Unity Something Unlimited [v2.4.8] [Gunsmoke Games]

[lollapoza]

It hurts to look at all this. Despite the fact that the game itself (although in all respects it is VN) i like, more and more I want him to have already closed the project or the game itself will fall apart.

 

[pinkie96]

I believe SR7 when he says bugs in the code are causing delays.

I also believe he has had plenty of time to redo the game from scratch but has instead chose to keep updating an already broken game, costing him more time than what a rebuild would've in the first place.

I just wish Something Trainer wasn't abandoned

 

[deltase7en]

I dont think SR7 is lazy, his problem is a legacy of lack of knowledge in the inception of his game that came to bite him years later, and bad management, the guy is almost each week putting himself out there doing streams and answering questions, at least he is showing he is doing something, but if he continues to work like this, its going to be impossible for him to continue to work on this game the way its built, not because people are complaining or not, its just going to burn him out because of how many bugs one build will create.

Which comes to this, he came to discord and explained a few days ago that the problem is that whatever they try to change or add, it creates problems and they have to stop everything to fix, and now the complexity of the game just create this massive headache thats dealing with this, a few months i was datamining the game because i wanted to create a mod for it, and the code was literally what i expected from someone that never coded before, but wanted to make something simple out of, years later came to this and now he has to deal with it.

The solution its kind of simple actually, even though he tried and the programmer just bailed out of the project, he has to understand that this game its going to fall on itself if he doesnt plan to rebuild the source code from the ground up, what i would do(and do with my job as a developer when there is a need to replace a old important service thats still been used) its to develop in parallel to the current version of the game and feed the content in once the "skeleton" of the game is done and eventually, turn over to the new version, and management wise making a deliverable in 2 weeks and 1 week for testing, taking in to consideration how much can be done in the meantime, deciding on the size of the update between these weeks of development and having a close build for the next update, and of course, NEVER start teasing a new update if you arent even sure that its ready to go, people get pissed off not because there isnt a update, its more because there was a perspective of having a update, and in the day that should come the update, radio silence, just so the next day pushing for next week, people do get frustrated because its expected a product, which is, you want it or not, a fair criticism.

In conclusion, if they dont have plans to remake the code for this game, i dont think this game will have much of a lifetime, i can say for sure that looking at the code, i can see the hell that is to even touch it, so thats why i can see that he isnt lying and that he is trying, but at the end of the day, this problem its going to get way worse the more he puts content in and the tendency its for the updates to get larger times in between build releases, and i dont think even SR7 wants to deal with this, the only thing i would say its, people have the right to be mad but try to understand as well, SR7 in comparison i think its a great guy because he doesnt run from his community and get radio silence for years and just decide to talk for the game to not get the abandoned tag, the only thing that annoys me its, or people defend him as if its ok to keeping pushing the release another week(As if even SR7 think this is cool and ok) and demonize the people that gets frustrated about the releases, or just saying that he is lazy because the release have not come out when there are way more problems that if you just search for a few minutes, you can see that the problem its still his fault, but it has nothing to do with been lazy, he is working harder, but not smarter its what i concluded with the information that he gives from time to time, not that it really matters really, eventually the update will come out, i'm just kind of pissed from people on the discord defending the fact that its ok to just keeping pushing updates when there was a ETA and mocking people that are not happy about it, and people here that every time this happens, there is a he is lazy and worse or as bad as _*really bad developer that milks money from his patreon with no content to deliver*_, this game will never get better like this.

 

[raey578]

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A Change of Pace.
We had originally planned to get this update out then do a small "tune up" update to fix issues and add in content that was cut through out the year. But things don't always go to plan and we've had a lot more trouble than was expected. So we are going to combine the builds. Rather than do two turn-arounds this late in the year. Pulling back on Wonder Woman or other content isn't something we would like to do unless we absolutely had to.

Thanks for the patience guys, we will be sure to have it out before the end of this month.

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I love how he says he will "try" to get the update out before the end of the month. He purposely uses vague words so when november 30th comes around, and ppl are wondering where the update is, his hard horndog patrons can be like, "he said he would TRY to get the update out, he didnt say it would definitely come out, just wait you losers." Its honestly amazing how sr7 doesnt even need to defend himself anymore, his patrons will .

 

[olololo1234]

Which heroines can be put into exhibition in the MB?

 

[raey578]

I dont think SR7 is lazy, his problem is a legacy of lack of knowledge in the inception of his game that came to bite him years later, and bad management, the guy is almost each week putting himself out there doing streams and answering questions, at least he is showing he is doing something, but if he continues to work like this, its going to be impossible for him to continue to work on this game the way its built, not because people are complaining or not, its just going to burn him out because of how many bugs one build will create.

