to understand.
 

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Dev original idea according to old ci-en posts for white costume is to give impression of Rabiane changing to higher and more powerful class , which I assume as some kind of high-ranking holy sister(I have zero knowledge of actual sister clothes hierarchy). But your interpretation as a bride costume sound hot and sexy.


Since most artworks depict Melta as over-sized blowtorch with main role is to melt and burn through things at short range, I assumed classify it as some kind of sci-fi flamethrower would make it more easy to understand.
Fair enough, it's not the most consistent weapon in its depiction anyway much like with the bolters.
 

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Dang I definitely would have preferred this costume lmao


I like it, on the other hand I wanted a part where Leila decided to betray her beliefs, I imagined a section since before the game was complete where after Leila was caught by the priests of the outer god, she was corrupted or brainwashed, which would lead to a "bad ending" type quest line where we side with them and help them attack the village, only for Leila to give birth to the outer god, or on the other hand a line where if Leila is raped many times by monsters or after being pregnant many times she starts to feel sorry for her children and decides to keep one, hiding it and taking care of it maybe even letting it attack some villagers and in the end even Haanja
Yeah I mentioned in this thread god knows how many pages back. There is a lack of corruption aside from the parasites. There could have been a expanded status to Mother of Abominations where she would seek men out to get impregnated to give birth to more of these broodlings. Further more after the priest brainwashing Lilia could have attacked the village to seek out more vessels like Haanja and then lure more sisters from the sisterhood as Queen of Corruption
 

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Dang I definitely would have preferred this costume lmao




Yeah I mentioned in this thread god knows how many pages back. There is a lack of corruption aside from the parasites. There could have been a expanded status to Mother of Abominations where she would seek men out to get impregnated to give birth to more of these broodlings. Further more after the priest brainwashing Lilia could have attacked the village to seek out more vessels like Haanja and then lure more sisters from the sisterhood as Queen of Corruption
queen of corruption
that would be nice dlc or fanfic to have though
 

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save100% ??
Someone else's save here on previous page 100% saved. To install it go to your username>app data> locallow found in C:\Users\ then your username and copy and paste the contents into a folder called Uu, if it doesn't exist run the game just save on 1st slot by the statue when you progress a bit, if not make a folder called Uu I should think then a folder called SiNiSistar2 within that folder it should make a folder in there called SaveData if it doesn't exist and copy all the saves in there.

This might prove a problem if you make new folders, in that case you're better off playing the game or running it till auto saves then search the folder to input this save.


Regarding the game itself, it doesn't even work right on my pc for something that looks old with sprites, it's not made very well and loading times are insane.
 
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Another day, another . Nennai's Ci-en has recently been updated, but unfortunately there wasn't anything new revealed. Just a look behind the scenes on the Swamp Abomination Brood's concept art and development. However, Nennai did mention that they're currently working on the new content they announced a while back. They're keeping it under wraps for now but from the five items they disclosed before, the ones that are in development are:


  1. New costumes for Lilia (In-progress)
  2. New enemies and mid-bosses on the Highway (In-progress)
  3. The return of the Spider enemies from SiNiSistar (Unknown)
  4. Expansion of the Vampiric Swamp area (Not in development yet)
  5. New NPCs and events inside Arcezon Town (In-progress)

While nothing has been shown so far, Nennai is no doubt working hard behind the scenes on the new content. And if they do get that extra artist they're looking for in their Twitter job offering, development would speed up tremendously. Though as you can see, the Vampiric Swamp expansion most likely hasn't started yet given Nennai did not include it among the content they working on. Given that the average SiNiSistar 2 dungeon took at least 5 - 7 months to develop (Vampiric Swamp and Demi-Human Cave) with only Northeast Village (2 months), Arcezon Cathedral (3 months) and Innards Cave (1 month) being rushed, they are probably saving it for last. Since it's just an expansion and not an original level built from the ground-up, I'd estimate it to take at least 1 - 2 months before its complete.

But with that info out of the way, I'd like to speculate once more on the future content we'll be getting. To imagine what it would look like when it's finally added to the game.

Costumes
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Concept sketch of an alternate Lelia wearing stockings

When it comes to the question of what kind of outfits will we getting for Lelia, I typically take a look at Nennai's prior works, both final and unused, to get an idea for it. Unfortunately, unlike Rabiane who had multiple design revisions during the first game's development, Lelia's design was practically final since the start. The only change Nennai made to her design was to give her tights while keeping the original as an alternate costume named 'Lelia_NoTights'. However, that didn't mean they didn't experiment with other ideas during development. Among these ideas was an alteration of her sister outfit where the skirt and tights were removed in favor of stockings; one even turned her dress into a leotard.
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Despite positive feedback towards the design from both fans and "Nennai's libido", Nennai did not keep it as a costume, stating that they didn't want to further delay the game just to add more costumes. They did however confirm that they will be re-adding both the slit and mini-skirt versions post-launch as extra costumes. Assuming they don't change their mind, these two outfits will be returning for the coming update, possibly with changes to Lelia's outfit to make them further stand-out.

