Owlman8497

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The third teaser might end up being the image for when the build gets released. I wouldn't expect a apology aside from maybe a light one in the discord/when the build gets release or maybe later a apology in a roadmap or upcoming things type stuff.

Yeah miscommunication on their end made it look even worse. If there was less content but consistent releases there would be less issues overall since you know you can trust what they say etc.
You are right of course

There probably will be an additional teaser.


And I would love to express my concerns to them in a polite manner. However the moment I do I know I'll either not get a response or will be banned from discord.

>Not even in Testing yet even though he said it was on his Paetron
Yeah... I'll see you guys next month.
Yes well worse case you're right and they delay it Bother few weeks into next month.
 

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" Build is going, right now it's smoothing it out. Still hasn't hit testing just yet, so a weekend release shouldn't be expected. "

I guess that means no release this weekend. You know, I could have swore there was this thing. " Updates are released at the end of every second month! " Now they are getting paid "$15,423" and are obligated by their own word to keep to what they say. I would think at 15.4k a month they could afford to meet that quota. ofc they probly just ignore what is said here and i don't expect they would even care what i have to say, but i want to say it anyways. If your going to say you'll Do something, and you get paid a Shitload of Money like that, that I could live off of that much for almost 6 months. Than you should keep your word and not make excuses. maybe i am wrong, but I was raised by a old man that believed a mans word was his worth.
Bravo and well said. I think you'll find most of the people here agree and that's why gunsmoke does not respond on this forum anymore because they know they are doing the wrong thing by their customers
 

destroyerofassholes

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Bravo and well said. I think you'll find most of the people here agree and that's why gunsmoke does not respond on this forum anymore because they know they are doing the wrong thing by their customers
Look, gunsmoke sucks and all

But a major reason why they do not visit this place is that nobody actually pays them here, so there aren't many customers to be found. Most of us are pirates. They aren't beholden to us. Let's not pat ourselves on the back too much.

They are worthless assholes though, that's another matter.
 
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" Build is going, right now it's smoothing it out. Still hasn't hit testing just yet, so a weekend release shouldn't be expected. "

I guess that means no release this weekend. You know, I could have swore there was this thing. " Updates are released at the end of every second month! " Now they are getting paid "$15,423" and are obligated by their own word to keep to what they say. I would think at 15.4k a month they could afford to meet that quota. ofc they probly just ignore what is said here and i don't expect they would even care what i have to say, but i want to say it anyways. If your going to say you'll Do something, and you get paid a Shitload of Money like that, that I could live off of that much for almost 6 months. Than you should keep your word and not make excuses. maybe i am wrong, but I was raised by a old man that believed a mans word was his worth.
Especially with Porn Artist/Porn Game Makers I feel like Paetron needs to put in place a system where if promises aren't kept and are constantly broken there should be some sort of tally/marking system and if enough marks are made they're taken down off of Paetron.
 

destroyerofassholes

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Especially with Porn Artist/Porn Game Makers I feel like Paetron needs to put in place a system where if promises aren't kept and are constantly broken there should be some sort of tally/marking system and if enough marks are made they're taken down off of Paetron.
Patreon makes money, they don't care. They won't ever regulate the shit in their system provided they aren't clearly illegal.

Patreon artists being lazy fucks is simply mostly an unsolvable problem. Their supporters tend to be the kind of people who are easily manipulated into paying out of goodwill, so "voting with your wallet" is not a thing once a porn game gets any sort of recognition
 
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Patreon makes money, they don't care. They won't ever regulate the shit in their system provided they aren't clearly illegal.

Patreon artists being lazy fucks is simply mostly an unsolvable problem. Their supporters tend to be the kind of people who are easily manipulated into paying out of goodwill, so "voting with your wallet" is not a thing once a porn game gets any sort of recognition
It sucks but you're not wrong. It's bad though and probably wont ever change.
 
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The only way it'll change is if Patreon enforces rules about how often content must be provided. Which, in all honesty, is something they should have done years ago.
 
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Nah the actual solution to these issues already exist because Patreon was smart enough to include a pay-by-release model. Even though they'll pretend otherwise when it's convenient, 95+% of the money coming in is specifically for SU. New update comes out after X excuses and Y delays, everyone's account gets pinged, done. Then you just have the asset dumps or whatever bonus comic stuff he decides to crank out as a tier indicator you tie to their discord. That way the patrons just look for an updated mega/filehost/whatever in the discord that non-patrons can't access and boom literally every issue is solved.

But then they would be honest patreon model and not scammin people out of their money so that will never happen. :KEK:
 

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Nah the actual solution to these issues already exist because Patreon was smart enough to include a pay-by-release model. Even though they'll pretend otherwise when it's convenient, 95+% of the money coming in is specifically for SU. New update comes out after X excuses and Y delays, everyone's account gets pinged, done. Then you just have the asset dumps or whatever bonus comic stuff he decides to crank out as a tier indicator you tie to their discord. That way the patrons just look for an updated mega/filehost/whatever in the discord that non-patrons can't access and boom literally every issue is solved.

But then they would be honest patreon model and not scammin people out of their money so that will never happen. :KEK:
problem with that is that with pay-by-release model is that then they may choose to release broken small updates so that they get more money or just release small update that my not even add stuff just so that they get money every month instead of just only when they release as they do now even if i can agreed they need to keep to a Release timetable
 

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Honestly, at this point it’s really fucking surreal how every release nearly the exact same thing happens, “complaints about the release method” “don’t pay don’t criticize response” “criticism about not making the deadline” “someone defending it for some reason” etc etc. like at this point I’m kinda impressed how damn similar it is every single release/lead up to release
 

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The third teaser might end up being the image for when the build gets released. I wouldn't expect a apology aside from maybe a light one in the discord/when the build gets release or maybe later a apology in a roadmap or upcoming things type stuff.

Yeah miscommunication on their end made it look even worse. If there was less content but consistent releases there would be less issues overall since you know you can trust what they say etc.
the way you say it feels like they should go back to monthly content...
 

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Well, I think they would have to see it out already because they said they were going to be at the end of this week that maybe the thing will complicate it, it may be I hope it comes out throughout the week that is not for the weekend already The delay is worth updating, I think so
 

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Look, gunsmoke sucks and all

But a major reason why they do not visit this place is that nobody actually pays them here, so there aren't many customers to be found. Most of us are pirates. They aren't beholden to us. Let's not pat ourselves on the back too much.

They are worthless assholes though, that's another matter.
You'd be surprised just how many people are willing to throw a few bucks at a project they really like. You have a lot of devs that interact here even though people actively pirate their games. Why do you think that is?
 
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