1138op

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Yeah honestly, this is the worst part. It's tedious and breaks whatever little immersion that game used to have.

The worst part is that somewhere in all this we lost the original gameplay loop - capture heroines, send them out to make money, and fuck them in your lair.

This game has been a glorified CG for a while now, and I'm losing hope that it'll ever be anything more than that.
Yeah, immersion was always a grey zone as far as how realistic the premise was. But since their was a JLU episode to base it on where Lex and Roulette picked a fight club instead of a bordello, it was fine.

Updates like this (bar the horrible downward trend the art has made) break whatever believabilty the plot had.
So the whole idea was that the devices make it so that the girls not remember what happens during their nighttime in Lex's dungeon, ok, so far so good.
Now, Lex brings Barbara as his date to the villains ball at night. Its fine she will not remember it during her waking hours and the JL and Batman ar non the wiser. However, Barbara can interact with both her father and Bruce, there are even moments where Lex is busy in his booth with whomever of the other ladies so Babs is free to wander. What is stopping Babs from spilling the entire thing to har father or Bruce, since while at night, she is aware of it all?
 

festerloves

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FUUUDGE ! Can you imagine if he drew his girls like that ! BAABAA BOOEY !

Instead, we have whatever ginormous tits tortuous poses that he came up with in a rush. I'm tapped out of checking out his work, it just doesn't work for me anymore.
Thaaaaaaat's AI baby! Generic style indistinguishable from any of the 10,000 prompted waifus that the hoard of furiously masturbating coomers on /aco/ made last night from the same dataset.

Only now it's in a game you can pay cash money for! Isn't AI great folks?! Aren't you happy that
content creation
has been "improved" so much that you totally don't need an artist anymore?

Making art for the sake of art vs making art for the money.
Art has always been about making money. The Sistine Chapel was commissioned bible fanart. This dumbass "You should be happy I even want to look at your work let alone pay you" take is why you get (and deserve) lazy, minimum effort slop.
 
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PULALAU1

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Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
15 years or so ago, Sunset was one of the greatest western porn artists out there, in my opinion.
I remember following him closely when he was posting TMNT and ATLA art back on the old WWOEC forums.
And now, we're stuck with this deformed AI-generated bile.
jesus 15 years ?
 
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pinkie96

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Gave up on this years ago due the art being the only thing holding it up which started to decline in quality. Now people are saying it's using ai art? This slideshow is a money making machine.
 
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PULALAU1

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well you can say all you want that the all mighty fall but he still make some nice money from his patreon
 

gnd53

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pretty bummed they decided to start using AI art.
They aren't using AI, just because the art is trash doesn't mean it's AI. It just means Sunset is phoning it in.

The sad thing is that AI could actually do a better job than Sunset at this point.

For example, I whipped these up in just a few minutes using a generic DCAU lora (not trained on any sunset images afaik) and a single inpainting pass over the faces to clean up some detail.

You could look at these and figure out that they're AI generated, but the complaints about the art in this update are just because he's really dropped the ball on quality.

I'm just really tired of all these dumbasses calling "AI" when the real culprit is shit artists. Don't let sunset off the hook so easily!
 
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The real issue for me with the game isn't so much that the art sucks now, it still seems fine to me. The real issue is that for literal years now, there has been almost no depth added to any of the story lines or sex interactions. The game is wide as an ocean and deep as a puddle.

Each update adds either a heroine or two with the standard dance-strip-bj-fuck-anal loop or some event that's disconnected from the rest of the game and lets you chose who to have sex with by clicking their names over and over. The best stuff is the batgirl-supergirl stuff where the characters actually seem conflicted about their descent into depravity, but there's *so little* of that kind of stuff because it's so much easier to just follow the template and add some new obscure version of a heroine every time.

The game would benefit greatly from adding no new characters and just developing the (very large) cast of existing characters, so it doesn't feel like I'm just throwing a new person in the dungeon each week and talking to them until we have anal sex, then forgetting about them forever.
 

destroyerofassholes

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I like the new event. And I far prefer sunset's newer art.

Yeah controversial whatever. I have like a billion comments on this thread shitting on this game and its devs.

But the art becoming more flanderized with more porn like proportions is just normal. Timm's style is unique but the old batman and JLU cartoons are just that, action cartoons. Their designs have no real curves to do porn with and drawn porn just tends to be flanderized and I don't think that's a bad thing. People like big tits and asses on thin waists. It's an ideal that can't be reached in real life and people like the fantasy of it.

Doesn't mean I enjoy it when sunset is lazy as shit like that special event in Themyscira where we had like 10 girls all of which with the exact same pose body and face, that sucked.

But other than that, I genuinely do think that Sunset is trying a tad harder with the art and poses compared to back when we were still getting cell content. A lot of them are boring as shit.

And one more thing, as much as I hate sunset, the man really does do well with batman/jlu style dialogue. It's actually kind of immersive. Other than the sex, of course, but I've never seen a porn game do dialogue in sex well, like ever.
 

avitus83

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Yeah, immersion was always a grey zone as far as how realistic the premise was. But since their was a JLU episode to base it on where Lex and Roulette picked a fight club instead of a bordello, it was fine.

Updates like this (bar the horrible downward trend the art has made) break whatever believabilty the plot had.
So the whole idea was that the devices make it so that the girls not remember what happens during their nighttime in Lex's dungeon, ok, so far so good.
Now, Lex brings Barbara as his date to the villains ball at night. Its fine she will not remember it during her waking hours and the JL and Batman ar non the wiser. However, Barbara can interact with both her father and Bruce, there are even moments where Lex is busy in his booth with whomever of the other ladies so Babs is free to wander. What is stopping Babs from spilling the entire thing to har father or Bruce, since while at night, she is aware of it all?
First, I totally agree with you in the losing the original gameplay loop; I was kind of hoping to see the metabordello and stuff like that really fleshed out, with lots of new stripping scenes, costumes, etc. Instead of going deeper, they went wider and the whole experience lacks the immersion of the early iterations.

Second, I think this game is a good example of a game that was good in the early nascent days of the WEG scene. Almost 10 years ago, it was basically Princess Trainer and a whole bunch of crap. Anything that seemed remotely/slightly higher quality was put on a pedestal. I first learned about SU on ULMF before F95 came into existence, and SU seemed head and shoulders above its contemporaries as far as art quality and content went. Now there are numerous high quality projects out there, and SSR7's art seems all samey (and you can even just make art in his style with the right LORA off of CivitAI now). Everything that made this game special is in the past, and the devs have no idea how to stay relevant.
 
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