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While it's great that those are confirmed, I personally would find it quite boring if every official alternate costume for Lelia just changes her legwear. Going further than that, I speculate that the first true outfit swap would be the second game's equivalent to Rabiane's white outfit. Considering that most of the second game's content retreads old ground, it would make for a perfect opportunity for Nennai to redo the design for Lelia. And unlike the first game where a single outfit swap required entire sprites and portraits to be redone, the process is much simpler here so it wouldn't take up as much time as before.

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Or for all we know, the next costume would be something random entirely. Nennai did retweet a Warhammer meme once saying that they wanted to make a game with 'Priests in mechas' so who knows? Maybe the next update will have Lelia dressed up as a Space Marine and fighting the Abominations with laser guns and shit. That would be something.

That's all I have to say for now on the costumes. If I were to share my own personal ideas, I would think of something like a Otherworlder Cultist outfit for Lelia as the next costume. It makes no sense lore-wise but it would be interesting to use that costume and roleplay as an alt-Lelia who turned her back on the cult and is fighting to stop it. Unfortunately, Nennai admitted in the article that they won't be taking requests as of now due to their current workload so I guess it'll have to remain a dream for now.

Highway Enemies and Mid-bosses
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Sprite of the unused Zombie Patient enemy. They were originally intended to appear in the cut Isolation Ward area back when Nennai planned for it to serve as the first dungeon. But after two months in development, the area was scrapped and it was replaced by the Vampiric Swamp on May 2023. Unlike the Bobels, these zombies did not survive their parent area's removal from the game.

Much like the Souls games SiNiSistar was inspired by, the enemies and bosses of the game are unique in terms of art direction and concept, which makes it hard to visualize what Nennai will be coming up with next. Cut content won't help us here since barring the special case of the 'Zombie Patient', all enemies with sprites have at least made it to the game in some way. So far, the only enemies I can speculate will be added are 'bandits' which Nennai wanted to add from the start of development. But I already covered them with great detail in my previous speculation post so rather than going over them again, I'd like to instead focus on what changes Nennai will be making to the Highway.

It is interesting that Nennai specifically states they will adding new enemies and mid-bosses on the Highway rather than an entirely new level. While it may seem like a no-brainer given its the overworld, the Highway as of now is thoroughly packed with enemies so that greatly limits the options of where they'll be placed. There are two notably empty areas, those being the Castlevania 2 and the Wand of Hardship dead ends, but by their nature they aren't conducive to placing enemies there.

One possibility is expansion. This is something I can definitely see happening as by expanding the Highway, Nennai can make room for the new enemies as well as creating pathways to future dungeons. Another is changing the enemy placement after the Demi-Human Raid to symbolize the switch to the mid-game. Perhaps this could be explained in the lore as new monsters settling on the Highway after the death of two Abomination Broodlings and the near total annihilation of the Demi-Humans. But another likely answer are new quests. This ties into the new events and NPCs so I'll go into more detail on that later, but basically Nennai created the quest system as a way for the player to interact and be rewarded by NPCs for helping them. Maybe through this system, Lelia will be able to receive news of disturbances from the villagers and when the quest is active, the game loads the quest version of the stage instead of the normal scene, thus allowing the player to encounter and fight the new enemies and mid-bosses.

Out of everything announced so far, the new enemies and potential quests are what I'm most hyped about personally. I seriously can't wait to see what Nennai's cooking up over there!

Let's talk Spiders
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This is all purely speculation on my part since Nennai didn't mention them at all in the recent Ci-en article so I'll keep this brief. Personally I don't think Spiders have begun development yet and are currently benched alongside the Vampiric Swamp expansion for now. It's true that an argument could be made that Spiders are among the enemies and mid-bosses being added to the Highway and that Nennai simply didn't bother to differentiate them, but I don't think so. Spiders are a prominent enemy in the first game, even if they appeared briefly. As they're popular enough to warrant so many requests for them to come back, I don't think Nennai would just add them back in as just another enemy/mid-boss on the Highway. Rather I think they'll be saving them as a prominent enemy for the Vampiric Swamp expansion or add a completely new dungeon just for them.


Again, pure speculation on my part. I could be wrong, and I'm perfectly fine with being proven wrong here! We'll just have to wait and see.

New NPCs and Events
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Concept art of Villager Woman C by Shishikura Sendou. Out of all the designs for the Villagers, hers has always been my favorite. Nennai's descriptions of her in their blog posts also made me assume that she had some kind of hidden past, like being raped by a monster prior to the game's start which I thought was the reason why she looks so gloomy. Then the game released and turns out she just shows up to tell you about the Gravekeeper then dies shortly after. Yeah, that sucked.

Now moving onto the part we're all looking forward to, new events and NPCs in Arcezon Town. When it comes to the state of the town as of writing, we can all agree that the events were lackluster. All we got was one sidequest with the pregnant woman and two events with the Drunkard and the Ruffians. And while personally I think that the silhouette of Lelia being spitroasted by the two thugs is very erotic as it leaves it to the mind's imagination, I do understand why some wouldn't like the way it turned out. (The portrait just being her shoe sucked honestly.) It was quite disappointing to have the town be described as hostile to the sisters, with some townsfolk even warning Lelia to watch out lest she be assaulted and raped should she not be careful, yet those warnings turn out to be a nothing burger.

