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Deepsea

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TL;DR: Over nearly 9 years, our team, has developed our game, SU, under a Patreon model, aiming for monthly content releases to stand out from sporadic release models. This approach, while initially successful, led to challenges like content quantity over quality and audience frustration with perceived inadequacy in updates. The major mistake was publicly setting strict deadlines, which, despite intentions to avoid being labeled as "scammers" or "milkers," attracted criticism anyway. Now, we're shifting to an internal schedule to improve content quality and reception, learning from past experiences and committed to evolving.
You know what the funniest thing is. Smoke tries to justify all of this by putting out this graph.
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That green line is their total revenue and it suddenly stops. Why? Because he turned off how much they receive a month to further hide it from patrons.
A reminder that the last proper update 2.4.45 had a total of 3 scenes, 2 of which were bugged and since then we've gotten the buggy renpy version of Themyscira and an android port that no one plays. If you had been a patron since Janurary, you have now paid $20 for essentially nothing. All of this is Smoke trying to convince you to stay a member because they still bill monthly.
 
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Fapokso

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You know what the funniest thing is. Smoke tries to justify all of this by putting out this graph.
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That green line is their total revenue and it suddenly stops. Why? Because he turned off how much they receive a month to further hide it from patrons.


A remind that the last proper update 2.4.45 had a total of 3 scenes, 2 of which were bugged and since then we've gotten the buggy renpy version of Themyscira and an android port that no one plays. If you had been a patron since Janurary, you have now paid $20 for essentially nothing. All of this is Smoke trying to convince you to stay a member because they still bill monthly.
Just noticed, anytime Summertime saga is mentioned by shank it's always filled with hatred.
Jealous that that the team does nothing and gets paid a lot is getting out lazyed and getting paid more by another dev
 

Testerguy19

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Just noticed, anytime Summertime saga is mentioned by shank it's always filled with hatred.
Jealous that that the team does nothing and gets paid a lot is getting out lazyed and getting paid more by another dev
It's among one of the biggest H games but with a bad reputation
 

noirsin7

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Did anybody here have android 92 save a before yacht event save would be great i don't know why but i can't get update so i have to uninstall 89 and install 92 so my save is gone can anyone help?
 

Erebus69

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Deepsea Thanks for posting that.


Interesting to see the per patron is only $2.19. I think that really shows the value that individuals are willing to spend for a monthly subscription model and that is a good case study for others on how to structure memberships levels
 

Jimwalrus

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Deepsea Thanks for posting that.


Interesting to see the per patron is only $2.19. I think that really shows the value that individuals are willing to spend for a monthly subscription model and that is a good case study for others on how to structure memberships levels
It's also likely that it's so low for many that they barely notice it every month and therefore don't get too upset about the absence of any updates to Summertime Saga for over a year.

We do know that historically GG got an average of just over $5 per subscriber, making it easy to work out how much they're getting, even though they have (like DarkCookie in the above graph) also turned off the income stats. Unless they make a major change to their tiers it's likely to remain roughly the same.
 
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Jimwalrus

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Hello everyone I'm new here I would like to know do you think the next update will finish the content of Themyscira Where I'm getting too far ahead
Welcome!

Personally, I think the next update for the Themyscira standalone will finish it, yes.
Whether that will then be fully rolled into the main game in its next update is somewhat harder to say.
If they don't roll it in, they'll probably do a Gotham update instead. Or something else, what do we know? ;)
 

armion82

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Welcome!

Personally, I think the next update for the Themyscira standalone will finish it, yes.
Whether that will then be fully rolled into the main game in its next update is somewhat harder to say.
If they don't roll it in, they'll probably do a Gotham update instead. Or something else, what do we know? ;)
Well,they are "working" on Themyscira for 2 full years.
Still doubt we will see all amazons with all scenes done.
 

slowpersun

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And one of those fans would be you mindlessly becoming the yes man and white knighting devs for the last 8 to 9 years of slow development for gaming? Living where the Berne convention doesn't matter shit so get your thick headed skull outta here.
Bitch, don't tell me what to do.

And for the record, it's also a management sex sim. No one fully said it was a total visual novel.
Except the devs literally just did, but OK...
 
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Dickhead8888

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Im starting to believe all these patron subs still there because they forgot about these 2 years ago and dont know they still getting billed $20 a month.
No one with a sane mind would pay $2 a year for this.
 
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Jimwalrus

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how do i get Lex superpowers, outfits and accessory?
Superpowers don't exist for Lex in the game. They were planned, but I think the devs abandoned the idea years ago.
The 'billionaire' suit should be available after unlocking Lexcorp HQ (also, the old purple jumpsuit is no longer available, only the initial green one).
The accessories are available to purchase from Tala at her workshop, once suitably upgraded and she's done the research.
 

Krieger Season 1-6

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I happened to come across this video. Someone made a video documenting Gunsmoke games

Well maybe not gunsmoke, but if I hadn't corrected myself, would it have made any difference?
 
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SoulFoZoid

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I happened to come across this video. Someone made a video documenting Gunsmoke games

Well maybe not gunsmoke, but if I hadn't corrected myself, would it have made any difference?
You're telling me Sunset is using volunteers to make the game for him and involved in discord drama?

There are a lot of differences and you can't compare being lazy to a game dev abusing his powers and involving minors.

No there is a clear differences and here is my video response.

 
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Superpowers don't exist for Lex in the game. They were planned, but I think the devs abandoned the idea years ago.
The 'billionaire' suit should be available after unlocking Lexcorp HQ (also, the old purple jumpsuit is no longer available, only the initial green one).
The accessories are available to purchase from Tala at her workshop, once suitably upgraded and she's done the research.
thanks
 
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