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What irks me the most is how some characters have been released a long time ago and are still incomplete. One of the clearest examples being wonderwoman and catwoman private room scenes. I'm really not a fan of sharing or whoring the women, but many of them are lacking scenes in the bordello, especially in the exhibition rooms.

I haven't even tried to access the latest bit of content (which I believe is centered around some cosplayers?) cause the selling point of the game is getting action with established character, not lookalikes.

The themyscira event was okay-ish but felt frustrating for similar reasons. Some characters are woefully incomplete (like library girl and the one in the "temple(?)"), while it also features some characters that don't have the whole expected set of poses and actions.

Also wonderwoman is part of it, and everything with her is and feels, again, very underwhelming. The gotham event has similar issues with some characters, like the two-face henchwomen along with the penguin groupies.

Many times these "incomplete releases" get frustrating. Some of them do indeed get completed later, but many others never do, like the ones I mentioned before.

I feel many people would prefer having more actions with the characters that are already established. Maybe group stuff and odd pairings, abusing the premise of them all being under mind control.

Supergirl + Batgirl + Hawkgirl + Lex foursome would be awesome as a suggestion, especially if it's a repeatable action in the base. It'd also be something that wouldn't necessitate a whole new event to trigger, just justify it as Lex wanting to flex his dominance over the women.

Some of the characters never truly give in to Lex at this point in time, like WonderWoman and Hawkgirl. Supergirl as well, kinda? Maybe having more content with them that could erode more of their iron will while they're conscious instead of mindless?
Thank you for this Ka1tzer, I do understand your frustrations with incomplete content, and I agree some areas are woefully incomplete. We are going to fill out more of Themyscira later this year (I think it's after this next update). But, for every one of your preferences we get just as many others. SR7 is bombarded with "add this character"regularly, and there is a large contingent of our patrons who like the new characters.

As for old content in the older areas, a big reason they get left unfinished (outside design problems) as the asset implementation environment. SR7 doesn't want to touch those areas in fear of breaking the whole thing. But with our move to Ren'py coming later this year it should be easier.

Stupid question...are we getting an update at the end of this month or the month after July
We're slated for August at this point. We're on schedule but it's still extremely early.

I Agree SO hard on everything you said and I feel the exact same way honestly. Although I do feel like they intentionally don't progress wonder woman's story too much because they know she's a fan favorite, so they keep us waiting, that's my theory at least. As far as I remember, doesn't wonder woman have an option for nicknames, but only in the game files? That's been in there for YEARS. Like c'mon! A corrupted wonder woman would be the most satisfying thing in the world.
BootLicking Appreciator I have answered some of the criticisms above. But I do want to touch on one of your statements to help build the narrative to be more inline with what we think. For us to intentionally not fill out a character, makes zero financial sense. The influx we get from a Raven, and or WW update is massive. Plus we keep those Patrons around for over 6 months.

The real reason WW isn't done in the main game is two fold. SR7 is tired of WW and he has a right to be. It's one of his most drawn characters. But also WW in the main portion of the game is in a difficult and risky spot to add assets to. I feel with our move to Ren'py the second part will be removed. Then we can focus on doing her content in small pieces to break up the grind.
 
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BootLicking Appreciator I have answered some of the criticisms above. But I do want to touch on one of your statements to help build the narrative to be more inline with what we think. For us to intentionally not fill out a character, makes zero financial sense. The influx we get from a Raven, and or WW update is massive. Plus we keep those Patrons around for over 6 months.

The real reason WW isn't done in the main game is two fold. SR7 is tired of WW and he has a right to be. It's one of his most drawn characters. But also WW in the main portion of the game is in a difficult and risky spot to add assets to. I feel with our move to Ren'py the second part will be removed. Then we can focus on doing her content in small pieces to break up the grind.
That makes sense, I appreciate your honesty, seriously. I actually really enjoy this game but I wouldn't like to force you guys to do any character in particular, I just adore wonder woman basically. And yeah, I know it's risky, last time I played SU (the normal unity one) her lasso scene was bugged and basically she had invisible tits xd. I'd much rather have something drawn with passion than just out of forced necessity but that's just me. And yeah some people were hating on WW and the other Amazonians bodies but I adore them lol, that's my opinion, thank you for the reply!!
 
