damnedfrog
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Wow! You are pretty fast!Good news. All the game content is in there. All that's left is bug-checking and the initial version is ready to go.
Wow! You are pretty fast!Good news. All the game content is in there. All that's left is bug-checking and the initial version is ready to go.
So, it's not the end of Inigo Montoya quest?My secret is; I wait until I'm already really far into it before making a post
Also, good news for anyone who was worried about Stephanie's extra finger:
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Hi red_faced.Good news, everyone. The initial buggy first version is here:You must be registered to see the links
Wow! That's a lot of feedback.Hi red_faced.
I just give it a little try (until the first auto-save after the first sleepover).
Here some criticisms (that I hope to be constructive), comments and questions.
I understand the game is at it's earlier development, and you could already have planed to address some of them.
Overall:
During the boardgame:
- I don't figure how to save. Is there there only automatic saving?
- I would like to have an option to go back during dialogs (as with Ren'Py games). Because sometimes I click a bit to fast, or don't paid attention enough to a phrase and want to read it again. And also because I'm a little cheater
and like to try many options when there are choices.
- And also an option to speed up the writing of the text. Sorry I'm a bit too used to Ren'Py game
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- In fact, I'm curious. Your first game run with Ren'Py. Why did you change of game engine?
Is it because it's easier to implement a card game with this one?- Stephanie eyes are very strange. As if she as 2 iris and pupils by eye.
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Anyway, it's promising.
- As I'm a bit dumb
, it take me a few seconds to understand that to play a card, I must slide it on the top area of the board, not just click on double-click on it. It's give a nice feeling of actually playing a cards game, but perhaps not all the players will figure it.
- I can buy cards, but they don't show up in my hand, and so I can't play them. Part of the buying card works, as I see my gold decreased.
- Gold reset to zero at the beginning of each turn. Is it intended?
If so, it makes buying costly cards almost impossible.- After playing a Beggar card, I can get the 4 cards from the trash, but couldn't play the gold and victory cards I already have in hand.
- Sometimes, when I play the Beggar card, there are no card to chose, even if the discard has a lot more than 1 card.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.- Our victory points aren't displayed.
- At the end of the card games, it said I get 5 victory points, when I'm sure I played way more victory cards.
And it's even worst during the first dream, as the Mysterious Woman claim I have 0 VP?!
- The boardgame thing is original. At least, I don't remember playing an AVN with that. As a boardgame myself, I like it (even if it's a bit buggy for now). But prepare yourself for players who won't like it. But as you make a female protagonist with only lesbian action game, I think you are already prepared to a lot of whining
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Thanks for the feedback.I'll say the same thing as above, the actual card game seems bugged.
-There is nothing preventing playing more than one card when we have only one action.
-My hand keeps changing every turn, it does not matter if i played something, bought something or did nothing
-playing gold cards do nothing
So far, the main part of the game seems completely bugged.
The game is very small, and my eyesight very bad, those don't make a good combo, as i often say in others games, if i need a microscope a to play a game, something is wrong.
A little bit on art,
MA never look either at the player or the other characters, I think you should switch her place with the tomboy.
When they all stand side by side, their body proportion (especially the heads) are way out of scale. MA has a head twice the size of the others.
Since I couldn't play the gamecard, I couldn't go far in the game, so i can't say much more than that.
Well, I suppose it's what you wanted by releasing an earlier version of the game.Wow! That's a lot of feedback.
Oh shoot!There is automatic saving only. It happens during the "time passes" screen that appears after the morning.
Yes, I figured it's some like of diffraction by the glasses, but it just feel odd for me.I like her design. I see it as you seeing half her iris through her glasses and half from above her glasses. If there are strong opinions about the character design from players though, I might make some revisions.
I must admit I'm not a big cards deck building games player. I'm more a (very badBuying cards puts them in the discard, and they will appear on future turns after you shuffle your deck.
It's totally my fault, I read this card wrong, thinking it was a way to get card FROM the trash. Not putting the card IN the trash, as the text say.The beggar card lets you remove cards that are still in your hand and haven't been played yet. I can probably make this more clear in the text.
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Again, it was a misunderstanding of the cards game mechanism.Correct. Similar to if you were playing the card game IRL, you would just have to remember which cards you purchased and are in your deck and discard, including how many victory point cards.
Victory Point cards don't do anything when you play them. Just having them in your cards gives you points at the end of the game. Like the thief, I could probably make this clearer in card text. And the Victory Points that you use in the dream shop are different from the Victory Point cards you use in the game... even though they're both called Victory PointsI should probably pick a different name for one of these.
Well, you give us your game for free.I really appreciate you taking the time to play it and type all that out. This stuff is really useful.
2. It makes people discard down to 3 cards (from 5). So it basically reduces your starting hand size from the next turn.Well, I suppose it's what you wanted by releasing an earlier version of the game.
