MakinWaves

Sins Of Night || Love & Vice
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First release and already a solid game, I can't wait to get some Harley content.
So you can choose to be on both Love and Lust route for every character or do you have to choose one eventually?
Will there be a Harem later? Seeing the list of tags and possible content I feel like it's missing.
You get locked to either the vice or virtue route at the end of the first stage. There is a warning at the start of whichever story event you end up unlocking. The first stage just lets you try both and since you haven't really affected the characters much yet. Being able to do both would be nice, but for this game I had to make you choose one or the other for sake of consistency.

So yeah there will be a harem of sort. Just in the sense of the mc having multiple girls on the go. Wouldn't expect to see them all i the same bed though!
 

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Looks good so far. Maybe it's a vampire game with vampires who don't hate being vampires. Usually they end up being presented as a rather depressed bunch who just hate what they are and that ends up being the main story.

But why landlady and roommate look like more of a monster than anyone else :LOL:
 
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loikl

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Another "Avoidable" game :rolleyes:... my suggestion is not to make a fuss, if you enjoy games where girls will be shared on several occasions play it, otherwise skip it.

Yes, yes, it is avoidable, but we all know that that is not real and that the Content always ends up going more to one side than the other.

Same luck to the dev.
 
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weezal

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Yo what is Hazel's relationship supposed to be? The other two are obvious. Being able to choose this relationship kinda confuses me.
 

MakinWaves

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Yo what is Hazel's relationship supposed to be? The other two are obvious. Being able to choose this relationship kinda confuses me.
I just added customization options to any main character the MC already knew. It does state that she's your best friend, met a few years ago. So just leave it at default or have fun with the title! I'll add the ability to change it later.
 

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I just added customization options to any main character the MC already knew. It does state that she's your best friend, met a few years ago. So just leave it at default or have fun with the title! I'll add the ability to change it later.
This is a lot of work, unless someone could figure out a smarter way to do it, but have you ever considered adding interpolated articles besides pronouns to the dialogue? As it is now, (and most games), the titles are restricted to descriptive pronouns like "sister"/"Friend" etc, as just calling them something like "Hazel" (how non-incest dialogues would flow instead of heavy usage of relationship pronoun) results in something like "My Hazel was in the bedroom".

Even though I prefer non-incest, I tolerate it because much dialogue in games like these sounds overly clunky with the relationship pronouns inserted everywhere. People don't constantly refer to their friends as "my friend/my landlord was over there", they just say "hazel/evelyn was over there".

I suppose I could just insert a custom dictionary replacing all instances of "_your [evelyn.rel]" with "[evelyn.rel]" etc, but that might also knock out proper sentences.
 
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So, I'm wondering about the sharing.
Is it the kind where we have to force the girls to do it.
Or is it more romance based?

I really like sharing content but only when the LI wants to do it.
I don't want to force any girl to do something they don't want to do.
 
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Another potentially really good game... With worthless grind system... Why dev..?
Why not let ppl enjoying the game and make ppl just struggle with repeating same scenes 20 times?
 

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this game is coolest christmas present of my life ! I love evelyn is best milf ,she have a muscle body ,and some guy in the club look after her. it means some naughty things will happen in future update ,can't wait to see more . so far so good, right now we have Evelyn and Kate , hope we can focus on these ladys. I believe too many new model it's not help for the story continue , so maybe one more ebony milf ? I think it's a good idea , I really like that ebony aunt model in "Demon Boy".
other thing is about NTR , personal opinions I always have dark twisted Fantasy in my mind, but it's just game right ? maybe there is some extremely path choose will make game more interesting, I guess someone will like, vampire and seek novelty sounds perfect to me. there is a choice in the game about "Black Guys", that is what I want , milf + big dick black guys , OMG it makes me brainstorming !
can you imagine it ? I am crazy anyway , dev you have lot work needs to do. consider gangbang, torture, BDSM, exchange, pornstar or whatever you do just try to make MC stay in the dark, vampire remember ? other hand we have so many harem game out there , sad it's kind makes me boring. it's time to breathe some fresh air. I hope this game will success , because it's so special and it have boundless prospects. if you want sport game just do it , this game is worth it . I just hope dev maintaining communication, keep good work and sharing news to us.
Finally enjoy the Christmas holiday with your familys. and thanks dev give us this stimulating gift in the sweetest moment of the year, you are almost my santa claus . like all ways happy Christmas everyone and don't forget subscribe dev , let's player more game in next year . GTA6 is top of my list now, so we need survival until 2025. Iike that BGM "love is a long road"
and guess we need more patience. before that no matter disease, war, famine, death ... at least we have great game such as
"Sins of Night" !
 
