BrotherJoker

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Well Sept was a scheduled release, so 2 months later would have been Nov. We provided the same amount of SU content, and some little bonus. Some people don't see that.



SU is fun, but it's a grind as well. We need to expand as a studio and get to use what we learned.
Vixen update: Wasn't finished. It was supposed to focus on Vixen and half of her content was missing. Hell, SR7 was working on Supergirl instead of Vixen on stream before it hit. Sure, there was some stuff involving some other characters but it wasn't focused on the damn character it was supposed to be about.

September: Was broken. Parts of it are still broken. Oh, and you didn't finish Galatea cell content so not only was it broken but it was half-assed finished. Instead, we got broken Supergirl content that needed to be fixed. Some half-assed Galatea content that's supposed to be fixed but isn't, and as far I can tell you aren't going back to finish Galatea's cell content anytime soon. Instead, we got some story stuff involving Maxima. One sex scene with her, and some scenes with random characters who are just there.

Halloween: It was a nice surprise but it wasn't finished. Again. Half of it's still missing.

That's the issue a lot of people have. After Batgirl you guys seemed to have stopped finishing what you're supposed to be focusing on. Vixen wasn't finished and not only was it not finished, but it was also delayed a week. You finished Supergirl's part of her update but not Galatea. Then you released this and it's half-assed as well. It's a couple of story scenes, some dancing, and some stuff with Azula in the library. It's a tech demo that you're charging people to play.

I hate to break it to you but most people don't care about the original project: do not steal, or BoB2. They want you to focus on SU so they're going to get pissed off when you release broken updates. Or a new project without letting people know that it's a new project. If you'd straight off the bat said that you were going to release something in December which isn't related to SU people probably wouldn't be mad. Instead, they thought Fire and Ice were coming as a surprise for Christmas.
 

prew

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Has someone a full save for Slot 2 or Slot 3? My saves are on Slot 1 and i don't really want to overwrite it.
 

BrotherJoker

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The fact they're charging for it is the shitty part. It's barebones as fuck. If they'd released it as a free demo to wet people's appetites after saying straight out that they were going to be releasing something that wasn't SU related it would have gone down better. It doesn't help that a lot of the stuff that is in it seems to have been from the bonus packs that were already released over the past year.
 

Gunsmoke Games

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Vixen update: Wasn't finished. It was supposed to focus on Vixen and half of her content was missing. Hell, SR7 was working on Supergirl instead of Vixen on stream before it hit. Sure, there was some stuff involving some other characters but it wasn't focused on the damn character it was supposed to be about.

September: Was broken. Parts of it are still broken. Oh, and you didn't finish Galatea cell content so not only was it broken but it was half-assed finished. Instead, we got broken Supergirl content that needed to be fixed. Some half-assed Galatea content that's supposed to be fixed but isn't, and as far I can tell you aren't going back to finish Galatea's cell content anytime soon. Instead, we got some story stuff involving Maxima. One sex scene with her, and some scenes with random characters who are just there.

Halloween: It was a nice surprise but it wasn't finished. Again. Half of it's still missing.

That's the issue a lot of people have. After Batgirl you guys seemed to have stopped finishing what you're supposed to be focusing on. Vixen wasn't finished and not only was it not finished, but it was also delayed a week. You finished Supergirl's part of her update but not Galatea. Then you released this and it's half-assed as well. It's a couple of story scenes, some dancing, and some stuff with Azula in the library. It's a tech demo that you're charging people to play.

I hate to break it to you but most people don't care about the original project: do not steal, or BoB2. They want you to focus on SU so they're going to get pissed off when you release broken updates. Or a new project without letting people know that it's a new project. If you'd straight off the bat said that you were going to release something in December which isn't related to SU people probably wouldn't be mad. Instead, they thought Fire and Ice were coming as a surprise for Christmas.
You're the only complaint we have had to deal with on both Patreon and F95. Sure there are concerns about time management, which are warrented. As for updates, you do realize that we're one of the only top devs that have updated our game 2x and released a side project all in 4 months. Not to mention we fired our programmer 2 months into development of BoB2 and SR7 made this game starting in December! I'm sorry you don't think we are living up to our potential, but honestly 2 SU updates, a new game all in the span of 4 months is damn impressive by ONE GUY! Thanks for taking the time to issue your concerns on Patreon and then on here.
 