Which comes to this, he came to discord and explained a few days ago that the problem is that whatever they try to change or add, it creates problems and they have to stop everything to fix, and now the complexity of the game just create this massive headache thats dealing with this, a few months i was datamining the game because i wanted to create a mod for it, and the code was literally what i expected from someone that never coded before, but wanted to make something simple out of, years later came to this and now he has to deal with it.

The solution its kind of simple actually, even though he tried and the programmer just bailed out of the project, he has to understand that this game its going to fall on itself if he doesnt plan to rebuild the source code from the ground up, what i would do(and do with my job as a developer when there is a need to replace a old important service thats still been used) its to develop in parallel to the current version of the game and feed the content in once the "skeleton" of the game is done and eventually, turn over to the new version, and management wise making a deliverable in 2 weeks and 1 week for testing, taking in to consideration how much can be done in the meantime, deciding on the size of the update between these weeks of development and having a close build for the next update, and of course, NEVER start teasing a new update if you arent even sure that its ready to go, people get pissed off not because there isnt a update, its more because there was a perspective of having a update, and in the day that should come the update, radio silence, just so the next day pushing for next week, people do get frustrated because its expected a product, which is, you want it or not, a fair criticism.

In conclusion, if they dont have plans to remake the code for this game, i dont think this game will have much of a lifetime, i can say for sure that looking at the code, i can see the hell that is to even touch it, so thats why i can see that he isnt lying and that he is trying, but at the end of the day, this problem its going to get way worse the more he puts content in and the tendency its for the updates to get larger times in between build releases, and i dont think even SR7 wants to deal with this, the only thing i would say its, people have the right to be mad but try to understand as well, SR7 in comparison i think its a great guy because he doesnt run from his community and get radio silence for years and just decide to talk for the game to not get the abandoned tag, the only thing that annoys me its, or people defend him as if its ok to keeping pushing the release another week(As if even SR7 think this is cool and ok) and demonize the people that gets frustrated about the releases, or just saying that he is lazy because the release have not come out when there are way more problems that if you just search for a few minutes, you can see that the problem its still his fault, but it has nothing to do with been lazy, he is working harder, but not smarter its what i concluded with the information that he gives from time to time, not that it really matters really, eventually the update will come out, i'm just kind of pissed from people on the discord defending the fact that its ok to just keeping pushing updates when there was a ETA and mocking people that are not happy about it, and people here that every time this happens, there is a he is lazy and worse or as bad as _*really bad developer that milks money from his patreon with no content to deliver*_, this game will never get better like this.

Does anyone know why the programmer he hired bailed on the project?

 

[lollapoza]

I dont think SR7 is lazy, his problem is a legacy of lack of knowledge in the inception of his game that came to bite him years later, and bad management, the guy is almost each week putting himself out there doing streams and answering questions, at least he is showing he is doing something, but if he continues to work like this, its going to be impossible for him to continue to work on this game the way its built, not because people are complaining or not, its just going to burn him out because of how many bugs one build will create.

Which comes to this, he came to discord and explained a few days ago that the problem is that whatever they try to change or add, it creates problems and they have to stop everything to fix, and now the complexity of the game just create this massive headache thats dealing with this, a few months i was datamining the game because i wanted to create a mod for it, and the code was literally what i expected from someone that never coded before, but wanted to make something simple out of, years later came to this and now he has to deal with it.

The solution its kind of simple actually, even though he tried and the programmer just bailed out of the project, he has to understand that this game its going to fall on itself if he doesnt plan to rebuild the source code from the ground up, what i would do(and do with my job as a developer when there is a need to replace a old important service thats still been used) its to develop in parallel to the current version of the game and feed the content in once the "skeleton" of the game is done and eventually, turn over to the new version, and management wise making a deliverable in 2 weeks and 1 week for testing, taking in to consideration how much can be done in the meantime, deciding on the size of the update between these weeks of development and having a close build for the next update, and of course, NEVER start teasing a new update if you arent even sure that its ready to go, people get pissed off not because there isnt a update, its more because there was a perspective of having a update, and in the day that should come the update, radio silence, just so the next day pushing for next week, people do get frustrated because its expected a product, which is, you want it or not, a fair criticism.

