ICSTOR will always be the winner of that award.I can't say I'm surprised at this point, the last year of updates have all had delays. Sunset is obviously sloppy and unable to hold himself to the release windows he's set for himself. Then when the updates do come, it's just filled with a bunch of filler content like leash scenes that are identical for every single character.
Between sunset and wildeer, i'm not sure which "creator" i'm following has more patreons getting scammed
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I dont think he is gonna add any new costumes to ww tbh
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We don't need more costumes for WW.We need her naked.
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I still don't understand how the code hasn't been refactored to minimize side affects at this point. I would understand if Sunset was pushing out new features to expand the scope of the game but he's not. It's a unity game, it's written in an object-oriented language. After a half dozen years I just can't wrap my head around the code being in such a shit state for a game that for all intents and purposes is a glorified slideshow centered around a cast of women all having the same redundant features.I can't say I'm surprised at this point, the last year of updates have all had delays. Sunset is obviously sloppy and unable to hold himself to the release windows he's set for himself. Then when the updates do come, it's just filled with a bunch of filler content like leash scenes that are identical for every single character.
Between sunset and wildeer, i'm not sure which "creator" i'm following has more patreons getting scammed
Im just imagining Sunset building a whole new class for each and every girl from the ground up rather than inheriting a "Character" base class that already has a majority of that redundancy already accounted for.
Agree with the rest of your original post.
But faithful? All the nope. 75% of the characters have a copy-paste big tits and ass body with heads swapped. Raven, Supergirl, Harley, Audrey all do not have tits almost as big as their heads.
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And now they make $17,852
I wish more creators went the NTL media route? They got 13,857 Patreons, they release on schedule everytime, planned a new game ahead. Maybe is being naive thinking that in the long term it seems more sustainable to adopt this model, because 1) Doing everything by yourself means you are more prone to burning out 2) You can't do everything efficiently, is why Car companies used to and most probably still do, to buy tires instead of producing them themselves. 3) While die hard fans will always remain when I look at those few that expanded they recouped the costs (see also Phillysgame and the developers of Wild Life)
The reason is simple. SR7 is a greedy, indolent incompetent. He does not know how to code and makes excuses to not bring in someone who does. He does not know how to fix the problems he's causing.
As long as people keep giving them money nothing will change. Why would you put in a lot of effort when you can just take it easy and get paid the same. The trend is in gaming everywhere, look at GTA, just shitting out minimum effort updates and raking in millions, why would they spend time and money making a new game?
Most people who pay into patreons pay roughly a cup of coffee or a trip to McDonald's per month, it is very, very easy to dismiss that small of a monthly loss without even thinking about it. ICSTOR managed to keep tens of thousands of dollars a month after failing to put out more than a couple of still images in over a year. Unless things really start to go to shit on a project with some big money backers it is extremely rare for a patreon to lose supporters simply because things are going slow.
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Granted, my coding knowledge is pretty limited compared to actual coders, but with the gameplay in SU isn't it more or less just a slideshow? I mean a powerpoint could be made with the art assets and get the same results. How jank does the sourcecode get with that as the goal?
To say it's just a slide show isn't entirely accurate. It's a little more complicated than that. However things getting out of hand is due to how incompetent he is. A simple task stops being simple in the hands of someone who does not know what they are doing.
And the size of the game. Every single character is drawn with separate layers that could be joined together before a scene begins. Yet he just puts all the pictures, as big-ass PNGs, making sure that soon enough no free host will allow him to distribute his ginormous executable. The fact I'm still able to get the Mac version to load is a miracle. I'm sure most Mac users believe the Mac version simply doesn't work though, with how long it takes to authenticate the app.
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So, i'll give you an example, basically, imagine like this, a normal person when creating a game like this, would create by hand each scene and calling them when its needed, which is fine when you have in scope like 10 scenes, when you have a X number, we dont do that as a programmer, what we do in these situations were there is "redundancy" when something that is really similar is created N times, we create a "blueprint" or a "factory", imagine a house, a house has one door, two windows and a garage, for example, the blueprint has that, and when you call, you can specify the particularity of those elements, the door is made with wood, the window its going to be a big block of glass etc, and when that house has run its course, which is the scene in this example, the "house" is destroyed, as it has run its course and dont have a purpose, this prevent a lot of problems, the increase in size of the game, load times, possible memory leak and most important, bugs, because if one scene works, every single one will work because they use the same principle, using the example, if you build the house once, and it stands, the door works, you can open the window, basically every single one will work, if you try to create a dog house for example in a different house, but wanting to maintain that structure, you can, but this is another programming concept that isnt worth it to get in to it.
And there are other good practices, PNG case its basically debatable, in a sense of what are your priorities in the game, PNG its a high resolution type of image file, i could recommend SVG or BMP that are way easier on the file size and all, but you lose in quality, because of how the game is, i dont see much of advantage, hell, you can even transform the image in html and render that in the engine if you want to be that type of guy, but i'm not a specialist in image files, i just know these things because of the basics of web dev.
In concept, the game is not "complex", you can see that because he made the game and it works, but the lack of experience and good practices made the code what its and its just not possible now to stop and rework everything in a month, you can see from previous bugs that happened from time to time like certain events not triggering for people, this is a problem that people that work with development, doesnt even need to be "games", has probably encounter something similar to it, i dont want to say that i would know right now what was the problem and were to solve it, i just saw the code and gave it a look, but those problems are preventable with a few good practices when coding, but now its not as simple as, just change this that solves it, now this is not as complex as a calculator, but its basically a human being in a sense of, good part of the code is connected in some way, which would be my personal nightmare, because when there is a problem such as, event from Galatea for example not working, i would narrow down where is the problem making my job way easier, but now the scope is way bigger than it should, thats why what SR7 says for me make sense, but regardless, i dont work with the game, i'm just doing educated guesses with the information presented, for sure there are people here that way more knowledgeable in this topic that could bring better points and even better solutions than me, but for me, for me this is basically trying to pile cards in a tower were when you put one cards at the top, somewhere randomly just fall and because that one fall, another one fall, and because that one fall, well, you get the idea, one day the tower of cards are not going to be able to receive more cards because the domino effect of problems will be way to big to be even worth rebuilding.
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NTL has great games, I like the gameplay and quests a lot but I have 1 major problem. All their models looks too similar and their female genitals looks like a flesh wound. Very off putting. I would take Lewdlab's Midnight Paradise Models over NTL's any day.
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Because it would mean more money and a better reputation, not saying that it would be instantaneous, I know that my own work desperately needs better marketing and manpower but at least I can say that I don't have the capitals to even attempt it. Does he intend to make SU forever? Can he work on something else while doing this? Given the past attempts it seems not, what happens once Sunset gets bored?
There is no update yet. Lay out here, who are not too lazy to make a list. Let's see, just wondering
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I like the tier list. mostly agree with everything, but I would swap Zatana and Galatea's placement.There is no update yet. Lay out here, who are not too lazy to make a list. Let's see, just wonderingYou don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
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Most of the girls that I like already have their cell content completedThere is no update yet. Lay out here, who are not too lazy to make a list. Let's see, just wonderingYou don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
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