Master of Puppets

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Abandoning the character completion updates is probably a good idea. It sounded nice, but it was pretty obvious that it was too much for one update, and that was with characters who had some progress already. I can't even imagine how bad it would turn out if you tried to cram an entire girl who has no content like Huntress or Zatanna into one update cycle.
 

BrotherJoker

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You wanted it, so we’re giving it to you!
That’s right we are going to begin to focus on older characters. This means your favorite girls (WW,Huntress, Black Canary, Zatana, etc…) will begin to start getting content in 2020. New girls will still be added (because you know us, and we will add more), it just means the majority of content you will get this year will be of old characters.

Completion Updates Are Gone


No more promise of a completed character, during a cycle. Completion updates put us in a very tight box, and it resulted in lots of stress and buggy builds. So we are doing away with those updates. Instead you will get a sprinkling of content for several characters, that will include sex! We’re hoping this means higher quality builds, with less bugs.

No Formal Roadmaps!


That’s right, we will not be saying who and where content will be focused month to month. So in order for you to get an understanding of who is being worked on you will have to pay attention to Streams, Discord, Twitter, and Patreon.

Roadmap
February: Halloween, plus clean up
April: Old character focus begins!

Overall 2020

June/July: Gunsmoke Games website
This will be the main area for you to get your Gunsmoke Games content! Fully incorporating Patreon API, and a traditional forum where you can have discussions outside the realms of our discord.

Throughout 2020 The beginning stages of OC work, leading to an eventual release on Steam.

SU on Android

Bend or Break
Finishing this project, and releasing on Newgrounds, Android, and exclusive Patreon content
I don't know why but this feels like a massive step backward's to how the game used to be updated before you actually applied some structure. So instead of actually focusing on finishing something SR7, who already seems to really suck on focusing on things for longer than a couple of days, is just going to work on whatever? Oh, and instead of telling people what to look forward to, they have to guess? That's great. Oh, and the only thing actually getting finished apparently is the Halloween event. Even though you left a bunch of stuff unfinished including a couple of characters. I mean for fuck sakes at least finish Galatea. She should have been completed alongside Supergirl.

Basically this entire release amounts to "We're going to do whatever the fuck we want and hopefully it doesn't blow up in our face."
 

SkeithX7

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Basically this entire release amounts to "We're going to do whatever the fuck we want and hopefully it doesn't blow up in our face."
Spoilers; it blows up in their face.

This is not some game getting a publisher to fund for the majority of it's time in development with a set deadline, it's a crowdfunded game and if it can't deliver on it's own deadlines and having to resort to "EvEnTuAlLy", that's a red flag especially when even triple AAA games do this ((anybody even remember Anthem??))

It's unfortunate really that it's come to this.

This is a SMALL TEAM, and they're branching off working on 3 projects instead of putting all effort into 1.

Yeah yeah, burnout is a thing but I only have to wonder when bUrNouT is going to happen when having to work on 3 projects in the same timeframe.

Yeah, finish BoB2 in the first quarter of 2020, which from my guess is either Mar / Apr release and considering the timeline for the Old character focus begins! is slated for that release timeframe in Apr, we're getting screwed on actual substantial content for SU in favor for an unrelated progress into another game (( BoB2 )) for the beginning of 2020 since the Feb timeframe is for the Halloween + Cleanup.......... which should've, and very sensibly, been done waaaay the fuck back in November / December at the least.... but we got BoB2! Enjoy that product instead of you know........ starting off 2020 with actually focusing on old characters

But that's under the assumption BoB2 releases with no issues but it's going to come with it's own bugs to fix which means more time spent away from SU as a whole to fix to cater to another audience for that content ((which wasn't even asked for because people's money are being spent on the effort to create a whole other sideproject game when the main game that's being funded in the first place isn't even finished))

Yeah, feeling stressed is part of the job but people SHOULD expect content, from a product they supported, on a deadline, not a fucking guesstimate to when the bum fuck nowhere. Not to mention, there isn't a guarantee this change would even result in a HiGhEr QuAlIty bUiLD w LeSS bUgS

Hell, there could even be MORE sideprojects in the future that takeaway time spent into SU.

But if the people want to keep funding these people to diverge focus into other products, hey, it is what it is. Just don't come crying and complaining how it's taking forever for an update to happen because these people taking their time going into other sideprojects
 

Ouryuken

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Basically this entire release amounts to "We're going to do whatever the fuck we want and hopefully it doesn't blow up in our face."
Its pretty obvious that the "its hard to finish a character and that causes buggy builds" is just an excuse to be able to throw less content per build, because there were buggy builds before having structure, during and you can bet your ass there will be tons of bugs afterwards as well

I still find it funny how the halloween event scenes (though good) are mentioned twice (its mentioned as separate content for each character participating on each scene, even if its, obviously, a single threesome scene) in the notes to make it seem like its more content than there really is
 

lazyman54321

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Just a reminder guys this game is free, so stop bitchin' about lack of content in future updates on this forum. Join the patron and go complain there if its a concern. The quality of the game is great and the game has taken years already whats more time compared to this?
 