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This started great, you've powers now and your side kick Eve is a good combination of hot and tsundere. But then came the sandbox grind and the story went cliche. What's the best way to spent your time as a nes vampire? According to this story is gonna be perving on your landlady and your roommate :sleep:
 

MakinWaves

Sins Of Night || Love & Vice
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Nov 25, 2020
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This is a lot of work, unless someone could figure out a smarter way to do it, but have you ever considered adding interpolated articles besides pronouns to the dialogue? As it is now, (and most games), the titles are restricted to descriptive pronouns like "sister"/"Friend" etc, as just calling them something like "Hazel" (how non-incest dialogues would flow instead of heavy usage of relationship pronoun) results in something like "My Hazel was in the bedroom".

Even though I prefer non-incest, I tolerate it because much dialogue in games like these sounds overly clunky with the relationship pronouns inserted everywhere. People don't constantly refer to their friends as "my friend/my landlord was over there", they just say "hazel/evelyn was over there".

I suppose I could just insert a custom dictionary replacing all instances of "_your [evelyn.rel]" with "[evelyn.rel]" etc, but that might also knock out proper sentences.
You're right that trying to have multiple variations on the text would be a bunch of extra work. Already it's kind of a pain with just one variable label inserted. You gotta copy paste it all into multiple spell checkers, between the doc and the code, then you're tweaking the text itself later on... Unfortunately a little bit of clunky dialog is something of a price to pay when you have character customisation. If this was a linier VN, i could probably justify the extra work. But there's already a lot of things I have to do for this game's content and systems, and adding to that would be a very bad idea.

I would say it the text is coming out weird with your labels, it's a good sign to consider changing them. I'll be adding that ability to the UI asap!
So, I'm wondering about the sharing.
Is it the kind where we have to force the girls to do it.
Or is it more romance based?

I really like sharing content but only when the LI wants to do it.
I don't want to force any girl to do something they don't want to do.
Well you won't be forcing anyone to do anything. There will probably be some romantic sharing/swinging, but most of it will be you convincing the girls to cross the lines and try new things.
Another potentially really good game... With worthless grind system... Why dev..?
Why not let ppl enjoying the game and make ppl just struggle with repeating same scenes 20 times?
With the way it's set up, you shouldn't have to repeat scenes much at all. I don't make linier click next games, they just don't interest me nearly as much as something that (hopefully) engages you in the process by offering decisions and goals to achieve. There's an endless supply of linier vns to play, and very few sandbox style ones. So I'm much happier to provide the later for those who have that preference.
this game is coolest christmas present of my life ! I love evelyn is best milf ,she have a muscle body ,and some guy in the club look after her. it means some naughty things will happen in future update ,can't wait to see more . so far so good, right now we have Evelyn and Kate , hope we can focus on these ladys. I believe too many new model it's not help for the story continue , so maybe one more ebony milf ? I think it's a good idea , I really like that ebony aunt model in "Demon Boy".
other thing is about NTR , personal opinions I always have dark twisted Fantasy in my mind, but it's just game right ? maybe there is some extremely path choose will make game more interesting, I guess someone will like, vampire and seek novelty sounds perfect to me. there is a choice in the game about "Black Guys", that is what I want , milf + big dick black guys , OMG it makes me brainstorming !
can you imagine it ? I am crazy anyway , dev you have lot work needs to do. consider gangbang, torture, BDSM, exchange, pornstar or whatever you do just try to make MC stay in the dark, vampire remember ? other hand we have so many harem game out there , sad it's kind makes me boring. it's time to breathe some fresh air. I hope this game will success , because it's so special and it have boundless prospects. if you want sport game just do it , this game is worth it . I just hope dev maintaining communication, keep good work and sharing news to us.
Finally enjoy the Christmas holiday with your familys. and thanks dev give us this stimulating gift in the sweetest moment of the year, you are almost my santa claus . like all ways happy Christmas everyone and don't forget subscribe dev , let's player more game in next year . GTA6 is top of my list now, so we need survival until 2025. Iike that BGM "love is a long road"
and guess we need more patience. before that no matter disease, war, famine, death ... at least we have great game such as
"Sins of Night" !
Thank you! I do have to say I have a number of extra characters to add. A lot will be done on a smaller scale to the main cast however. It'll be a lot of wor, and perhaps a long few years of dev time, but I'll be commited to making it work if people are still playing and interested. And of course I aim to offer a wide variety of content styles as choices for people to engage in. So you might see a fair bit of what you're after!
This started great, you've powers now and your side kick Eve is a good combination of hot and tsundere. But then came the sandbox grind and the story went cliche. What's the best way to spent your time as a nes vampire? According to this story is gonna be perving on your landlady and your roommate :sleep:
What can I say, I'm a sucker for the classics. There will be a lot more going on once new characters are added and the main story starts to progress. Plenty of vampire shenanigans and politics, some conflict... I wouldn't take the current content as an accurate representation of the whole. It just takes some time to get everything going!
 