Grayking666

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You're the only complaint we have had to deal with on both Patreon and F95. Sure there are concerns about time management, which are warrented. As for updates, you do realize that we're one of the only top devs that have updated our game 2x and released a side project all in 4 months. Not to mention we fired our programmer 2 months into development of BoB2 and SR7 made this game starting in December! I'm sorry you don't think we are living up to our potential, but honestly 2 SU updates, a new game all in the span of 4 months is damn impressive by ONE GUY! Thanks for taking the time to issue your concerns on Patreon and then on here.
Forgive them for they're know not what they speak of. Yes even I as a Gunsmokegames fanboy can say, "Hey I have issues with some of the directions you've taken/how I personally wanted things to go." (Personally I wanted all the GS and Bordello scenes done with so we can move on to like making the heroines conciously and willingly do pornos/nude calendars!) But I will say what you provide is still in the top tier for me. Im very excited for BoB2 and I know you need something slightly different to do since SU is going to take at least 3-5(?) more years.

You guys do really good work and blah blah blah *insert ego stroking statement here*. Thanks for all the mammories and memories
 
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BrotherJoker

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You're the only complaint we have had to deal with on both Patreon and F95. Sure there are concerns about time management, which are warrented.
Considering most of the updates past Batgirl has added a bunch of random stuff instead of focusing on what they were supposed to because SR got bored? Yeah, I'd say time management was a problem. Adding Ravager and Jinx made sense since Vixen was the sole focus of that update but the Vixen stuff should have been finished before he started working on Supergirl. Plus I'm still wondering why he decided to add those two instead of finished Shiva. Adding Maxima, a bunch of story scenes, one sex scene, two random npc's, two Slade scenes, instead of finishing Galatea who should have been the secondary focus of the Supergirl update? It's definitely a problem.

The Halloween update was nice but it wasn't finished, and it's going to be finished two months after it's released? If it is finished. I hate to say it but considering the current track record, I'm really doubting it will be.
 

Gunsmoke Games

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Considering most of the updates past Batgirl has added a bunch of random stuff instead of focusing on what they were supposed to because SR got bored? Yeah, I'd say time management was a problem. Adding Ravager and Jinx made sense since Vixen was the sole focus of that update but the Vixen stuff should have been finished before he started working on Supergirl. Plus I'm still wondering why he decided to add those two instead of finished Shiva. Adding Maxima, a bunch of story scenes, one sex scene, two random npc's, two Slade scenes, instead of finishing Galatea who should have been the secondary focus of the Supergirl update? It's definitely a problem.

The Halloween update was nice but it wasn't finished, and it's going to be finished two months after it's released? If it is finished. I hate to say it but considering the current track record, I'm really doubting it will be.
You must realize that game development isn't like writing a story or comic book. Due to having to program everything in. Sometimes one image can take a considerable amount of time to implement. So then add the fact that our fans expect us to have scheduled releases. This means you have to balance hard to implement content, with easy content during a two month cycle.

You want us to do something you think is easy, yet is impossible to do under the constraints you don't see or are affected by. Every update we strive to put in the absolute most amount of content possible. That means getting this close to completion, and adding in more that will later be competed.
 

Gunsmoke Games

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As long as BoB 2 didin't reduce SU updates from 6 to 4-5 or just 3 in 2020,I am happy with more Korra.
No the Halloween event and BoB2 are in the exact same position. The core framework is there and it just needs to be flushed out. This is why we did this, as there wouldn't be another opportunity till much later on.
 

armion82

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No the Halloween event and BoB2 are in the exact same position. The core framework is there and it just needs to be flushed out. This is why we did this, as there wouldn't be another opportunity till much later on.
I hope the new guy/is it a guy btw?maybe we are talking about a girl/ that will work with you,will integrate fast in the team and we will see the rebuild ready in next 4-5 months.
 

Gunsmoke Games

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I hope the new guy/is it a guy btw?maybe we are talking about a girl/ that will work with you,will integrate fast in the team and we will see the rebuild ready in next 4-5 months.
It is a guy and local to us! He has the old project files, and we will make a statement regarding the rebuild and the direction early in the new year. Right now he doesn't officially start till Jan. There will be some changes to GG in 2020 as well. We learned a lot by doing BoB2 and are excited to start moving in those directions!
 

Zonobert

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Gunsmoke Games Are you set up finishing BoB2 by the end of the first quarter 2020? I'm not gonna tell you how to do business, but it would definitely make me happy to see it become a longer-term project.
 

Gunsmoke Games

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Gunsmoke Games Are you set up finishing BoB2 by the end of the first quarter 2020? I'm not gonna tell you how to do business, but it would definitely make me happy to see it become a longer-term project.
No we will not juggle two long term projects. SU will be the main project and will be updated regularly as we have done for 4.5 years. BoB2 will be finished (Newgrounds, Android, Patreon exclusive) by the end of the first quarter.
 

armion82

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No we will not juggle two long term projects. SU will be the main project and will be updated regularly as we have done for 4.5 years. BoB2 will be finished (Newgrounds, Android, Patreon exclusive) by the end of the first quarter.
Good plan.We saw how the things go for the worst with so many devs trying to do 2 games at the same time/with the only positive example Mr.Dots/.Not to mention you always can make Bend or Break 3 in next years:)
 
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