After your answers, I play more as I understand a bit more the cards game.
Oh shoot!
I must say I'm casual player, and alittlebig fat cheater, and I like to save a lot.
I'm aware that it's not the same with an AVN than with a game with lot of combats, where you can loos a lot of progression after loosing a combat.
It's more that with AVN, I like to see all the choices and rarely replay an AVN.
Yes, I figured it's some like of diffraction by the glasses, but it just feel odd for me.
I must admit I'm not a big cards deck building games player. I'm more a (very bad) wargamer. Or a player of boardgame like Terraforming Mars, where there are cards but they are all in your hand.
So I didn't understand well your cards game mechanism at first.
It's totally my fault, I read this card wrong, thinking it was a way to get card FROM the trash. Not putting the card IN the trash, as the text say.
Now, I must admit I really don't see the interest of that card.
After all, the cards in my hand that I don't play will finish in the trash anyway, no?
Again, it was a misunderstanding of the cards game mechanism.
I was thinking that you must play victory cards to actually earn the victory points.
Not that you just have to have them in your deck.
So if I understand well, playing them does nothing. During the game, they just remove options as they take the place of useful card (gold and action card) in your hand. But you need them to win at the end.
Well, you give us your game for free.
I think the less I can do is giving you the more feedback I can to help you improve your game.
So now that I have understand the game a bit more and play it a bit longer, my second round of questions/comments
- I know the game isn't flesh out yet, and than you probably want the things to start slowly.
But after a couple of day, it start to be a bit repetitive.
And people who are here just for some lewd actions risk to drop it fast.- I found a "bug" (more a wrong text). On the Archer card it's written that your opponent must trash 2 cards. And if one of the girls play it, you effectively must discard 2 cards. But when I play it, the dialog says they must discard 3 cards:
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- Still with the Archer, the cards you trash go to your discard, right? So you will get them again after shuffling your discard.
They aren't remove from the game?- When the other girls play the Goblin, they always pick the MC. So after a few times, they often ask the same question, as the set of question is limited to 5.
First, the game should keep trace of what question were already asked to the MC, so the girls won't ask one twice in a row.
Second, they should be able to ask to the other girls. Or they should not buy that card anymore after the MC answer all the questions.- If I don't play some cards in my hand, they just go in the trash, isn't it ?
- I never know when the game is about to end.
A remaining turn counter would be great.- I supposed you will add more option after the card game. Because for now, there are only the choice between watching a movie and playing video-games, and again, it's feel repetitive after a couple of day.
Sorry, it was my poor understanding of English that had struck again.2. It makes people discard down to 3 cards (from 5). So it basically reduces your starting hand size from the next turn.
Ok, I didn't understand that the beggar make you remove the card form the rest of the game.3. I think I'm going to rework it to get rid of the word "trash" since it's just confusing. The archer means cards go into your discard where they will then get shuffled into your deck after you draw through it. The beggar doesn't just discard your cards; it fully removes them from the game (so they won't be shuffled back into your deck).
Perhaps an indicator when the end is near (there only one 6PV card remaining, or 2 of the card piles from the shop are empty.6. It's going to depend on the other girls and what they do, since there's not a set number of turns in the game, but it ends when either the last 6VP card is gone or three of the card piles from the shop are empty. Could be something worth adding in to future versions though to give some kind of indicator when those are close to happening.
Is the "spin the bottle" already available?7. Once you unlock it, you can also do spin the bottle. But yeah, not a lot of options for now.
I think the "game is coming to an end soon" indicator might be good for a future update.Sorry, it was my poor understanding of English that had struck again.
I didn't understand well the "discard down to 3 cards" sentence.
Ok, I didn't understand that the beggar make you remove the card form the rest of the game.
I suppose you can keep the word "trash" to meaning that the card is remove from the game, but just explain it in the rules.
Perhaps an indicator when the end is near (there only one 6PV card remaining, or 2 of the card piles from the shop are empty.
To be honest, I read the rules twice, but didn't catch them very well. And then I forgot a bit of them
Perhaps having a way to recall the rules could help.
Is the "spin the bottle" already available?
Yes, an indicator that the end of the game is near would be great.I think the "game is coming to an end soon" indicator might be good for a future update.
OK, I think must ask about kissing boys.To answer your question, Spin the Bottle is available. It will appear in the dream shop after the MC and her friends have answered enough questions with the goblin cards (specifically, kissing-related questions)
You are created a game like I like (lesbian harem/polyamory), so it's a pleasure if I could give you a little help.By the way, thanks for sticking around and giving a lot of feedback. It's been really useful. From you and @lnomsim
I don't think I will have the time to test it today or tomorrow, but I will let you know if I find anything as soon as I can.I've made some changes that address some of the things you've brought up as well as making the default resolution larger and giving players the ability to re-size the game window.
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