In conclusion, if they dont have plans to remake the code for this game, i dont think this game will have much of a lifetime, i can say for sure that looking at the code, i can see the hell that is to even touch it, so thats why i can see that he isnt lying and that he is trying, but at the end of the day, this problem its going to get way worse the more he puts content in and the tendency its for the updates to get larger times in between build releases, and i dont think even SR7 wants to deal with this, the only thing i would say its, people have the right to be mad but try to understand as well, SR7 in comparison i think its a great guy because he doesnt run from his community and get radio silence for years and just decide to talk for the game to not get the abandoned tag, the only thing that annoys me its, or people defend him as if its ok to keeping pushing the release another week(As if even SR7 think this is cool and ok) and demonize the people that gets frustrated about the releases, or just saying that he is lazy because the release have not come out when there are way more problems that if you just search for a few minutes, you can see that the problem its still his fault, but it has nothing to do with been lazy, he is working harder, but not smarter its what i concluded with the information that he gives from time to time, not that it really matters really, eventually the update will come out, i'm just kind of pissed from people on the discord defending the fact that its ok to just keeping pushing updates when there was a ETA and mocking people that are not happy about it, and people here that every time this happens, there is a he is lazy and worse or as bad as _*really bad developer that milks money from his patreon with no content to deliver*_, this game will never get better like this.

It is useless to write such a tirade here. It is better to send such things to him personally.

 

[Tastelesswhiskey]

 

[Deleted member 969484]

SR7 is really bad with communication and there is always delays

"Bad with communication" is a nice way of said milseading. SR7 is failing to hit the deadlines that he puts on himself.

 

[Revan 12345]

I dont think SR7 is lazy, his problem is a legacy of lack of knowledge in the inception of his game that came to bite him years later, and bad management, the guy is almost each week putting himself out there doing streams and answering questions, at least he is showing he is doing something, but if he continues to work like this, its going to be impossible for him to continue to work on this game the way its built, not because people are complaining or not, its just going to burn him out because of how many bugs one build will create.

Which comes to this, he came to discord and explained a few days ago that the problem is that whatever they try to change or add, it creates problems and they have to stop everything to fix, and now the complexity of the game just create this massive headache thats dealing with this, a few months i was datamining the game because i wanted to create a mod for it, and the code was literally what i expected from someone that never coded before, but wanted to make something simple out of, years later came to this and now he has to deal with it.

The solution its kind of simple actually, even though he tried and the programmer just bailed out of the project, he has to understand that this game its going to fall on itself if he doesnt plan to rebuild the source code from the ground up, what i would do(and do with my job as a developer when there is a need to replace a old important service thats still been used) its to develop in parallel to the current version of the game and feed the content in once the "skeleton" of the game is done and eventually, turn over to the new version, and management wise making a deliverable in 2 weeks and 1 week for testing, taking in to consideration how much can be done in the meantime, deciding on the size of the update between these weeks of development and having a close build for the next update, and of course, NEVER start teasing a new update if you arent even sure that its ready to go, people get pissed off not because there isnt a update, its more because there was a perspective of having a update, and in the day that should come the update, radio silence, just so the next day pushing for next week, people do get frustrated because its expected a product, which is, you want it or not, a fair criticism.

In conclusion, if they dont have plans to remake the code for this game, i dont think this game will have much of a lifetime, i can say for sure that looking at the code, i can see the hell that is to even touch it, so thats why i can see that he isnt lying and that he is trying, but at the end of the day, this problem its going to get way worse the more he puts content in and the tendency its for the updates to get larger times in between build releases, and i dont think even SR7 wants to deal with this, the only thing i would say its, people have the right to be mad but try to understand as well, SR7 in comparison i think its a great guy because he doesnt run from his community and get radio silence for years and just decide to talk for the game to not get the abandoned tag, the only thing that annoys me its, or people defend him as if its ok to keeping pushing the release another week(As if even SR7 think this is cool and ok) and demonize the people that gets frustrated about the releases, or just saying that he is lazy because the release have not come out when there are way more problems that if you just search for a few minutes, you can see that the problem its still his fault, but it has nothing to do with been lazy, he is working harder, but not smarter its what i concluded with the information that he gives from time to time, not that it really matters really, eventually the update will come out, i'm just kind of pissed from people on the discord defending the fact that its ok to just keeping pushing updates when there was a ETA and mocking people that are not happy about it, and people here that every time this happens, there is a he is lazy and worse or as bad as _*really bad developer that milks money from his patreon with no content to deliver*_, this game will never get better like this.

