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Snowmanly

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Dec 24, 2018
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The mushroom bombs are the biggest cancer in this game. I get that you have to make them hit each other on spawn, but sometimes that's impossible. Make a second way to destroy them. Speaking as someone who almost beat the second level, as well. Also, if they are indestructable, make it so ninja's chain attack does not attack them. I know it does. It's bullshit, it's not fun, it ruins a good run just because, and honestly, it's infuriating as fuck.
 

0nymous

Active Member
Nov 16, 2016
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Trongle
Another claw game/save state bug. When you do the claw game and buy rewards for it BEFORE you Save & Quit from the "camp" menu, you DON'T get to keep your rewards, but you DO lose all your gold. So I just bricked another run because I basically sank 600 gold into nothing.
Reloading after finishing the claw game resets it back to the initial status (10g cost per first use of the claw), but like I said: the game DOES save your spent gold status.

In other words, save scumming possible only before doing the claw game, not after, because it eats your gold.
 

PapaScorch

New Member
Sep 9, 2017
4
5
Just found a spell that literally stops the rockets from ever landing in the first place, but my god did that take a lot of trial and error to figure out.

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I can't wait till we have two spell slots for each heroine. I just can't let go of the heart swap, trumpet,forward net combo
 
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zoom100

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Sep 8, 2017
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Amazing update here, I'm working my way through level 2 - visited the thread because I was stuck trying to figure out mechanics for the rockets - I was sure there was a way to deal with them, I just hadn't figured it out (I've only had time for a couple playthroughs).

I'm 100% onboard with the zero progression design choice; I generally dislike meta progression, so this game feels like it's made for me. Comparisons to "I want to be the guy" seem a bit misguided as that game is intentionally difficult and punishing to an extreme, while this game is difficult but mostly fair. I would imagine that you, as a dev, can probably complete most (all?) runs regardless of RNG on skills/enemy spawns, and this game doesn't require physical dexterity so it's just game knowledge + strategic choices.

I think the addition of the Demonicon is welcome. I find it a bit tedious to have to capture them...but whatever, it works, it's just nice to have that info available. I'd like more info in there - we can see their HP easily in a run, but seeing their attack damage would be very cool - it's hard for me to catch that in-game sometimes. The hints from each ninja for capturing is interesting.

I agree with other players that have said giving hints or some other kind of information about the rockets might be useful. It's been fun to go into level 2 and have to learn the new mechanics, I haven't put in enough time to give any balance input - but if I were going to make a suggestion, it would be to continue making information (and/or hints) available to the player somehow. You seem to be going in a direction that makes some information more easily accessible (I haven't played in a few months) and I like the changes in that direction.

Other comments have mentioned this and I agree: I find the crane game minigame a bit too slow. It's fun to accidentally discover easter eggs there, but the speed of the arm on return and especially the time spent waiting for it to stop swinging before lowering just feels like a waste to me. Maybe I can develop a skill to move it left/right against momentum to stop it swinging faster...you've made good design decisions elsewhere so I'm sure you'll change this or keep it as you see fit.

This game just continues to amaze me every time I revisit it. I appreciate the time and effort put into design and development! Cheers.
 

Dinglederper

Member
Dec 19, 2020
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Comparisons to "I want to be the guy" seem a bit misguided as that game is intentionally difficult and punishing to an extreme, while this game is difficult but mostly fair.
Just to be clear, I specifically said that the IWBTG comparison was about exactly what you're saying; not that the game is just that hard, but that it's about the focus. I don't think the difficulty is a problem in and of itself, but that it feels like I'm being pulled in two very different directions; enjoy smut, which is largely "brain off" mode, or enjoy gameplay, which is at least somewhat "brain on" mode. I think both aspects are great, but my point was about how the two clash (namely, trying to get any of the slave outfit CG for the gallery), not a generic "game bad because hard" complaint.
 

Trongle

Artist, writer, game designer.
Game Developer
Jun 16, 2018
303
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Just to be clear, I specifically said that the IWBTG comparison was about exactly what you're saying; not that the game is just that hard, but that it's about the focus. I don't think the difficulty is a problem in and of itself, but that it feels like I'm being pulled in two very different directions; enjoy smut, which is largely "brain off" mode, or enjoy gameplay, which is at least somewhat "brain on" mode. I think both aspects are great, but my point was about how the two clash (namely, trying to get any of the slave outfit CG for the gallery), not a generic "game bad because hard" complaint.
That's honestly a fair criticism and trust me, I also want to make the erotic content more prevelant because sometimes if your build is a certain way you will barely see anything. I'm always looking for ways to integrate it further, so hopefully with time it is more balanced. Despite what the most recent review says I hope it's pretty obvious from the change log that I DO care about QoL improvements and balancing the game and I do read feedback. I don't want as much bullshit RNG stuff either and with every little change we shave off a rough edge or two. The RNG is already less punishing than it was at the start, and we're still continuing to make improvements.
At the end of the day, I just 1. Don't want to make an easy mode. And I 2. Don't want to add meta progression (maybe in tiny doses), but definitely not with permanent stat boosts for the heroines. I'm not against some REAL balance though.
 

Trongle

Artist, writer, game designer.
Game Developer
Jun 16, 2018
303
802
I love the game but for some reason I have to force quit it with task manager
Yeah I have issues with the quit button sometimes as well, are there specific menus you have a harder time quitting from or anything?
 

sammo905

Member
Jun 28, 2018
265
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no idea if I got what I wanted to say across or if it got lost in writing but the games main issue I was trying to talk about was how the rng could screw the player into unwinable situations and your right it has gotten better over development, but still is an issue as the game is a rather unique in how it plays.

you've made it clear you don't want to make the heroines stronger and that's fine's, your game no need for me to repeat what others said

still the player should probs get more and better tools, tricks and hints to be able to turn the tide in said bullshit situations
(also more jokes those are great)
 
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Thechamel

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Jan 10, 2023
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Yeah I have issues with the quit button sometimes as well, are there specific menus you have a harder time quitting from or anything?
Well talking to the arena girl sometimes bugs and lock me in that menu, and I once got locked on the map of the second floor (my first time there actually) I did manage to defeat it on another playthrought
 
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raxnarokXx

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May 1, 2018
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Well, the game keeps getting easier the more you play it and the spells integration are good game changers.

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Tripwire and Lasso are my favourite skills for displacement purposes.

Also, I'm not sure if being transformed into mushroom allows the heroines to perform 2 or 3 attacks per turn but at random.

Behold how the floor 2 boss got absouletely destroyed...
 
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