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Leppo

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This roadmap is really interesting (thanks for posting), and I know that everybody has their favorites, but I'm curious how those three were chosen. Are they the artist's favorites, fan favorites, something else?

I'm not complaining, just curious, as I'm sure if you asked everybody on this thread who the next three would be, you'd get a lot of very different answers.
 
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Gunsmoke Games

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This roadmap is really interesting (thanks for posting), and I know that everybody has their favorites, but I'm curious how those three were chosen. Are they the artist's favorites, fan favorites, something else?

I'm not complaining, just curious, as I'm sure if you asked everybody on this thread who the next three would be, you'd get a lot of very different answers.
Dev favorites are not factored into the equation.
 
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Corvotalk

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According to Newman's patreon it sounds like GG weren't really responsive when he was making the Scooby game. And they told them he couldn't work on it on his own after they decided to cancel it.
 

KaiserST

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Feel free to download, or share the link anywhere:


I want to emphasize. The art available through the link belongs to me and me only. SmokeShank from Gunsmoke games paid for it to appear on a game I created (game design, script, UI, characters, backgrounds, scenes...) and he was planning to release first in Newgrounds, then an updated version with more content on their Patreon.

Smoke paid me so I could work on the art, but this doesn't give him or Locke legal right to share any of it without my permission. They did without telling me, and also cancelled the game I had been working on for 16 months without even a word. Part of me was glad, because the communication and organization had been basically non-existent, and when Skype calls happened, it was to either tell me to keep going, that everything was fine, or that everything was wrong and I had to change the game completely. They kept information from me, I only ever saw ONE build of the game with almost no content, changed the script many times till the production process slowed down to a crawl, all the while refusing to admit they had done, or were doing anything wrong.


Then, after I asked that if they weren't willing to do anything with the project, they minded if I took over, with Akanoes as a coder, and free of any obligations or charges of any kind, allow me to finish on my own, the threats started. Then when I asked how could this harm them in any way, and that if there was a real reason I wouldn't do it, I got called a thief and lazy. Amazing coming from the two guys that didn't give enough of a shit about the project to even read the design document to see how the game WAS going to be like.

I took a deep breath. Then I said fine, I don't get it but I won't make the game, I'll just do the same you did and give my patrons the assets so they see the work I had been doing. Then the REAL shit started flying. Threats to use all of their fans against me, to sink Ben X, to use their bank to reclaim money they had paid me... a real freak show.

I can understand if people's busy and can't work. I even think I could have made a few things clearer, like the use of documents and why communication is so important. But from my meeting with Smoke and Sunset in Canada, I got that they were really cool indie devs that just wanted to make cool games. That was the case for Sunset, no doubt. I don't think he is to blame in any way.

As for the rest. You can't just throw money at a project and expect it to magically manage itself. If I had been allowed to, I would have, on my own. I'm good at it. But all I got was changes and more changes, till the game was unrecognizable. Somehow I'm to blame, apparently. Not the manager. Not the coder who didn't send me any builds and complained about every single feature that made the game interesting -and his job more than just placing scene after scene- Me.

Anyway, sorry for the rant, but as you can imagine, I'm not very happy right now. Silver lining, here's the art for you guys to enjoy! XD I also included some design docs, I think most of it from my original vision for the game. It proves a lot of what they're saying to be either wrong, or even straight lies, but most of all I hope it proves that I really cared about this game, and I really, really wanted to share it with you guys.

Talk soon,

Newman.

As always there appears to be another side to the story. Howver seeing SR7's discord makes me think that things weren't as simple. It's a shame that the game is cancelled, however since we don't know much about the what was happening on the background I think it's better to not take sides.
 

ChefGoldblum

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lmao this drama over a fucking newgrounds flash game. I'm glad it's cancelled because I extremely doubt anyone was going to their patreon for that. Yet that then begs the question of: Why is anyone not named Sunset getting money if SU is a one-man-show? Getting paid for cheerleading I suppose? If the roadmap of the roadmap is anything to follow, Babs might be on the table after Artemis seeing how they seem to be going off of who already has Bordello work done. Which means it might be a good while before fan favorites get worked on. Strange how that works out, yeah?
 
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LordCorwin

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Haven't seen this kind of drama since Death Star Trainer run off with Screw Wars' shit, holy cow man. Honestly wish they could have just settled things without involving their fans, especially Newman who basically sicked his followers upon Sunset and theirs. Dick move.
 

SubjectTest3?

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Newman's Update on the Scooby game:


Just nowhere close to Locke, it seems.
I was talking with Smoke from Gunsmoke Games for a long, long time. We discussed everything that has happened, and came to realize that this has been mostly a huge miscommunication fuck-up. As I've said many times, there's nothing further from my intentions to harm them in any way, but I was so pissed off I didn't think how this would affect them. With reason, but still. I love their games, respect Sunset as an artist and coder, and want to keep playing their games for many years to come. That Killer Frost... she really tingles my unmentionables, man.

It sems GG is ok with me to continue working on the game on my own at some point in the future, using the assets I made for them while they were funding me. Smoke told me there will be a post in their Patreon as soon as he can.

I hope this is the case. I don't know when Akanoes and I will work on Scooby, but it seems all of my work won't go to waste. For now though, we're focusing on Ben X.

Thanks a lot to all of the players and creators that have sent me messages these couple of days. More news soon,

Newman.
 
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xslayermkdx

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How to get the scene with Poison Ivy & BatGirl in bordello says in walkthrough there is scene like that tried a lot of times hired Poison Ivy posted to work in meta bordello put BatGirl in all 3 rooms in bordello also tried in private room but nothing need time or am i missing something if RNG its factor i mean how many times tried a lot so what am missing if someone answers soon will be really appreciated!
 

holyman_dude

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How to get the scene with Poison Ivy & BatGirl in bordello says in walkthrough there is scene like that tried a lot of times hired Poison Ivy posted to work in meta bordello put BatGirl in all 3 rooms in bordello also tried in private room but nothing need time or am i missing something if RNG its factor i mean how many times tried a lot so what am missing if someone answers soon will be really appreciated!
It's a bit confusing because, unlike other interactions like this, Ivy needs to not be posted at the Bordello, in fact she needs to not be hired at all. She should show up randomly as a customer of Batgirl's at the bordello as long as she isn't hired or posted to another location.
 

RobertoCasas

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lmao this drama over a fucking newgrounds flash game. I'm glad it's cancelled because I extremely doubt anyone was going to their patreon for that. Yet that then begs the question of: Why is anyone not named Sunset getting money if SU is a one-man-show? Getting paid for cheerleading I suppose? If the roadmap of the roadmap is anything to follow, Babs might be on the table after Artemis seeing how they seem to be going off of who already has Bordello work done. Which means it might be a good while before fan favorites get worked on. Strange how that works out, yeah?
I hate to say it but I absolutely agree with this. If SU and Scooby were the only projects then there's a couple of people who need to justify their salaries, no offense. But yes, 16 months for creation of a game and they can't communicate on it while SR7 is still soloing SU and delivering build after build? The team needs work.
Hopefully there's a new project already in the works or a side project that just got pushed up to main focus.
 

xslayermkdx

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It's a bit confusing because, unlike other interactions like this, Ivy needs to not be posted at the Bordello, in fact she needs to not be hired at all. She should show up randomly as a customer of Batgirl's at the bordello as long as she isn't hired or posted to another location.
1.But where Batgirl needs to be posted in Bordello or Private room?
2.How activate that scene through Offices, Surveillance Office?
 
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