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Thank you for this Ka1tzer, I do understand your frustrations with incomplete content, and I agree some areas are woefully incomplete. We are going to fill out more of Themyscira later this year (I think it's after this next update). But, for every one of your preferences we get just as many others. SR7 is bombarded with "add this character"regularly, and there is a large contingent of our patrons who like the new characters.

As for old content in the older areas, a big reason they get left unfinished (outside design problems) as the asset implementation environment. SR7 doesn't want to touch those areas in fear of breaking the whole thing. But with our move to Ren'py coming later this year it should be easier.



We're slated for August at this point. We're on schedule but it's still extremely early.



BootLicking Appreciator I have answered some of the criticisms above. But I do want to touch on one of your statements to help build the narrative to be more inline with what we think. For us to intentionally not fill out a character, makes zero financial sense. The influx we get from a Raven, and or WW update is massive. Plus we keep those Patrons around for over 6 months.

The real reason WW isn't done in the main game is two fold. SR7 is tired of WW and he has a right to be. It's one of his most drawn characters. But also WW in the main portion of the game is in a difficult and risky spot to add assets to. I feel with our move to Ren'py the second part will be removed. Then we can focus on doing her content in small pieces to break up the grind.
Keep it 100 with me Chief...is this "august" update going to be big or just the gotham event cause the last the S.U update was around christmas from last year,
 

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So has there been anything new since the last standalone Gotham event update (the one you get to fuck both Batgirl and Supergirl) ?
 

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Hey so i just sent WonderWoman to Themescyra where where doesnt seem to be ANY content except find "special attire" which isnt anywhere. is there any way to send her back to her cell or is she stuck till the GG decides to update this?
Thanks in advance.
 
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Hey so i just sent WonderWoman to Themescyra where where doesnt seem to be ANY content except find "special attire" which isnt anywhere. is there any way to send her back to her cell or is she stuck till the GG decides to update this?
Thanks in advance.
You need to talk to Pallas a few times, her workshop is on the right of the map.
 

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Keep it 100 with me Chief...is this "august" update going to be big or just the gotham event cause the last the S.U update was around christmas from last year,
Not entirely sure what you're asking. "Big" in this thread to some would mean we need to produce more content than all of SU x2 in 24 hrs.

We're not aiming for size (sorry to all those that just read the change log and complain), we're aiming for quality. We want someone who supported for the 4 months, or someone who just came in to find value. But also understand that ambitious updates like this one will not be a regular thing.
 

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I used to watch and follow the streams as much as I could and I hope the streams would come back because it was a fun way to communicate and ask questions from SR7.

With that being said, I want to point out things related to the streams.

1. SR7 drew a leash scene for Lana Lang but after all this time it didn't make it to the game, can you guys please explain what happend? Here is a picture of it (the first one) down below incase you forgot about it. (It bugs me because it was a really nice picture.)

2. As you can see in the second picture, SR7 drew a leash scene for Hippolyta. I seemed to me that the idea was scrapped and we got the chain (is this the correct name for it?) scenes instead. Although it was a good idea, I think it could be handled better. As you can see in the third picture, there is little to no difference outside of the head and skin color. (The picture is supposed to be a joke don't take it seriously but, I think it proves my point better than me explaining only with words.) Although correct me if I'm wrong I remember that SR7 talked about this set of pictures in one of his streams and said the following "I wasn't going to drew a different picture for all of Amazons because it was time-consuming" which I kind of agree with him but I think it could be done better. Again correct me if I'm wrong but I remember SR7 said that there are 3 type of Amazons in Themyscira.

1. The ones that don't like Lex and don't want him there.

2. The ones that are indifferent and couldn't care less about him.

3. The ones that are in support of Lex being there.

With that said I think you could do this instead in the following.

Note: This is only a suggestion, I'm not saying that you have to do this I'm just trying to give a constructive criticism to you.

Since we have three type of Amazons that I mentioned above, I think it would be better to have three types of "chain" scenes for Amazons according to their behavior towards Lex.