You're right. He makes himself a problem, because he doesn't want to "share the money" hire 3 more persons to help him out. I mean, realistically he doesn't need to hire someone from NA. People from Europe would gladly work for the lower paycheck.
He should focus only on drawing and hire 3 more persons to do the rest. He doesn't even need to finish the game. DC Universe has so much content that can be implemented into this game. At some point he can close the first part and start SU2.
This game could be so much more if he is ready to share the money with someone else. It could be well animated, with music and better storytelling.
He needs a screenwriter, animator and programmer.
It would be a less crunch and he would earn more money in the long run.

My only fear is that WB is going to shut down the whole thing.

 

[TheSavageGod]

"Bad with communication" is a nice way of said milseading. SR7 is failing to hit the deadlines that he puts on himself.

You know what crazy and funny is that they went from update every month to update every 2-3 month what next update every 6 month

 

[zed127]

Lmao this is becoming so predictably dumb. He basically made an additional update out of thin air to push back the release again.

 

[Danlorn]

My only fear is that WB is going to shut down the whole thing.

Nah, they already had some problems with WB years back when the game had a different name ("Injustice Unlimited"). IIRC Warner Bros just told GG to change the game's name and that was it, problem solved. SR7 mentioned they even praised his work or something like that.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

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A Change of Pace.
We had originally planned to get this update out then do a small "tune up" update to fix issues and add in content that was cut through out the year. But things don't always go to plan and we've had a lot more trouble than was expected. So we are going to combine the builds. Rather than do two turn-arounds this late in the year. Pulling back on Wonder Woman or other content isn't something we would like to do unless we absolutely had to.

Thanks for the patience guys, we will be sure to have it out before the end of this month.

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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck this prick.

 

[FriendlyBear12]

They should pause all Patreon payments, until they get their shit together. They won't but they should.

 

[ex789]

Honestly, who didn't see this coming? Did anyone really expect anything else to happen?

 

[Henshinvolt]

Does anyone know why the programmer he hired bailed on the project?

There are at least 3 people that tried to remake/rebuild the game (maybe there was 4).
The 1st one is now a successful dev on another game who didn't meet deadlines apparently and there were communication issues etc though his priority back then seemed to have been more on the Scooby game.
The 2nd is LockeKosta who was pretty active on the discord a few years ago. From what has been implied he kept making excuses on why he wasn't making progress and was fired after working on the rebuild for 2 years (he seemed to be some form of professional coder but didn't put the work in.)
The third was a local guy that wasn't active online who seemed to quit on the project less than a year into making it.

I know all this from being a part of the SU discord for the past 3 years or so.

 

[Jarendells]

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A Change of Pace.
We had originally planned to get this update out then do a small "tune up" update to fix issues and add in content that was cut through out the year. But things don't always go to plan and we've had a lot more trouble than was expected. So we are going to combine the builds. Rather than do two turn-arounds this late in the year. Pulling back on Wonder Woman or other content isn't something we would like to do unless we absolutely had to.

Thanks for the patience guys, we will be sure to have it out before the end of this month.

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A Change of Pace, What a joke SR7 releasing an update on time would be a Change of Pace.

 

[Owlman8497]

Does anyone know why the programmer he hired bailed on the project?

if there was one at all

 

[zenzaxaznez]

The latest Patreon post is a PR disaster. Sunset has failed to get the update ready within a reasonable time - what's done is done. I'm not gonna get into that. But the Patreon post, which I assume is written by Smokeshank, has to make a better attempt at calming the masses and instilling confidence.

They go from a post that claims that "the finish line is within reach" to this bare minimum notification, telling us it's delayed for possibly two more weeks. The post should have been three times longer, go full Cyberpunk 2077 with it and explain how the technical side is a complete clusterfuck and how very sorry you are. It's OK if Sunset is too busy to write a long explanation/apology, but isn't this Smokeshank's job? I remember them putting out long Patreon posts in the past, informing patrons about the dialogue bugs in Fungus, for example.

Why even bring up that you had planned for two more updates this year? The second update had yet to be announced, and I'm sure almost no one remembered the vague mention of "two more updates this year" in a Patreon post months ago.
Now they've put more pressure on themselves by revealing that this update is going to have even more content than what had already been announced. Why not just be silent about that and push those things to next year when you're having incredible trouble releasing this update as it is?

The one thing they did right was to put Wonder Woman in bold, reminding people that the most popular girl is going to be in this update. And I suppose it could have been worse, there could have been total radio silence.

Luckily for them, the people seem to be taking it well for now. I checked the comments and most are understanding, with a couple of zealous defenders pre-emptively striking down any attempts at criticism. There is however a user who simply replied to their post with "LOL". He would have never done that if they had written a longer explanation and apology.