This state of affairs was unfortunately due to the rushed state of development by the end of 2024. The Ruffian and Drunkard events were added very late in development, being implemented around January 2025. Because of its late implementation, it may have played a major factor in why the game was pushed to an April release.

But with the game finished, Nennai has stated that they will be bringing back events they weren't able to add in development. I'm expecting new events where if Lelia walks around town with damaged clothing, the townsfolk would take her to a nearby alleyway to assault her. Maybe some townsfolk would offer to give Lelia advice, items, or coin in exchange for sex, or that the Traveling Merchant that shows up after the raid is more devilish than he may seem, and might trick Lelia into falling to his debt and having her prostituting herself to make it back or be sold into slavery. All purely speculation on my end, but the possibilities are endless.

What is certain is that there will definitely be more sidequests. As I mentioned earlier in the Highway NPCs section, these quests will probably take the player outside the Town to fight monsters or find a villager that had gone missing as per the Female Mercenary, Lovestruck Guard, and Vampire Child questlines that Nennai entertained during development. (You can read more about them in my previous speculation post.) And with new NPCs, there's a opportunity for Nennai to introduce characters like the Church's Holy Knights, Mercenaries, and other characters mentioned briefly in articles as part of SiNiSistar's world-building to finally make an appearance in-game.


Haanja
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And if we're going to talk about new events in Arcezon Town, we have to talk about Haanja. Out of the many ideas for Arcezon Town that got cut, Haanja's events got shafted the most. As pointed out to me by qwertgdgdg, Nennai initially intended for Haanja to be featured in more H-scenes than she got in the final release. Originally, when Lelia was captured by the Demi-Humans, Nennai considered having the player play as Haanja for a brief section in order to rescue Lelia. Not only that, she was also supposed to have scenes where the townsfolk would assault her in the church while Lelia was off on a mission as well as have her attacked and raped by a wolf-like being. Unfortunately, none of those scenes were made as they didn't have time to implement it.

Fortunately, all is not lost. While I already expected new Haanja events to be a certainty in the coming updates, they were confirmed to be coming in a Twitter post Nennai made when discussing Haanja's voice actress:




Haanja fans, rejoice. Your prayers have been answered.

Vampires and their possible return
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A ghoul. Originally, Nennai wrote that the ghouls you encounter were corpses reanimated by vampires, not the Gravekeeper. Because they were resurrected by vampires, they developed tentacles in their mouth that made them more adept in sucking out magical energy from their victims. All traces of their vampiric heritage however was removed after vampires were written out of the game's narrative.

Before I end this long and drawn out post, I'd like to entertain the possibility of vampires making their return to the game. For those of you who don't know, vampires were originally supposed to be major antagonists in the story working together with the priests to bring about the Otherworlder's birth in Arcezon. They were intended to play a key part in many of the planned events inside Arcezon Town where they would turn many villagers into new vampires and reanimate corpses into ghouls. However, they were eventually cut and were completely erased from the game's story.

But with Nennai bringing back old concepts for Arcezon Town's events, we may see vampires making a comeback. According to their article titled ' ' where they talk about how the magic system in SiNiSistar operates, they mention that vampires often disguise themselves as elderly men or as beautiful women. Some blend into the crowd, appearing as ordinary townsfolk going by their day, while some vampires cannot and look monstrous from the get-go. Even if vampires can no longer regain their prominence in the narrative, its possible that they may return in Arcezon Town's events where Lelia discovers that the friendly old man/beautiful girl-next-door is actually a bloodsucking vampire or that she's tasked with slaying the vampire taking refuge in the woods.

That's all I have to say for now. Let me know what you think!
I personally wouldn't be opposed to Sinisister 3 being set in the far future so we can have those nuns in mechs...

There's also a few things you mentioned I think I covered previously, too, though forgive me if I'm wrong. x_x

Anyhoo! I wish Nennai went with the slip + stockings design as the default. It's a lovely combination!

I also agree it sucks we lost that NPC who warned us of the gravekeeper. She deserved more scenes, damnit.

Call me weird, but I can't wait to see the spider content. Their existence in the first game was honestly more memorable than others and part of me hopes they don't all appear in the same area. I mean, imagine having some encounters being isolated to a single spider or two based on passing by an abandoned cottage overtaken by cobwebs, or say noting a random tree that has a spider hiding among the branches, which you only know because it, too, shows signs of webbing.

I still like to think Rabiane's white garbs are a divine gift when she breaks free from the Observer's dream realm...

As for adding new areas, one possible solution is to make them only assessible via fast travel as icons on the world map as they have no connection to the map's usual routes. Could certainly save Nennai some time from having to convert already existing areas to accommodate new zones, which would also work best for the modding community since they wouldn't have to worry about conflicts that may stem from Nennai changing areas ingame for his own content that overlap their changes.
 
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