Joshy92

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You're right that trying to have multiple variations on the text would be a bunch of extra work. Already it's kind of a pain with just one variable label inserted. You gotta copy paste it all into multiple spell checkers, between the doc and the code, then you're tweaking the text itself later on... Unfortunately a little bit of clunky dialog is something of a price to pay when you have character customisation. If this was a linier VN, i could probably justify the extra work. But there's already a lot of things I have to do for this game's content and systems, and adding to that would be a very bad idea.

I would say it the text is coming out weird with your labels, it's a good sign to consider changing them. I'll be adding that ability to the UI asap!

Well you won't be forcing anyone to do anything. There will probably be some romantic sharing/swinging, but most of it will be you convincing the girls to cross the lines and try new things.

With the way it's set up, you shouldn't have to repeat scenes much at all. I don't make linier click next games, they just don't interest me nearly as much as something that (hopefully) engages you in the process by offering decisions and goals to achieve. There's an endless supply of linier vns to play, and very few sandbox style ones. So I'm much happier to provide the later for those who have that preference.

Thank you! I do have to say I have a number of extra characters to add. A lot will be done on a smaller scale to the main cast however. It'll be a lot of wor, and perhaps a long few years of dev time, but I'll be commited to making it work if people are still playing and interested. And of course I aim to offer a wide variety of content styles as choices for people to engage in. So you might see a fair bit of what you're after!

What can I say, I'm a sucker for the classics. There will be a lot more going on once new characters are added and the main story starts to progress. Plenty of vampire shenanigans and politics, some conflict... I wouldn't take the current content as an accurate representation of the whole. It just takes some time to get everything going!
I started playing and I really like it so far.
The girls are really beautiful.
 

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You're right that trying to have multiple variations on the text would be a bunch of extra work. Already it's kind of a pain with just one variable label inserted. You gotta copy paste it all into multiple spell checkers, between the doc and the code, then you're tweaking the text itself later on... Unfortunately a little bit of clunky dialog is something of a price to pay when you have character customisation. If this was a linier VN, i could probably justify the extra work. But there's already a lot of things I have to do for this game's content and systems, and adding to that would be a very bad idea.

I would say it the text is coming out weird with your labels, it's a good sign to consider changing them. I'll be adding that ability to the UI asap!

Well you won't be forcing anyone to do anything. There will probably be some romantic sharing/swinging, but most of it will be you convincing the girls to cross the lines and try new things.

With the way it's set up, you shouldn't have to repeat scenes much at all. I don't make linier click next games, they just don't interest me nearly as much as something that (hopefully) engages you in the process by offering decisions and goals to achieve. There's an endless supply of linier vns to play, and very few sandbox style ones. So I'm much happier to provide the later for those who have that preference.

Thank you! I do have to say I have a number of extra characters to add. A lot will be done on a smaller scale to the main cast however. It'll be a lot of wor, and perhaps a long few years of dev time, but I'll be commited to making it work if people are still playing and interested. And of course I aim to offer a wide variety of content styles as choices for people to engage in. So you might see a fair bit of what you're after!

What can I say, I'm a sucker for the classics. There will be a lot more going on once new characters are added and the main story starts to progress. Plenty of vampire shenanigans and politics, some conflict... I wouldn't take the current content as an accurate representation of the whole. It just takes some time to get everything going!
Don't get me wrong, the models are pretty good and the game can be great. My biggest grip right now is the grinding, there is not much right now but the mechanics are there already.
 
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MakinWaves

Sins Of Night || Love & Vice
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Don't get me wrong, the models are pretty good and the game can be great. My biggest grip right now is the grinding, there is not much right now but the mechanics are there already.
That's fair enough. I don't really want people to have to do the same thing over and over again without something new to see in the process. It's partly why I added the objective reward system so you can play in a more objective based manner. Once you've actually seen all the content for a character, you should be very close to levelling them up and unlocking new stuff. That's the sort of philosophy I'll be trying to adhere to.
 

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It's partly why I added the objective reward system so you can play in a more objective based manner.
I noticed that I got a level up message, but there doesn't appear to be a way to "assign points" to MC's powers. Are we going to get those only from story events or an XP system that is independent from the Prestige levels? I would also be curious to know if further into the future you intend to have gameplay/content favor a min/max build or a more balanced approach to Power/Stealth/Glamour?

Nice game. Although I normally disdain sandboxes, I enjoyed your game.
 
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