Ouryuken

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Just a reminder guys this game is free, so stop bitchin' about lack of content in future updates on this forum. Join the patron and go complain there if its a concern
Just a reminder that this is a forum and everyone has the right to say whatever they want as long as they abide by the rules of the site and stay on topic (which is, talking about the game and its devs), if you dont like it, join the patreon and stay there and on their discord so you can read only praising and compliments
 

Kylar Stern

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Just a reminder that this is a forum and everyone has the right to say whatever they want as long as they abide by the rules of the site and stay on topic (which is, talking about the game and its devs), if you dont like it, join the patreon and stay there and on their discord so you can read only praising and compliments
I'm totally Switzerland here, but seriously dude. About 75% of F95 forums is people complaining about "lazy devs", "milking", and "not enough content". Nobody is ever satisfied on here, not even when games reach completion. The only time I've ever really seen a forum close to completely satisfied is Sanguine Rose. And of course the Patreon/Discord supporters are going to give tons of praise, because they like the game so much they donate money. Otherwise they wouldn't donate.

Of course there are problems with every game here. However that's because the majority of these people have these things called "lives, obligations, and other jobs". There is no feasable way for them to spend 100% of their time on the game. Now I'm not saying be nice, sunshine and rainbows only. That's like asking for world peace and end to all strife. I'm simply saying step back and look at life objectively instead of "now Now NOW. I WANT IT NOW! I MATTER!!!". Which, let's be honest you're not 100%, but you're still a large Johnny Raincloud/Negative Nancy. :) Have a nice day though.
 

Abysssnake

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I'm totally Switzerland here, but seriously dude. About 75% of F95 forums is people complaining about "lazy devs", "milking", and "not enough content". Nobody is ever satisfied on here, not even when games reach completion. The only time I've ever really seen a forum close to completely satisfied is Sanguine Rose. And of course the Patreon/Discord supporters are going to give tons of praise, because they like the game so much they donate money. Otherwise they wouldn't donate.

Of course there are problems with every game here. However that's because the majority of these people have these things called "lives, obligations, and other jobs". There is no feasable way for them to spend 100% of their time on the game. Now I'm not saying be nice, sunshine and rainbows only. That's like asking for world peace and end to all strife. I'm simply saying step back and look at life objectively instead of "now Now NOW. I WANT IT NOW! I MATTER!!!". Which, let's be honest you're not 100%, but you're still a large Johnny Raincloud/Negative Nancy. :) Have a nice day though.
true words! more understanding in this world would be good! this hating and crying is really disgusting. I feel sorry for such people.
 

Gunsmoke Games

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true words! more understanding in this world would be good! this hating and crying is really disgusting. I feel sorry for such people.
We don't listen unless they have actual constructive criticism. As large as we are, we get a hate. It's just the way it is. We could finish SU and do everything everyone wanted and there would be people still complaining. People said we were "milking" when we made $1000, it won't change. But a simple tip, if you want us to listen and to take you seriously please have some good constructive criticism. As for our discord and Patreon, people are right they are a bubble. That is why we come here, so we don't live in that bubble.
 

lazyman54321

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We don't listen unless they have actual constructive criticism. As large as we are, we get a hate. It's just the way it is. We could finish SU and do everything everyone wanted and there would be people still complaining. People said we were "milking" when we made $1000, it won't change. But a simple tip, if you want us to listen and to take you seriously please have some good constructive criticism. As for our discord and Patreon, people are right they are a bubble. That is why we come here, so we don't live in that bubble.
all i want is wonder woman please
 

billybeer

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I hope you don't get offended but i must ask. Are you gay?
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Nope. Straight as an arrow. I just prefer characters to look like what they're based off of. See Anaxus' work as an example.
As I said, GSG nails the faces almost as good as the originals (difficult to do), but the generic big tits and ass most of them share kind of takes away from it all.
But that's just my two cents.
 
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Nope. Straight as an arrow. I just prefer characters to look like what they're based off of. See Anaxus' work as an example.
As I said, GSG nails the faces almost as good as the originals (difficult to do), but the generic big tits and ass most of them share kind of takes away from it all.
But that's just my two cents.
Anaxus has some of the most bland works out there. id rather see stylized characters with stylized proportions over them having real ones.
But that's just my two cents.
 
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ChefGoldblum

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So what am I missing that yall didn't skip a cycle? Update came out in October/Halloween. Alright since I have at least one brain cell 2 month cycle should be December/New Years. Nothing. January gets apparently nothing. So the end of February 4 months after halloween which is just going to be "cleanup".

"Nope BoB2 won't take away from SU at all."
Loving.
Every.
Laugh.
 
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