I hope you find my comment on this matter beneficial.

P.S. Sorry for my English, it's not my first language.
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Can someone please give me a save file I just skimmed through what felt like a college essay from the dev trying to look for ir.
 
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Thank you!! for some odd reason my map is cut off so only a corner of the building is visible. Follow up question, anyone have a list of all the vault scenes so i can figure out which im missing.
Oh that's because your picture is set to smaller, when you open the game next time, it's gonna let you pick your graphics and also the size of your screen, go for 1080x1920 which is at the top. But idk about your second question sorry ;-;
 

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Does the full safe in the profile we know or anything because I still see some things locked or not appearing somebody got 100% safe everything unlocked ?
 

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I used to watch and follow the streams as much as I could and I hope the streams would come back because it was a fun way to communicate and ask questions from SR7.

With that being said, I want to point out things related to the streams.
We're planning on coming back to them, just won't be a weekly event.

1. SR7 drew a leash scene for Lana Lang but after all this time it didn't make it to the game, can you guys please explain what happend? Here is a picture of it (the first one) down below incase you forgot about it. (It bugs me because it was a really nice picture.)
We have a lot of built up images over time, hard to say if this was scrapped or just in the pile to go in later. In a two month cycle lots of stuff just sits and builds up.

2. As you can see in the second picture, SR7 drew a leash scene for Hippolyta. I seemed to me that the idea was scrapped and we got the chain (is this the correct name for it?) scenes instead. Although it was a good idea, I think it could be handled better. As you can see in the third picture, there is little to no difference outside of the head and skin color. (The picture is supposed to be a joke don't take it seriously but, I think it proves my point better than me explaining only with words.) Although correct me if I'm wrong I remember that SR7 talked about this set of pictures in one of his streams and said the following "I wasn't going to drew a different picture for all of Amazons because it was time-consuming" which I kind of agree with him but I think it could be done better. Again correct me if I'm wrong but I remember SR7 said that there are 3 type of Amazons in Themyscira.
Just one of those images can take upwards of 8 hours of work. People will think it's just a copy and paste situation and sure there is some elements of that. I'm just amazed that someone took the time to copy and paste images to prove a point that copy and pasting is lazy. Whoever made that image should have drawn each amazon themselves, then we could really get an A-B comparison :p .

1. The ones that don't like Lex and don't want him there.

2. The ones that are indifferent and couldn't care less about him.

3. The ones that are in support of Lex being there.

With that said I think you could do this instead in the following.

Note: This is only a suggestion, I'm not saying that you have to do this I'm just trying to give a constructive criticism to you.

Since we have three type of Amazons that I mentioned above, I think it would be better to have three types of "chain" scenes for Amazons according to their behavior towards Lex.

I hope you find my comment on this matter beneficial.

Hindsight is great, and we look and take things into consideration all the time. However what you're asking would add more time to an already time constrained situation. We were looking for time savings, not adding more time. Plus we use the premise of decision making that is based on how impactful a decision is, and the effort to execute that decision. High impact low effort decisions are automatically taken (see the current amazon designs), High impact and high effort need to be reviewed (drawing each amazon individually). I think your suggestion falls in the High impact and medium effort range. So it will lose out to the method SR7 chose. I hope that can help you understand the decision making.
 
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This one is free again, so don't be fucking weird because it's on Patreon. And you can also become a free member, so again don't be a weird pirate and dislike free shit.

Sorry to bother you guys, but just a random question here. Any plans for more Blackfire and Starfire stuff? I find their dynamic interesting and kinda hot. Maybe its the love-hate relationship they got but it just works with those two being forced to be with Lex. Also Harley Quinn and her dimensional counterpart should get more time. That would be neat.
 
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Gunsmoke Games (every post really) said:
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You make a slideshow CYOA with variables. Any and all excuses about delays are bullshit and have been for a decade. You and every PR person have endlessly lied and misled again and again and again; the reddit AMA guy you claim to have fired was only a symptom.

If you expect people to trust you enough to give you money, the point that was still possible was passed years ago. I have no idea what you think you're accomplishing posting here.
 
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