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Voilsh

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Well, time management issues are common in Patreon, and I'm pretty sure it's not even for the money for a lot of them: they just aren't pro about respecting deadline and not adding things every release.
It's not for nothing that Project Managers are important in any professional works.
 

jackkane

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Well, time management issues are common in Patreon, and I'm pretty sure it's not even for the money for a lot of them: they just aren't pro about respecting deadline and not adding things every release.
It's not for nothing that Project Managers are important in any professional works.
yep...it's how hideo kojima got fired...he kept going over the budget repeatably,and missing deadlines
 
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Paitryn

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Slow in that it's taken him 2 years to get to this point and will take probably 2 more years to finish.
And the only other game he finished was Overwhored, which took him 4 bloody years to finish on something that should only take 1. And it was meh at best.


And that's another one of his problems. This was supposed to be an "in-between" project between Overwhored and his next project. 2 years later, he's half finished this and his next project is a sequel to this.
The reason it takes so long is he bogs down his game with frivolous crap, he adds in voice acting even though it'd be quicker not to.
What this guy produces might be good but Jesus does he need to manage his time better.
he would most likely speed up if his patrons told him they would be leaving if he didnt. So many revisions to day 3 with nothing to actually show for it. He's just milking his patrons for all their worth.
 
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matsc

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The problem with this game in terms of time has always been the fact that he commissions art from a number of different artists. One does the pencils, another the inking, and another the coloring. All before finally getting back to him for assembly into the project.

All CZ himself does is the writing and coding. However, as he does commission art in an assembly line process like this, he is at the whims of the artists he hires, who usually have their own deadlines and backlogs to deal with. And hence very very slow.

So yeah he has been adding/modifying previous artwork, just usually while waiting on the main art to get shuttled through the process. You can often watch the process as several of his artists have streams. F-ing (inker) is probably the most often active on live streams, but others have been up and about.
 

TrueUser

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Well, time management issues are common in Patreon, and I'm pretty sure it's not even for the money for a lot of them: they just aren't pro about respecting deadline and not adding things every release.
It's not for nothing that Project Managers are important in any professional works.
A lot of it is this but in his case he isn't a good boss. He's good at doing his end of the work but not good enough in ensuring his freelance artists deilver their art on time. Either because he's a little to soft or he's being cheap/an asshole and not paying them enough or on time
 
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The only thing I like is those voice actresses spice everything up.. Otherwise, this game is just alright.. That monotonic color to stick with the snow storm theme almost hurt my eyes..
 

booom313

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Due to popular demand for android games i've started porting ren'py games to android so here you go :

(v 3 of day 3)

edit 1 :
fixed the install bug you can play normally ( the problem was i set the app picture too big)
 
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OldmenKing

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Snow Daze Chapters 1-3 Ver 4 Public Release

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Paitryn

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he's not releasing any actual content additions until July. No point in even choosing his continous tweaks to day three. I like the way this game is set up and its artwork, but I wont give him a dollar because of his milking practice. at least the other milkers give you something in exchange.
 

Adam_Linkhem

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he's not releasing any actual content additions until July. No point in even choosing his continous tweaks to day three. I like the way this game is set up and its artwork, but I wont give him a dollar because of his milking practice. at least the other milkers give you something in exchange.
This. The guys spends 6 months for an update with 4 scenes. No animation, pretty much single pictures.
 
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muttdoggy

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All he's really been doing afaik is changing the chibis.
That's it.
 

kagekami42

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Due to popular demand for android games i've started porting ren'py games to android so here you go :

(v 3 of day 3)

edit 1 :
fixed the install bug you can play normally ( the problem was i set the app picture too big)
When I try to install the app my phone reads the apk as corrupt. I installed it once but it didn't show up and now when I try to install it my installer registers it as an update despite the app not being on my phone then says it can't install because it is corrupted. I tried re-downloading but that didn't help. Do you have any idea what happened?
 

dartis

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he's not releasing any actual content additions until July. No point in even choosing his continous tweaks to day three. I like the way this game is set up and its artwork, but I wont give him a dollar because of his milking practice. at least the other milkers give you something in exchange.
I'm kind of surprised this wasn't already apparent, to a vast majority of people, as a result of his previous game. I have no grudge against the guy, he seems nice enough, he completes his games and they don't piss me off; but on the list of people I'd fund, if I had money, he's still very low down.

Basically, value is determined by demand and there's usually nothing in his updates that demands my attention.
 
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